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Why are "some" right-wing conservatives so intellectually dishonest?

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
Well as for me being a person who believes in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture "religious fundamentalists"

So what if I do, What does that have to do with whether President Trump asking forgiveness.
Are we to judge a person, not knowing whether they may haved ask forgiveness.
Who exactly made them judge over another.

How does anyone know for sure whether a person ask forgiveness or not, That's not for anyone to pass judgement on anyone.

What does whether I have lied or not, what is that to anyone, that is between me and Christ Jesus and not no one else.

That's the whole problem with people, always looking into a person pass.
Which is none of their business.

Everyone was up in the air, over President Trump Firing Comey, but as it turned out, Trump was right in Firing Comey.
Seeing the IG and the DOJ Report findings of Comey.
And Comey could be facing jail, just another liberal democrat, Criminal of Corruption Bites the Dust.
And were you as happy to handwave Obama's personal history and religious practice?
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
And were you as happy to handwave Obama's personal history and religious practice?

What Obama did in his pass, was no one's else's business.
Only that it is the American people's business to know whether or not, if they are eligible to be President. Are they truly American Citizen to run as President.

But when Obama became President, Now what ever Obama does makes it the American people business.

No more than President Donald Trump, what he did in his pass, is no one's else's business.
But what President Trump does now as President, is the American people business.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
What Obama did in his pass, was no one's else's business.
Only that it is the American people's business to know whether or not, if they are eligible to be President. Are they truly American Citizen to run as President.

But when Obama became President, Now what ever Obama does makes it the American people business.

No more than President Donald Trump, what he did in his pass, is no one's else's business.
But what President Trump does now as President, is the American people business.
Fair enough. Good response.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
We know he never asked for forgiveness, because he said it himself.


But of course from experience we know you ignore facts.


Here's something for you to chew on

The truth is @BarackObama and his administration created the crisis and saw the children as political tools - numbers for use as part of a narrative treating them like animals. The @POTUS has seen the problem - fixed their living conditions and wants to stop the problem




 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
What ever, so what's up with all that
Trump's Hollywood Access tape didn't deter his supporters. Accusations of child molestation did not hinder Roy Moore supporters. But Al Franken is gone. Seems to me that Democrats take sexual misconduct way more seriously than the "family values" Republicans.
 
Maybe you should listen to the video again, Trump saying that when he partake in the Lord's supper, it was his way of asking forgiveness.
So there you have it.
Yet you continue to ignore him saying "I'm not sure that I have." Or "I don't think so." or "I don't bring god into that picture" If what you say is true then why would he say that.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
No more than President Donald Trump, what he did in his pass, is no one's else's business.
What someone wanting to run as president does in the past is very and highly relative in considering how they will function as a president. Trump has a history of running scams, backing out of deals and leaving the bill for everyone else, sexual abuse, racial discrimination, and being involved with an alarming amount of lawsuits. Those aren't exactly qualities most sane and rational people would want in an elected official. It matters, because the empowerment that White Supremacists are feeling due to Trump, and them having marches, demonstrates, and becoming more vocal, was a predictable consequence of a Trump presidency.
 
Here's something for you to chew on

The truth is @BarackObama and his administration created the crisis and saw the children as political tools - numbers for use as part of a narrative treating them like animals. The @POTUS has seen the problem - fixed their living conditions and wants to stop the problem





Actually no thats false.

Trump blames Democrats for own policy separating families

In the previous administration the DHS policy, not a democratic law was rarely enforced because illegal families were rarely prosecuted. Now thanks to the Trump administration the DHS is gladly prosecuting illegals family.

By the way I don't debate memes.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I believe what you are saying is that you are willing to call all people that still support President Trump dishonest because of the actions of President Trump. I say believe because the way you phrased it muddled and quite unclear.
And if anyone supports some actions, eg, his pardons, they're included.
Oh, how so many of those who trumpet their liberalism & tolerance so
often fall prey to the opposite.

After a week of communing with bumpkins from all over the country,
I find their generosity, intelligence, skills, diversity, & kindness refreshing.
This place pales in comparison.
 
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Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Yet you continue to ignore him saying "I'm not sure that I have." Or "I don't think so." or "I don't bring god into that picture" If what you say is true then why would he say that.

