Why are people proud to be gay

[Viker]

I thought strippers were supposed to turn people on, not make them flee in disgust.

I don't know. If you star shaking it I might start baking it.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Wouldnt that be like being proud of being a stripper? (Not judging)

*blinks*
How'd you land on THAT analogy?

Cant you just... have a day to celebrate Gay liberation movement and call it quits

Yep. We could call it 'Gay Pride day' or something, and have a march.

edit: My theory. Gay pride is socialist authoritarianism.

Yeah. I remember the first time I was forced into a gay pride march...oh wait...no I don't. It's never happened.

Serious answer, if one is required.
It's not the fact that they were born gay that is their source of 'pride'.
It the shared experiences of dealing with prejudice, judgement, and in some cases more extreme forms of censure.
It's recognition that in some places it's POSSIBLE to have a gay pride march, and taking joy in that.

If you really want this to get to a point where there is no need to be proud of being out and gay, then your task is to help the world move to a point where gay people aren't prejudiced against, judged, or censured.
Then one day people will be like 'Hey, I'm gay', and those around them will be all 'I don't care, Mike. It's still your shout. Stop trying to get out of paying.'

Okay, so I might gone off topic a little at the end there.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I don't know. If you star shaking it I might start baking it.

Don't tempt me.

 

[Lars]

What's "good character, good values" to you?

Hobbies, being helpful, dependable, trying to be relied on and overall work on stuff that makes you go somewhere. Just overall core ideas of value system, since sex and stuff isnt really that important. Activity is nr 1 important thing, everything else is a nr 2. But corruption happens if you dont have a value system to go by. Not trying to shame masturbators or porn or people who are into different things. But without a value system it all goes downhill

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Yes pure socialist propaganda or maybe the just like sticking it in the face of white right wing homophobes.

*blinks*

This whole thread is confusing me at this point.

 

[Lars]

*blinks*
How'd you land on THAT analogy?



Yep. We could call it 'Gay Pride day' or something, and have a march.



Yeah. I remember the first time I was forced into a gay pride march...oh wait...no I don't. It's never happened.

Serious answer, if one is required.
It's not the fact that they were born gay that is their source of 'pride'.
It the shared experiences of dealing with prejudice, judgement, and in some cases more extreme forms of censure.
It's recognition that in some places it's POSSIBLE to have a gay pride march, and taking joy in that.

If you really want this to get to a point where there is no need to be proud of being out and gay, then your task is to help the world move to a point where gay people aren't prejudiced against, judged, or censured.
Then one day people will be like 'Hey, I'm gay', and those around them will be all 'I don't care, Mike. It's still your shout. Stop trying to get out of paying.'

Okay, so I might gone off topic a little at the end there.

Gay pride is just being provocative though. Thats socialist authoritarian propaganda. Its not like Women`s day or such thing where they celebrate with cake and being non obscene in a sense. You get that right?

But a corrupt value system is the problem with American liberals in general.

 

[Unveiled Artist]

Eh socialists do the same thing, but physical violence isnt ok at all. But Socialists rely on social manipulation tactics, to manipulate people and bring forth mangina values and mentally screw you in lots of ways.

Any backlash against that? Didnt think so.

PRIDE Movement (the message) isn't political.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I mean they are doing it fine to themselves now though. Its not like i look at it and think. Oh wow thats cool lol! If they focused on "good character, good values" then yeah i would admire that. Too bad liberals are too morally bankrupt to bring that to the thought process

Part of 'good character, good morals' for me would be not judging someone based on being homosexual.
So...mwap, mwap.

 

[Lars]

Yes pure socialist propaganda or maybe the just like sticking it in the face of white right wing homophobes.

Ok i do know Liberals in USA love profiting of racism in USA. KKK hasnt left that platform. Basically they evolved. "Coloured people " was racist, then they formed "people of colour" in modern time. So the whole country is racist because of how stupid they are to rely on two party system, rather than creating social democrat party, or more parties to fix the system,. Because Americans are insanely stupid often

 

[Viker]

Hobbies, being helpful, dependable, trying to be relied on and overall work on stuff that makes you go somewhere. Just overall core ideas of value system, since sex and stuff isnt really that important. Activity is nr 1 important thing, everything else is a nr 2. But corruption happens if you dont have a value system to go by. Not trying to shame masturbators or porn or people who are into different things. But without a value system it all goes downhill

So, you think gays and the like have no values? Really? Wow. You just fell out of a bus from the 1950's. Don't let it run you over.

