Why are there still Monkeys?

[FearGod]

Let's just reiterate what we already know and avoid the hurdles, shall we?

We both know how earthquakes happen. Because we know how earthquakes happen, we understand the causes and effects of earthquakes. Because we have this knowledge, we can predict earthquakes, though not at a usable time scale. With all of this knowledge, and with all of this knowledge being demonstrated (and presented in that video I posted), we both know that earthquakes are a physical and natural phenomenon and have absolutely not a spitting thing to do with God.

And that proves nothing.

It is like saying we know that the child becomes human due to sperm and egg that becomes a zygote which develop to fetus,then there is no God in the process. :clap

Did you see how stupid it is ?

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

So....an item set in motion along time ago cannot be associated with that Item that set it into motion?

Well, you get my point.

When it comes to "God" setting it into motion, well, you're going to say "yes" and I'm going to say "no" and we can debate until the Yosemite Super-volcano goes off and not get anywhere.

But at least we can agree that God doesn't get bored once in a while and just decides to give Los Angeles a shake once in a while just to show us he can and teach us a bit of humility.

 

[outhouse]

So....an item set in motion along time ago cannot be associated with that Item that set it into motion?

Not the way you wish to pervert it.

Tectonic plates move, no god required.

As a matter of fact, not one aspect of nature requires mythology.

 

[Thief]

Not the way you wish to pervert it.

Tectonic plates move, no god required.

As a matter of fact, not one aspect of nature requires mythology.

The earth was set into motion...by God.
The lesser motions you hinge your discussion upon are just part of the larger picture.

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

And that proves nothing.

It is like saying we know that the child becomes human due to sperm and egg that becomes a zygote which develop to fetus,then there is no God in the process. :clap

Did you see how stupid it is ?

Nope.

But at least you get my point that there are natural reasons for earthquakes and not some God throwing a temper tantrum or Loki chained to the earth while writhing in pain.

 

[Thief]

Well, you get my point.

When it comes to "God" setting it into motion, well, you're going to say "yes" and I'm going to say "no" and we can debate until the Yosemite Super-volcano goes off and not get anywhere.

But at least we can agree that God doesn't get bored once in a while and just decides to give Los Angeles a shake once in a while just to show us he can and teach us a bit of humility.

More like God was bored and created Man....just for giggles.

Now...be thou humble.

 

[outhouse]

The earth was set into motion...by God..

That is a religious answer, not a scientific one. Therefore not credible or valid.

yet you cannot prove your statement to be correct.

Many view it as mythology knowing man created gods

Your god does not exist scientifically, so it cannot be attributed to anything.

 

[Thief]

That is a religious answer, not a scientific one. Therefore not credible or valid.

yet you cannot prove your statement to be correct.

Many view it as mythology knowing man created gods

Your god does not exist scientifically, so it cannot be attributed to anything.

From the beginning.....
All motion in place belongs to God.

God is the Source of all motion.

 

[FearGod]

Nope.

But at least you get my point that there are natural reasons for earthquakes and not some God throwing a temper tantrum or Loki chained to the earth while writhing in pain.

There is no point to discuss.

You believe that nature work by itself, like a car traveling without a driver whereas i believe that the earth is controlled and moved by God's power and his supervision.

How you can know that a car is traveling without a driver ?
it won't move in a controlled manners,compare this to earth then we should be dancing over those plates 24 hours a day.

 

[outhouse]

From the beginning.....
All motion in place belongs to God.

God is the Source of all motion.

False

Your god does not exist scientifically, nothing can be attributed to it.

You follow all the mythology you want. But dont cross scientific lines with mythology or faith. Thats not how it works.

 

[Thief]

False

Your god does not exist scientifically, nothing can be attributed to it.

You follow all the mythology you want. But dont cross scientific lines with mythology or faith. Thats not how it works.

Spirit first.

God is the source of all motion.

Substance will remain motionless until Something moves it.

'bang'

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

There is no point to discuss.

You believe that nature work by itself, like a car traveling without a driver whereas i believe that the earth is controlled and moved by God's power and his supervision.

How you can know that a car is traveling without a driver ?
it won't move in a controlled manners,compare this to earth then we should be dancing over those plates 24 hours a day.

:thud:

In geological time, we are "dancing all over those plates 24 hours a day". We are, after all, moving.

As far as a car traveling without a driver stuff? Well, if someone were driving my car and kept running into stuff and shaking everything up, I wouldn't be letting him drive my car for long ... That speaks of either incompetence or recklessness.

 

[MD]

This thread is still going...exceptional!

 

[FearGod]

:thud:

In geological time, we are "dancing all over those plates 24 hours a day". We are, after all, moving.

As far as a car traveling without a driver stuff? Well, if someone were driving my car and kept running into stuff and shaking everything up, I wouldn't be letting him drive my car for long ... That speaks of either incompetence or recklessness.

So in other words and according to your opinion the one managing and driving this universe is incompetent and reckless or do you think there is no one at all managing and controlling this universe and it is only matter of accidents, chances and some luck.

 

[Smart_Guy]

This thread is still going...exceptional!

Yeah, but humans are actually monkeys... I mean fish...

Just kidding

 

[idav]

Yeah, but humans are actually monkeys... I mean fish...

Just kidding

Are you kidding? Indeed god is the source of fish monkeys.

 

[Smart_Guy]

Are you kidding? Indeed god is the source of fish monkeys.

And it doesn't look tasty

(Fish lover here )

Um, my apologies to the thread owner for hellojacking the thread.

Note: hellojack = hijack

 

[sojourner]

So in other words and according to your opinion the one managing and driving this universe is incompetent and reckless or do you think there is no one at all managing and controlling this universe and it is only matter of accidents, chances and some luck.

Chance. Pure chance. That we are here at all is a matter of the grace of chance. Because THAT'S how the cosmos works.

 

[Thief]

So in other words and according to your opinion the one managing and driving this universe is incompetent and reckless or do you think there is no one at all managing and controlling this universe and it is only matter of accidents, chances and some luck.

The scenario has some chance in it.
But with billions of planets with so much chemistry to choose from....
Earth would be the Garden.

With billions of genetics to choose from.....
Man would be that form preferred.....

With billions to choose from.....some of us are bound to have what it takes to walk in heaven.

 

[NewGuyOnTheBlock]

So in other words and according to your opinion the one managing and driving this universe is incompetent and reckless or do you think there is no one at all managing and controlling this universe and it is only matter of accidents, chances and some luck.

None of the above.

1 - There is nothing and no one "managing and controlling the universe".
2 - Things do as they do, not because of mere "luck" or "chance" but because of normal and natural processes with some "luck" (good or bad) mixed in.

When I jump up and come back down, no one says, "Sheesh! You're lucky you didn't end up on the moon!" That's because gravity just does what it does; there is no "chance" or "luck' involved with my body coming back down to earth. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is not wrapping it's noodley appendages around my ankles and pulling me back down. How and where Iand after jumping may seem a random process of "luck" but even that is only a matter of physics.