Why are "some" right-wing conservatives so intellectually dishonest?

[Faithofchristian]

So, he's either a liar, or he was being truthful.

Either way, being married, he committed adultery:

You heard that it was said to the ancients: You shall not commit adultery; but I -- I say to you, that every one who is looking on a woman to desire her, did already commit adultery with her in his heart.

-- It doesn't matter what a lot of men do. Wide is the gate that leads to destruction. Molestation is not a joke.

So your the almighty judge.

As I said, how do You not know if Trump ask Christ Jesus forgiveness. And now your still wanting to judge him.

Who exactly place you to be the judge over people.

Did not Jesus say ----
Matthew 12:31-32 King James Version (KJV)
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

So seeing that Christ Jesus did say, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men"

So how do you not know that Trump didn't ask forgiveness, But yet your still wanting to judge. Judge Not for in the way you judge, You shalt be judge.

 

[Sleeppy]

So your the almighty judge.

As I said, how do You not know if Trump ask Christ Jesus forgiveness. And now your still wanting to judge him.

Who exactly place you to be the judge over people.

Did not Jesus say ----
Matthew 12:31-32 King James Version (KJV)
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

So seeing that Christ Jesus did say, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men"

So how do you not know that Trump didn't ask forgiveness, But yet your still wanting to judge. Judge Not for in the way you judge, You shalt be judge.

Truth > Speculation.

You can speculate whether Trump asked for forgiveness all you want. Speculation doesn't change the truth: Trump committed adultery, by joking about molestation of women.

And I am also able to judge righteously, that you are ignoring Jesus' command, by your speculation:

Matthew 5:37
Let your word be, Yes, Yes, No, No, and that which is more than these is of the evil.

 

[Faithofchristian]

I've never joked about molesting women, not even as a child. No one is able to judge me with that judgement. But I am able to judge Trump with righteous judgement, because Jesus already has. Joking about molestation of women is adultery.

Can you give exactly where in the Bible the chapter and verse as to where that is written at, That joking about molestation of women is adultery, in all my 55 years in reading the Bible I have never read such a thing.

By the way, it's people like you, that gives the bible a bad reputation, in quoting things that are not even in the Bible.

So give the book and chapter and verse as to where it's written, That joking about molestation of women is adultery.

 

[Sleeppy]

Can you give exactly where in the Bible the chapter and verse as to where that is written at, That joking about molestation of women is adultery, in all my 55 years in reading the Bible I have never read such a thing.

By the way, it's people like you, that gives the bible a bad reputation, in quoting things that are not even in the Bible.

So give the book and chapter and verse as to where it's written, That joking about molestation of women is adultery.

Matthew 5:27-28

You heard that it was said to the ancients: you shalt not commit adultery; but I -- I say to you, that every one who is looking on a woman to desire her, did already commit adultery with her in his heart.


-- You did not read? Again ignoring Jesus' command in Matthew 5:37.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Truth > Speculation.

You can speculate whether Trump asked for forgiveness all you want. Speculation doesn't change the truth: Trump committed adultery, by joking about molestation of women.

And I am also able to judge righteously, that you are ignoring Jesus' command, by your speculation:

Matthew 5:37
Let your word be, Yes, Yes, No, No, and that which is more than these is of the evil.

All I have to say, Is give the book and chapter and verse in the Bible, That it's adultery to joke about molestation of women.

 

[Sleeppy]

All I have to say, Is give the book and chapter and verse in the Bible, That it's adultery to joke about molestation of women.

Already given above.

 

[Audie]

Are you freaking kidding me, there's not a man around that hasn't talk about women in one way or another.
Get real.

So who made you the judge, didn't Jesus say, Judge not, for in the way you judge, You shalt be judge.

So how do you not know, that Trump ask Jesus forgiveness,. And now your judging Trump,
I'd be very careful in judging someone especially not knowing for sure if they had ask Christ Jesus forgiveness.

Matt.7. [1] "Judge not, that you be not judged. [2] For with what judgment you judge, you shall be judged: and with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again"

Well! There goes our legal system! All of morality with it!

 

[Rational Agnostic]

Intellectual dishonesty is just fashionable today among conservatives. There may be things fueling and encouraging it, such as a few billionaires who see advantages in hoodwinking folks into unwittingly supporting such things as privatizing social security or their fossil fuel businesses by helping to spread lies and confusion about climate change, but ultimately, I think it can be seen as fashion. At least in the sense that, it's likely to change some day. When I was growing up, the conservatives probably in some ways had a slight edge over the liberals when it came to intellectual honesty. Maybe those days will return.

Intellectual dishonesty is also fashionable among liberals. Look at all of the fake feminists who support Islamic culture, yet bash western culture as being "patriarchal." Consider how much money the "progressive" Clinton Foundation took from Saudi Arabia, a nation in which women and minorities have basically no rights.

 

[Sunstone]

Intellectual dishonesty is also fashionable among liberals. Look at all of the fake feminists who support Islamic culture, yet bash western culture as being "patriarchal." Consider how much money the "progressive" Clinton Foundation took from Saudi Arabia, a nation in which women and minorities have basically no rights.

