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Why be muslim?

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Okay, I'll play along. Please see my answers in red in your post I quoted above.
are this a difficult question ???
it Is a simple question
What is the gift that God gives to the struggling Muslim in Paradise ??
God gives ( Horiat ) beautiful
For this reason
Muslim wishes martyrdom and death until he gets this ( beautiful women in Paradise )
2. This is a gift to the fights for the sake of God ??
3. This is a brainwashing ??
4-Suicidal Muslim believes that he gets these women in paradise ??
Teaching Jihad in Islam is associated with this sexual gift
??
Do you want more clarification ??
Islam is a terrorist idea ??
Jihad in order to get the gift of women in Paradise ( Alhoriat )
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
But there are different interpretations, and it's invalid for anybody, let alone a non-Muslim, to proclaim that their interpretation is correct and all others are wrong.
The difference in interpretation of the Koran

important reason
It is significant that the Qur'an in which contradictions ??
And differing interpretation of the Koran is configurable difference and not objective
All schools of Islamic Jihad agree
There is also agreement on other provisions of the Koran
Differing interpretations is the sub- issues
Like ( the house ) Shiite school believes that the Caliphs stole the caliphate of Ali bin Abi Talib
Believes that Hassan and Hussein are the descendants of Muhammad from his daughter Fatima
Those who killed Hassan and Hussein of the Sunni school
That's the difference between them is in the sub- issues
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Difference in issues such as ( temporary marriage )
Shiite school says it fixed the teachings of the Koran
While the Sunni school says that temporary marriage only in the course of the fighting and Jihad
2. Altkaah
Shiites consider the task is one of the teachings of the Koran
Sunni school says the only Altkaah If a Muslim living in the land of the infidels
Thus all the differences
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
My point still stands that as a source for knowledge of history of Islam, these sources are unreliable. I am not arguing against whatever criticisms they have against Islam, but only their misuse of historical accounts and their unreliability as an encyclopedic source.
What do you want to cancel the history of Islam ???
Since 1400 years Muslims believe in those books ?
Why do you want canceled ??
Is it written in those books is not true ??
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Thus all the differences

These are clearly not all the differences, as we can easily observe just be looking at the massive variation in how Muslims live in the real world, and what moral systems they have. There are massive amounts of different interpretations, which intersect with cultural differences to add further diversity.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
These are clearly not all the differences, as we can easily observe just be looking at the massive variation in how Muslims live in the real world, and what moral systems they have. There are massive amounts of different interpretations, which intersect with cultural differences to add further diversity.
These are some of the differences and not all Yes this is true
2. I'm talking about the sources of Islamic thought and wrote the Koran and Muslims
3. Do you think that the attitude of the Muslims better than the morality of the Europeans or Indians ??
4. The answer to a difficult question?
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Well there is a simple standard measure
1 -aurba receives Muslims
2. deal with them full equality
3. Does the Islamic countries receiving immigrants ??
4. Is the Islamic countries are dealing with the same logic with others
5. Here moral standard measure
6. Christians in Muslim countries are suffering from oppression, injustice and murder
7. churches destroyed
8. been displaced
9. were robbed of their property
 

Kirran

Premium Member
These are some of the differences and not all Yes this is true

I respect your acknowledgement of that.

2. I'm talking about the sources of Islamic thought and wrote the Koran and Muslims

Fair enough, you're right, the material is there if people want to interpret it in this manner. Certainly, there is the potential for violence in Islamic thought, perhaps even a little more than many other major religions, because of the context in which the Qur'an was written, and in which Islam expanded.

But it still isn't the only interpretation.

Also, what happened to point 1?

3. Do you think that the attitude of the Muslims better than the morality of the Europeans or Indians ??

Not better, no. But I wouldn't say intrinsically worse, especially if you compare like with like. It's not fair to compare Libya or Iraq to a far-more-settled country like the UK or Belgium. It's fairer to compare it to Christian countries in Sub-Saharan Africa which are going through tough times. 'Morality' is probably similar in Chad and the Central African Republic, even though one's mostly Muslim and the other mostly Christian.

4. The answer to a difficult question?

What?
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Fair enough, you're right, the material is there if people want to interpret it in this manner. Certainly, there is the potential for violence in Islamic thought, perhaps even a little more than many other major religions, because of the context in which the Qur'an was written, and in which Islam expanded.