 

[Lars]

Part of 'good character, good morals' for me would be not judging someone based on being homosexual.
So...mwap, mwap.

I dont. i judge idiots. Being gay is fine. But socialist propaganda is crap

 

[Lars]

Good gay music.. assuming if that counts

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Eh socialists do the same thing, but physical violence isnt ok at all. But Socialists rely on social manipulation tactics, to manipulate people and bring forth mangina values and mentally screw you in lots of ways.

Any backlash against that? Didnt think so.

'Socialists'?
McCarthy would have loved you.

1) I'm not a socialist
2) I'm not American
3) I'm sure as crap not some new age hippie shouting the latest social engineering slogan
3) I have non-American, non-Socialist friends I mentioned this thread to (non-Australian too, fwiw), and they're about as politically correct as Auschwitz.

We all agreed you're either being deliberately provocative, or you have a degree of dislike for openly homosexual people.
That's not exactly the words we came up with, but you get the vibe, I'm sure.

So, sure...tag everyone who thinks you're being a tool here as a 'Socialist' if that helps you think you're fighting oppression. Whatever helps you sleep.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I thought strippers were supposed to turn people on, not make them flee in disgust.

Well...not always, actually.

 

[Lars]

'Socialists'?
McCarthy would have loved you.

1) I'm not a socialist
2) I'm not American
3) I'm sure as crap not some new age hippie shouting the latest social engineering slogan
3) I have non-American, non-Socialist friends I mentioned this thread to (non-Australian too, fwiw), and they're about as politically correct as Auschwitz.

We all agreed you're either being deliberately provocative, or you have a degree of dislike for openly homosexual people.
That's not exactly the words we came up with, but you get the vibe, I'm sure.

So, sure...tag everyone who thinks you're being a tool here as a 'Socialist' if that helps you think you're fighting oppression. Whatever helps you sleep.

Joseph Mccarthy was a hero. The only mistake he did was to stop
Either case socialists are good at tearing themselves down because they dont hold onto a value system. And thats why they suck

 

[Viker]

*blinks*

This whole thread is confusing me at this point.

OP is confused. Makes sense.

 

[Vinayaka]

Gay pride is just being provocative though. Thats socialist authoritarian propaganda. Its not like Women`s day or such thing where they celebrate with cake and being non obscene in a sense. You get that right?

But a corrupt value system is the problem with American liberals in general.

Can you define 'socialist authoritarian propaganda"? According to you, the largest gay pride parades in the world should be in China.

 

[Lars]

'Socialists'?
McCarthy would have loved you.

1) I'm not a socialist
2) I'm not American
3) I'm sure as crap not some new age hippie shouting the latest social engineering slogan
3) I have non-American, non-Socialist friends I mentioned this thread to (non-Australian too, fwiw), and they're about as politically correct as Auschwitz.

We all agreed you're either being deliberately provocative, or you have a degree of dislike for openly homosexual people.
That's not exactly the words we came up with, but you get the vibe, I'm sure.

So, sure...tag everyone who thinks you're being a tool here as a 'Socialist' if that helps you think you're fighting oppression. Whatever helps you sleep.

I dont oppose gay bar. I mean its weird sure, but if they can have stripbar then its fine with me.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Gay pride is just being provocative though. Thats socialist authoritarian propaganda. Its not like Women`s day or such thing where they celebrate with cake and being non obscene in a sense. You get that right?

So you'd be fine with gay pride, just wish they'd have a bake sale to celebrate it? That's not quite how freedom works, though...

But a corrupt value system is the problem with American liberals in general.

Which value is 'corrupt'? And you can skip the 'American liberals' thing, since I'm neither of those.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

I dont oppose gay bar. I mean its weird sure, but if they can have stripbar then its fine with me.

Sorry...what?