I think you are confusing hypocrisy and corruption with intellectual dishonesty.

 

[Sunstone]

Are you freaking kidding me, there's not a man around that hasn't talk about women in one way or another.
Get real.

"...in one way or another." Typical false equivalence argument. "She's hot" versus "Grab her by the *****". You fundamentalists specialize in false equivalences sometimes -- especially when proselytizing. "Can you honestly swear that you have never broken the commandment to not lie? Never even once in your life told a little fib?"

 

[Rational Agnostic]

I think you are confusing hypocrisy and corruption with intellectual dishonesty.

Perhaps. But I still maintain that the left has become *more* unreasonable, not less as you seemed to imply. For instance, girls can now join Boy Scouts, but boys can't join Girl Scouts. Many on the left support this kind of asininity.

 

[Sunstone]

Perhaps. But I still maintain that the left has become *more* unreasonable, not less as you seemed to imply. For instance, girls can now join Boy Scouts, but boys can't join Girl Scouts. Many on the left support this kind of asininity.

The notion I think the left is getting less unreasonable seems to me quite a leap from anything I've actually said. I think the left is getting less reasonable overall. But I think the right is way out ahead of the left in that department. There's always a leader somewhere, and this time it's the likes of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, and others on the right.

 

[Rational Agnostic]

The notion I think the left is getting less unreasonable seems to me quite a leap from anything I've actually said. I think the left is getting less reasonable overall. But I think the right is way out ahead of the left in that department. There's always a leader somewhere, and this time it's the likes of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Alex Jones, and others on the right.

I agree Hannity, Limbaugh, and Jones are kooky. But what do you think of moderate conservatives like Jordan Peterson for example? I find some of his views intriguing, though I don't agree with a lot of what he says.

 

[Sunstone]

I agree Hannity, Limbaugh, and Jones are kooky. But what do you think of moderate conservatives like Jordan Peterson for example? I find some of his views intriguing, though I don't agree with a lot of what he says.

There are certainly some moderate conservatives still around. That's the kind of conservative I myself once was. I especially like G. W. Bush's former speechwriter David Frum, and even much better, Nick Cohen -- who has an excellent command of intellectual history.

Just superb. His attack on extreme leftists who want to change the philosophical and legal grounds on which free speech can be properly limited is so honest, well documented, and insightful, it should be required reading for every college and university student in the country.

Having said that, I don't think moderate conservatives have anywhere near the platforms for being heard as the Alex Joneses do today. Not anywhere near their platforms.

Thanks for the heads up on Jordan Peterson. I'll check him out.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

So your the almighty judge.

As I said, how do You not know if Trump ask Christ Jesus forgiveness. And now your still wanting to judge him.

Who exactly place you to be the judge over people.

Did not Jesus say ----
Matthew 12:31-32 King James Version (KJV)
31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

So seeing that Christ Jesus did say, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men"

So how do you not know that Trump didn't ask forgiveness, But yet your still wanting to judge. Judge Not for in the way you judge, You shalt be judge.

We know he never asked for forgiveness, because he said it himself.

But of course from experience we know you ignore facts.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

More Liberal democrats have step down out their office, for their sexual misconduct towards women then Republicans.

Yeah. Republicans make excuses for their members accused of sexual misconduct and elect them in primaries and vote for them in national elections. They claim to be the party of "family values."
On the other hand, with Democrats, Al Franken was accused and resigned. It seems to me Democrats take sexual misconduct way more seriously than Republicans, which is far more "family values" like.

 

[Shad]

We know he never asked for forgiveness, because he said it himself.

But of course from experience we know you ignore facts.

That is a long way to say "No"

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

That is a long way to say "No"

That's because he was trying to avoid the question.

 

[Faithofchristian]

"...in one way or another." Typical false equivalence argument. "She's hot" versus "Grab her by the *****". You fundamentalists specialize in false equivalences sometimes -- especially when proselytizing. "Can you honestly swear that you have never broken the commandment to not lie? Never even once in your life told a little fib?"

Well as for me being a person who believes in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture "religious fundamentalists"

So what if I do, What does that have to do with whether President Trump asking forgiveness.
Are we to judge a person, not knowing whether they may haved ask forgiveness.
Who exactly made them judge over another.

How does anyone know for sure whether a person ask forgiveness or not, That's not for anyone to pass judgement on anyone.

What does whether I have lied or not, what is that to anyone, that is between me and Christ Jesus and not no one else.

That's the whole problem with people, always looking into a person pass.
Which is none of their business.

Everyone was up in the air, over President Trump Firing Comey, but as it turned out, Trump was right in Firing Comey.
Seeing the IG and the DOJ Report findings of Comey.
And Comey could be facing jail, just another liberal democrat, Criminal of Corruption Bites the Dust.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Yeah. Republicans make excuses for their members accused of sexual misconduct and elect them in primaries and vote for them in national elections. They claim to be the party of "family values."
On the other hand, with Democrats, Al Franken was accused and resigned. It seems to me Democrats take sexual misconduct way more seriously than Republicans, which is far more "family values" like.

What ever, so what's up with all that