Why are insurance costs out of control with the 'Affordable Healthcare Act"

[buddhist]

You call yourself a Buddhist, ergo, you live by some else's knowledge.

Nope, an Early Buddhist lives by one's own knowledge: "The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One, to be seen here & now, timeless, inviting verification, pertinent, to be realized by the wise for themselves." (AN 3.70)

 

[Watchmen]

You make far far far more money than I do. And even after those taxes, you still have a crap ton more money than I do.

What an absurd assumption.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What an absurd assumption.

What an absurd assumption over how much I make.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Nope, an Early Buddhist lives by one's own knowledge: "The Dhamma is well-expounded by the Blessed One, to be seen here & now, timeless, inviting verification, pertinent, to be realized by the wise for themselves." (AN 3.70)

That very quote is someone else's knowledge.
"Nothing of me is original. I am the combined effort of everyone I've ever known." - Chuck Palahniuk.

 

[Watchmen]

What an absurd assumption over how much I make.

I made no claim as to how much you do or do not make. On what basis do you believe he has craploads more money than you after paying taxes?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I made no claim as to how much you do or do not make. On what basis do you believe he has craploads more money than you after paying taxes?

Through the things the has said over the years. No, I don't know how much exactly he makes, but compared to me, it's still a lot more than what I have.

 

[Quetzal]

Yes.
But before you ask, it would be inappropriate to give any numbers.

Example #1....
Our state has legal limitations & requirements for property tax amounts & increases.
My county & state regularly hit us with illegally high increases. So I spend much
money & time fighting these, & always win reductions. But they continue to do it
because they have no cost associated with their actions, & they know most won't fight.

Example #2....
I not only pay higher property taxes than are legally appropriate, I also spend money
on lawyers & researchers to defend myself against this. So our country has an economic
burden due to the dead hand of bureaucracy & predatory government.

Example #3....
People think that roads are paid for by taxes in general.
This is not so accurate. In front of my properties, if roads are repaired, I get a special
assessment based upon my frontage. We businesses pay the entire cost....over &
above the taxes we pay supposedly for roads. Sidewalks get this treatment too.
I get no choice in this. The township or city does it by fiat.

Sounds like your local governments bend you over the barrel.

 

[Revoltingest]

You make far far far more money than I do. And even after those taxes, you still have a crap ton more money than I do.

That isn't really the issue.
It's that the benefit v cost ratio is so low.
Some people get more than the give.
Some give far more than they get.

 

[Revoltingest]

Sounds like your local governments bend you over the barrel.

And I strongly suspect that this happens all over the country.

 

[Curious George]

Because the U.S. gov'ment controls it.
The Gov't does nothing economically.
Because foolish voters "bought" the notion that gov'ment insurance
would be FREE.
Anything doled out by the gov'ment is NEVER free.
Someone(s) like working taxpayers are footing the bill big time.
Nothing is so expensive as a FREE Gov'ment program.
Who is paying for all the people on the dole living and eating without
working and earning one thin dime?
A long time ago when I was a rookie cop I qualified for food stamps.
And took 'em.
For about 3 months then I got yet ANOTHER part time job and earned
enough to get off food stamps.
I ate BETTER on food stamps.
I watched ethnics trade food stamps for beer and wine. Something that
was supposed to be illegal.
Slum lords took food stamps for rent payment.
Those on the dole lived pretty well by supplementing expenses with
food stamps and shoplifting.
Sell the food stamps for cash then buy beer and wine. Sell the stolen
goods for cash. No taxes. Can't beat it.
Now there are no food stamps. They get a credit card so as to not be
embarrassed using paper food stamps.
If ya need the assistance then take it. Don't make it a way of life.

The government controls it?

 

[Curious George]

That isn't really the issue.
It's that the benefit v cost ratio is so low.
Some people get more than the give.
Some give far more than they get.

Some people can afford to give more.

 

[Revoltingest]

Some people can afford to give more.

No argument here.

 

[Quetzal]

And I strongly suspect that this happens all over the country.

Maybe. I make a modest salary, live within my means and never find myself strapped or angry at the government for taking too much. Maybe I am an outlier.

 

[Shad]

Why are medicines so much cheaper in Canada than America?

We have far more generic brands in the market. Also pharmaceuticals can be covered by insurance but not by Healthcare. The insurance companies have a closer relationship with pharmaceutical companies which is financially beneficial. My own insurance has dropped coverage for certain products mostly brand names for generics a number of times forcing me to seek advice for products that meet both my health and financial capacity

What exactly is the deal with the pharma companies that makes them able to rob Americans so easily?

I assume the restriction and standards of the FDA keeping the market in favour of brand name products.

 

[buddhist]

That very quote is someone else's knowledge.

It may or may not have been someone else's knowledge; but it is certainly a claim, and it is now in my possession as my knowledge.

 

[jeager106]

Maybe. I make a modest salary, live within my means and never find myself strapped or angry at the government for taking too much. Maybe I am an outlier.

No your not.
I don't cry and whine about paying taxes.
Well when I made 7 grand in one week and they took half of it I got miffed.
Otherwise we do get what we pay for.
I just don't like paying for people to live free who have never worked
but could.

 

[Augustus]

I just don't like paying for people to live free who have never worked
but could.

I'd guess that probably takes up <$0.005 of each tax dollar though.

 

[Revoltingest]

Maybe. I make a modest salary, live within my means and never find myself strapped or angry at the government for taking too much. Maybe I am an outlier.

Yes, as an adventuring alien who has adapted to the life of the herd.

A great many people are comfortable with government.
It doesn't intrude upon their life in any way which bothers them.
Get a regular job....the employer pays one's taxes & health care....
sets ones hours...tells one what to do & where. The employer
takes raises the capital & takes all the risks.
They've not been drafted by the military, beaten by cops, unjustly
prosecuted, over-taxed, or subject to vagaries of over-regulation.

 

[Quetzal]

Yes, as an adventuring alien who has adapted to the life of the herd.

A great many people are comfortable with government.
It doesn't intrude upon their life in any way which bothers them.
Get a regular job....the employer pays one's taxes & health care....
sets ones hours...tells one what to do & where. The employer
takes raises the capital & takes all the risks.
They've not been drafted by the military, beaten by cops, unjustly
prosecuted, over-taxed, or subject to vagaries of over-regulation.

Do you think your experiences speak for a majority of people?

 

[Quetzal]

Yes, as an adventuring alien who has adapted to the life of the herd.

A great many people are comfortable with government.
It doesn't intrude upon their life in any way which bothers them.
Get a regular job....the employer pays one's taxes & health care....
sets ones hours...tells one what to do & where. The employer
takes raises the capital & takes all the risks.
They've not been drafted by the military, beaten by cops, unjustly
prosecuted, over-taxed, or subject to vagaries of over-regulation.

Also, for what it is worth, based on what you have shared, I can see why a candidate like Trump would be more attractive. I mean that in a genuine way.