Yet you ignore Trump saying, that he may not ask God forgiveness, but when he partakes of the Lord's supper, he then ask Christ Jesus forgiveness.

But you seem to leave that part out.
What's up with all that.
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
What someone wanting to run as president does in the past is very and highly relative in considering how they will function as a president. Trump has a history of running scams, backing out of deals and leaving the bill for everyone else, sexual abuse, racial discrimination, and being involved with an alarming amount of lawsuits. Those aren't exactly qualities most sane and rational people would want in an elected official. It matters, because the empowerment that White Supremacists are feeling due to Trump, and them having marches, demonstrates, and becoming more vocal, was a predictable consequence of a Trump presidency.

So why didn't people hold the same view with Obama when he first ran for President, but instead saying, What Obama did in his pass has nothing to do with him being President.
So what goes around comes around.
What's up with all that Go Figure
 

Faithofchristian

Well-Known Member
Actually no thats false.

Trump blames Democrats for own policy separating families

In the previous administration the DHS policy, not a democratic law was rarely enforced because illegal families were rarely prosecuted. Now thanks to the Trump administration the DHS is gladly prosecuting illegals family.

By the way I don't debate memes.


NEWS IMMIGRATION

Before Jeff Sessions Separated Immigrant Families, Obama Did It
May 8, 2018, 6:16pm Tina Vasquez

A program that detains male Mexican migrants near the border and repatriates them far from their area of origin ramped up under the Obama administration—and often led to family separation.

The hardest stories come from the mothers. Between 2010 and 2012, the Obama administration deported more than 200,000 parents of U.S. citizen children, and more since that time. Many of the children of deported parents end up in the child welfare system, and may be separated indefinitely.

To make matters worse, if a mother attempts to return to the United States to unite with her children after being deported, she can face a felony charge with a federal prison sentence of up to 20 years.

So What's up with all that.
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
As to how do you know of a certain that Trump grabbed women ?
Well, he said it.

As men we all have said certain things about women behind closed doors, Right
I was a "gym rat" because I was in sports in high school and college, and not only did I never talk like that, I never heard anyone e;se bragging about how they could go around and grope women.

So just because Trump sayings things, doesn't prove a thing.
That part is true, but it also begs the question how Trump's words and actions in any way fits into your definition of "Christian"? Even if it were only words and not actions about "groping women by their p***y", how is that Christian, Faithofchistian?
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
Before Jeff Sessions Separated Immigrant Families, Obama Did It
Not true:

In an interview with NPR's Morning Edition host Steve Inskeep Tuesday, former President Barack Obama's domestic policy director, Cecilia Muñoz, stated unequivocally that separating children from their parents was not a policy the Obama administration followed.

"The Obama administration did not do that, no. We did not separate children from their parents," Muñoz said. "This is a new decision, a policy decision put in place by the attorney general," which Muñoz said "puts us in league with the most brutal regimes in the world's history."
... FACT CHECK: Are Democrats Responsible For DHS Separating Children From Their Parents?

Also, the former head on the DHS under Obama for three years said that this is not true, with the exception of those being bound over for prosecution after having charges issued. And even then, they looked for other relatives to take care of the kids until the trial was over.

The reality is that the Trump administration could end this with one phone call from Trump, which could end what Laura Bush said is "cruel and immoral". These separations is what the NAZI's did, and it simply is appalling that kids are being put into concentration camps. How is this in any way Christian, Fathofchristian? Jesus said "bring the little children unto me...", not "put them in cages".
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
So What's up with all that.
Here's what's up with all that.

The 1%, who really run the USA, don't want effective and sensible immigration reform. That's because undocumented workers are extremely profitable. So instead of protecting USA jobs by prosecuting the criminals who give them away to illegals they encourage nonsense like sanctuary cities and splitting up families to keep the focus on the workers and off of the real criminals.
Tom
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Here's what's up with all that.

The 1%, who really run the USA, don't want effective and sensible immigration reform. That's because undocumented workers are extremely profitable. So instead of protecting USA jobs by prosecuting the criminals who give them away to illegals they encourage nonsense like sanctuary cities and splitting up families to keep the focus on the workers and off of the real criminals.
Tom
Which companies are hiring these illegals?
 
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