But it still isn't the only interpretation.
Thank you -
Any book , education or school calls for fighting
Is invalid?
God does not call for a fight ??
God has no enemies ??
This is my faith Profile
There are 96 word fight and fight and the other calls for jihad
There are other teachings in the Koran against humanity
Islam attacked Christianity and Judaism
And idolaters
And also atheists
Is this a good education ?
2. Do the words in the book of Christians attacking Islam ??
3 Are Jews in the book 's teachings are attacking Islam ??
4. Is the Buddha declares fighting on the world , as did Muhammad ??
5. Here are the words of the famous Mohammed
Says Mohammed ( God commanded me to fight the people ??
Until they say there is no god but Allah and Muhammad ?? ?????? )
6. Are there any in the world has such words ???
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Not better, no. But I wouldn't say intrinsically worse, especially if you compare like with like. It's not fair to compare Libya or Iraq to a far-more-settled country like the UK or Belgium. It's fairer to compare it to Christian countries in Sub-Saharan Africa which are going through tough times. 'Morality' is probably similar in Chad and the Central African Republic, even though one's mostly Muslim and the other mostly Christian.
Correct morality appear when there is a freedom ??
Islamic countries do not know the intellectual freedom
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Thank you -
Any book , education or school calls for fighting
Is invalid?
God does not call for a fight ??
God has no enemies ??
This is my faith Profile
There are 96 word fight and fight and the other calls for jihad
There are other teachings in the Koran against humanity
Islam attacked Christianity and Judaism
And idolaters
And also atheists
Is this a good education ?

Islam has never attacked Jews or Christians. Some Muslims have.

2. Do the words in the book of Christians attacking Islam ??

Islam didn't exist when the Bible was written.

3 Are Jews in the book 's teachings are attacking Islam ??

Nor the Torah.

4. Is the Buddha declares fighting on the world , as did Muhammad ??

The Buddha did not advocate violence, but Muhammad didn't advocate wholesale violence either.

5. Here are the words of the famous Mohammed
Says Mohammed ( God commanded me to fight the people ??
Until they say there is no god but Allah and Muhammad ?? ?????? )
6. Are there any in the world has such words ???

The context of this would be very useful. Can you say which ayah this is from?
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
What's an Islamic country? An absurd term, as it groups Indonesia and Turkey in with Saudi Arabia and Iran.
Islamic states
Which is based on Islamic sharia law in laws
They do not recognize that in other laws
All the constitutions of Islamic countries say that Islam is the first source in laws
Each law is not consistent with Islam is not recognized in Muslim countries
A conference of Islamic countries
 

Kirran

Premium Member
Islamic states
Which is based on Islamic sharia law in laws
They do not recognize that in other laws
All the constitutions of Islamic countries say that Islam is the first source in laws
Each law is not consistent with Islam is not recognized in Muslim countries
A conference of Islamic countries

Show me the book of Sharia Law. You know, that big book in which all the Sharia Laws are laid down, making all explicitly Islamic legal systems the same.

And there are Muslim-majority countries where Sharia law isn't even part of the legal system. Turkey, Mali, Chad, Niger, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, parts of Indonesia etc
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Show me the book of Sharia Law. You know, that big book in which all the Sharia Laws are laid down, making all explicitly Islamic legal systems the same.

And there are Muslim-majority countries where Sharia law isn't even part of the legal system. Turkey, Mali, Chad, Niger, Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, parts of Indonesia etc
That's right
Some Muslim countries do not declare this in their constitutions for political reasons
But in fact apply Islamic sharia law in all its details
Turkey is one of the most punctual in Islam
But you want to show the world that it is a secular state until you get to EU membership
Since Erdogan came to power also came with Islamists

And offer you an example of this paradox
Muslim countries recognize the human rights principles
But Islam does not recognize in these principles
Indonesia do not know much about it
But I know that East Timor declared its separation because they do not want Islamic law
For this reason, declared secession and became a state
I do not know whether Christian or otherwise
South Sudan declared its split because he does not want to be governed by Islamic law
 

Kirran

Premium Member
That's right
Some Muslim countries do not declare this in their constitutions for political reasons
But in fact apply Islamic sharia law in all its details
Turkey is one of the most punctual in Islam
But you want to show the world that it is a secular state until you get to EU membership
Since Erdogan came to power also came with Islamists

And offer you an example of this paradox
Muslim countries recognize the human rights principles
But Islam does not recognize in these principles
Indonesia do not know much about it
But I know that East Timor declared its separation because they do not want Islamic law
For this reason, declared secession and became a state
I do not know whether Christian or otherwise
South Sudan declared its split because he does not want to be governed by Islamic law

This a combination of conspiracy theories and tarring 1.6 billion people with the same brush.

I think it would be helpful for you to drop the preconceptions, and actually go out and meet some Muslims in the real world.
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
This a combination of conspiracy theories and tarring 1.6 billion people with the same brush.

I think it would be helpful for you to drop the preconceptions, and actually go out and meet some Muslims in the real world.

He's from Iraq ;)
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
I'll admit to being surprised. @mahasn ebn sawresho I retract that part of my statement.

It's easy to miss because it's so rare. Sadly him and so many others didn't even have a choice to not be educated on Islam. Compared to most Muslims in the U.S. there's no competition in how much has been pounded in. People generally mistake the negative stance and strong words for lack of info.
 
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