Why are "some" right-wing conservatives so intellectually dishonest?

[columbus]

Numbers?
Links?

Do you think giant companies post statistics about their criminal behavior online?

Do you think large companies are hiring their workforce thru temp agencies?

Those stats are easy to find.
Yes, lots. All the ones around here do. A few years back a couple of the bigger employers were shut down by a rumor that INS might come check papers. They were virtually all from temp agencies.
Tom

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Which companies are hiring these illegals?

Some meat processing plants around here, such as Tyson, occasionally get hit for doing just that. I know some restaurants that had or have illegal immigrants working for them, as well as some construction companies.

 

[Revoltingest]

Some meat processing plants around here, such as Tyson, occasionally get hit for doing just that. I know some restaurants that had or have illegal immigrants working for them, as well as some construction companies.

He was referring to the "1%".
I don't think they muddle around with local eateries, drywall finishers & turd herders.
One percenters own things like Apple & IBM...GM & Ford...Walmart & Amazon...AIG & Bank Of Americastan.
They're hiring illegals in significant numbers?
He says the stats are easy to find.
But if so easy, why has no one presented them?

 

[Faithofchristian]

Not true:

In an interview with NPR's Morning Edition host Steve Inskeep Tuesday, former President Barack Obama's domestic policy director, Cecilia Muñoz, stated unequivocally that separating children from their parents was not a policy the Obama administration followed.

"The Obama administration did not do that, no. We did not separate children from their parents," Muñoz said. "This is a new decision, a policy decision put in place by the attorney general," which Muñoz said "puts us in league with the most brutal regimes in the world's history."... FACT CHECK: Are Democrats Responsible For DHS Separating Children From Their Parents?

Also, the former head on the DHS under Obama for three years said that this is not true, with the exception of those being bound over for prosecution after having charges issued. And even then, they looked for other relatives to take care of the kids until the trial was over.

The reality is that the Trump administration could end this with one phone call from Trump, which could end what Laura Bush said is "cruel and immoral". These separations is what the NAZI's did, and it simply is appalling that kids are being put into concentration camps. How is this in any way Christian, Fathofchristian? Jesus said "bring the little children unto me...", not "put them in cages".

Not true:

In an interview with NPR's Morning Edition host Steve Inskeep Tuesday, former President Barack Obama's domestic policy director, Cecilia Muñoz, stated unequivocally that separating children from their parents was not a policy the Obama administration followed.

"The Obama administration did not do that, no. We did not separate children from their parents," Muñoz said. "This is a new decision, a policy decision put in place by the attorney general," which Muñoz said "puts us in league with the most brutal regimes in the world's history."... FACT CHECK: Are Democrats Responsible For DHS Separating Children From Their Parents?

Also, the former head on the DHS under Obama for three years said that this is not true, with the exception of those being bound over for prosecution after having charges issued. And even then, they looked for other relatives to take care of the kids until the trial was over.

The reality is that the Trump administration could end this with one phone call from Trump, which could end what Laura Bush said is "cruel and immoral". These separations is what the NAZI's did, and it simply is appalling that kids are being put into concentration camps. How is this in any way Christian, Fathofchristian? Jesus said "bring the little children unto me...", not "put them in cages".

Yeah ,Right, what ever.
Then how do you explain ?

NEWS IMMIGRATION

Before Jeff Sessions Separated Immigrant Families, Obama Did It
May 8, 2018, 6:16pm Tina Vasquez

A program that detains male Mexican migrants near the border and repatriates them far from their area of origin ramped up under the Obama administration—and often led to family separation.

The hardest stories come from the mothers. Between 2010 and 2012, the Obama administration deported more than 200,000 parents of U.S. citizen children, and more since that time. Many of the children of deported parents end up in the child welfare system, and may be separated indefinitely.

To make matters worse, if a mother attempts to return to the United States to unite with her children after being deported, she can face a felony charge with a federal prison sentence of up to 20 years.

The truth is @BarackObama and his administration created the crisis and saw the children as political tools - numbers for use as part of a narrative treating them like animals. The @POTUS has seen the problem - fixed their living conditions and wants to stop the problem






Looks like someone lying, but however Pictures don't lie.

 

[Faithofchristian]

Here's what's up with all that.

The 1%, who really run the USA, don't want effective and sensible immigration reform. That's because undocumented workers are extremely profitable. So instead of protecting USA jobs by prosecuting the criminals who give them away to illegals they encourage nonsense like sanctuary cities and splitting up families to keep the focus on the workers and off of the real criminals.
Tom

Yeah, looks like liberal democrats will not meet with President Trump to work the illegIl immigrants reform, So what's up with all that Go Figure

 

[columbus]

Yeah, looks like liberal democrats will not meet with President Trump to work the illegIl immigrants reform, So what's up with all that Go Figure

He doesn't need them anyway. They would just say things that got in the way of Mammon imitation.
Tom

 

[columbus]

He says the stats are easy to find.
But if so easy, why has no one presented them?

I said that stats on the number of temps hired by big companies would be ready to find. How many are illegal would be more than difficult.

Probably impossible since the government prefers to sweep this immensely profitable problem under the rug.
Tom

 

[Faithofchristian]

He doesn't need them anyway. They would just say things that got in the way of Mammon imitation.
Tom

You know that's Right. Great come back.

