Why are Indians not more outspoken more about racism in India?

[Kirran]

I think that Beethoven's 'Fate' is an ultimate design with sound waves .. and surely of divine inspiration.

I have no prejudice, however, and I have very wide choice in music, including folk (150 GB of personal music collection). But the particular urban folk, that you extol, somehow does not touch me. But as I said "Time will decide".

To each their own - but you get sayak's point about the subjectivity of personal preferences.

By the time I was born the Samaj was ageing. By the time I grew up it was in intensive care. From what I have read there is not much metaphysical difference but it was due to personality clashes.

I am not an expert on Brahmoism. The golden era of Brahmoism was between 1900 and 1950 or so .. far before I was born

I have attended few marriage, death (sradhha) ceremonies carried out the Brahmo way .. some Sunday masses when I was a kid (are there Sunday masses now .. I honestly do not know)

According to 2001 census there are no more than 180 Brahmos in India .. there are around 2,000 Brahmos in Calcutta or less.

namaste

amani_bhava

Apparently lots of people are members of a Brahmo Samaj group without putting "Brahmo" on the census. So apparently outside the Adi Dharm/Adi Brahmo Samaj there are about 20,000, then within the Adi Dharm there's like 8 million.

There was Keshab Chandra Sen's New Dispensation stuff (about Jesus) and then he became a devotee of Sri Ramakrishna and I think quite a few Brahmos did also, including many who would later become the foremost disciples of Ramakrishna, like Swami Vivekananda, Swami Brahmananda and Swami Ramakrishnananda.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

You know the way this thread began I was not sure whether or not this discussion ought to have been brought up but now I am glad we are having a discussion.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Why just racism and the cast system (which is over 3000 years old and ever so slowly going away)...what about sexism and the treatment of women in India, why was that not mentioned?

Why breast cancer and not colon cancer I mean people advocate a cure for one and some for the other?

I talk about racism because it is not discussed. In my opinion people want to talk more about other subjects other than racism. Again holding a mirror up for other people and then looking is not an easy task.

 

[Wu Wei]

Why breast cancer and not colon cancer I mean people advocate a cure for one and some for the other?

I talk about racism because it is not discussed. In my opinion people want to talk more about other subjects other than racism. Again holding a mirror up for other people and then looking is not an easy task.

Thank you for an answer, but I really do not wish to rehash this. Please refer to post #107, #110, #111, #112 and that is all I have to say...

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Thank you for an answer, but I really do not wish to rehash this. Please refer to post #107, #110, #111, #112 and that is all I have to say...

After what has transpired in this thread and others no thanks

 

[Epic Beard Man]

For all y'all's info - here's Kendrick Lamar's single 'Humble', one of the top tracks supporting the album 'Damn', which got the Pullitzer. This is the radio edit (i.e. no swear words!)

BTW he is from Compton like me!

 

[Kirran]

BTW he is from Compton like me!

Far out!

But that doesn't mean we can give you a Pulitzer

 

[Amani_Bhava]

I have a query because I do not know about the West and its popular culture (my idea of popular culture more or less ends at Dire Straits, Bee Gees, Clapton and Springsteen)

It is an innocent and honest question. Do not over react.

A rap singer got a Pullitzer for an album where 11 out of 14 songs contain obscenities ..

Now though I am old fashioned, I do not object to obscenities per se (I loved Goodfellas which used F word 300 times .. Reservoir Dogs, The Departed, Scarface etc which used the F word hundreds of times)

But addressing women by the B word (female dog) .. as a common practice ..

is that not objectionable to the uber politically correct crowd (like those who wrote posts # 141 # 205) who find gender disparity when a shopkeeper shouts at a female shop assistant or when a group discusses a project ignoring inputs from a member of the fairer sex (both in India!!)

namaste

amani_bhava

 

[Kirran]

I have a query because I do not know about the West and its popular culture (my idea of popular culture more or less ends at Dire Straits, Bee Gees, Clapton and Springsteen)

It is an innocent and honest question. Do not over react.

A rap singer got a Pullitzer for an album where 11 out of 14 songs contain obscenities ..

Now though I am old fashioned, I do not object to obscenities per se (I loved Goodfellas which used F word 300 times .. Reservoir Dogs, The Departed, Scarface etc which used the F word hundreds of times)

But addressing women by the B word (female dog) .. as a common practice ..

is that not objectionable to the uber politically correct crowd (like those who wrote posts # 141 # 205) who find gender disparity when a shopkeeper shouts at a female shop assistant or when a group discusses a project ignoring inputs from a member of the fairer sex (both in India!!)

namaste

amani_bhava

In the lyrics you pasted in, I think he's using the term in the broader sense, where it's just addressing a person, not necessarily a woman and not necessarily in a derogatory manner.

But either way, that's not the point - regardless of whether people might agree with the message and language, it is an authentic expression of culture and humanity.

 

[Amani_Bhava]

In the lyrics you pasted in, I think he's using the term in the broader sense, where it's just addressing a person, not necessarily a woman and not necessarily in a derogatory manner.

But either way, that's not the point - regardless of whether people might agree with the message and language, it is an authentic expression of culture and humanity.

I see ..

Not only am I an Asian but at 40 I am ancient too!!

No clue of any art form or way of speaking where a woman can be called B word (female dog) in "not necessarily in a derogatory manner" (as you put it)

When did this change happen I wonder ..

namaste

amani_bhava

 

[Epic Beard Man]

Far out!

But that doesn't mean we can give you a Pulitzer

I'm not as talented