But you would have to admit, at lease Trump did ask the liberal democrats, So now it's on them.

 

[columbus]

You know that's Right. Great come back.

But you would have to admit, at lease Trump did ask the liberal democrats, So now it's on them.

I honestly doubt that's really true. But either way, it's utterly irrelevant to the point. Trump has majorities in both houses and on SCOTUS. It's entirely on them at this point.
And it's a miserable failure so far.
Tom

 

[Faithofchristian]

I honestly doubt that's really true. But either way, it's utterly irrelevant to the point. Trump has majorities in both houses and on SCOTUS. It's entirely on them at this point.
And it's a miserable failure so far.
Tom

You know, there was no problem with Illegal immigrants coming into the USA, back 20-30-40-50 or so years ago. The world wasn't face with terrorist coming into countries killing people as they are doing to day.
So the USA is only protecting it's people against terrorist. Wanting extreme Vetting. And a border wall to stop terrorist from entering the USA.

Seeing people are now trying to use their children as excuse to try and get into the USA.
So in reality who's actually using the children the parents are.

 

[Revoltingest]

I said that stats on the number of temps hired by big companies would be ready to find. How many are illegal would be more than difficult.

Probably impossible since the government prefers to sweep this immensely profitable problem under the rug.
Tom

Your claim.
Your burden.
I don't do the other kid's homework.

 

[columbus]

Your claim.
Your burden.
I don't do the other kid's homework.

You really question whether big companies use temps from companies like Manpower?
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

You really question whether big companies use temps from companies like Manpower?
Tom

I think you're making up a claim you can't support.
But as the title says....you conservatives are not to be trusted.

 

[columbus]

He was referring to the "1%".
I don't think they muddle around with local eateries, drywall finishers & turd herders.
One percenters own things like Apple & IBM...GM & Ford...Walmart & Amazon...AIG & Bank Of Americastan.
They're hiring illegals in significant numbers?

I didn't say they even hire them, although I am sure they do.
A big cheap labor pool keeps labor costs down across the board. But even illegal Mexicans still have to buy stuff, from gas and cars to groceries and clothes and housing.
So yeah, the investing class benefits hugely at the expense of working stiffs.
Tom

 

[columbus]

I think you're making up a claim you can't support.
But as the title says....you conservatives are not to be trusted.

What claim, exactly, are you talking about?
Tom

 

[Revoltingest]

I didn't say they even hire them, although I am sure they do.
A big cheap labor pool keeps labor costs down across the board. But even illegal Mexicans still have to buy stuff, from gas and cars to groceries and clothes and housing.
So yeah, the investing class benefits hugely at the expense of working stiffs.
Tom

I'm highly skeptical.
Illegals seem far more important to small businesses,
who don't have personnel departments, elaborate hiring
procedures, or a public image to worry about.
I'll bet that were Warren Buffet to see your claim, he'd
fart in your general direction...after eating cabbage.

 

[Revoltingest]

What claim, exactly, are you talking about?
Tom

From your earlier post.....

The 1%, who really run the USA, don't want effective and sensible immigration reform. That's because undocumented workers are extremely profitable. So instead of protecting USA jobs by prosecuting the criminals who give them away to illegals they encourage nonsense like sanctuary cities and splitting up families to keep the focus on the workers and off of the real criminals.

I notice that you don't object to government giving taxpayer funded benefits to illegal aliens.
You want their employers prosecuted, thereby putting all illegals out of work so that they
cannot support themselves or pay taxes. So they'd go on the dole at taxpayer expense.
Should those officials be prosecuted too?

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

Yet you ignore Trump saying, that he may not ask God forgiveness, but when he partakes of the Lord's supper, he then ask Christ Jesus forgiveness.

But you seem to leave that part out.
What's up with all that.

Stop lying he never said that in the video. Trump isn't a christian. Get over it already.

 

[TheBannerofHomuraAkemi]

NEWS IMMIGRATION

Before Jeff Sessions Separated Immigrant Families, Obama Did It
May 8, 2018, 6:16pm Tina Vasquez

A program that detains male Mexican migrants near the border and repatriates them far from their area of origin ramped up under the Obama administration—and often led to family separation.

The hardest stories come from the mothers. Between 2010 and 2012, the Obama administration deported more than 200,000 parents of U.S. citizen children, and more since that time. Many of the children of deported parents end up in the child welfare system, and may be separated indefinitely.

To make matters worse, if a mother attempts to return to the United States to unite with her children after being deported, she can face a felony charge with a federal prison sentence of up to 20 years.

So What's up with all that.

Refer to @metis post 115 please.

 

[Epic Beard Man]

You know, there was no problem with Illegal immigrants coming into the USA, back 20-30-40-50 or so years ago. The world wasn't face with terrorist coming into countries killing people as they are doing to day.
So the USA is only protecting it's people against terrorist. Wanting extreme Vetting. And a border wall to stop terrorist from entering the USA.

Seeing people are now trying to use their children as excuse to try and get into the USA.
So in reality who's actually using the children the parents are.

We are more in danger of deranged white terrorists than we are of Islamic extremists.