Belief in a sole creator God enables a lot of other, unadvisable beliefs.
It doesn't always happen, but it can be quite ugly.
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Why be muslim?
- Thread starter Toxikmynd
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Belief in a sole creator God enables a lot of other, unadvisable beliefs.
It doesn't always happen, but it can be quite ugly.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
Not at all, we are simply firm in our beliefs. Whether that bothers you or someone else that's a different story, has nothing to do with Muslims.
No, it doesn't, not explicitly. But I understand there are Muslims who think that must be what was meant, as it fits in better with scientific findings.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
No I meant that if someone has a problem with our beliefs it doesn't make us arrogant or what not. If he or someone else dislikes what we believe then that's his problem.
You know, you just provided superb evidence for the claim you attempted to deny.
Thanks, I guess.
Gharib
I want Khilafah back
If that's how you see it then you are welcome, I guess.
It most definitely and emphatically is how I see it.
Looncall
Well-Known Member
Perhaps.
I still wonder what muslims are to do when their beliefs are irrefutably contradicted.
I see the chief danger of islam to be the outsourcing of their thinking to their religion, including moral thinking. It relieves people of responsibility for their actions.
Any examples?
To be honest, I reckon for the most part such information would be rejected anyway - Qur'an comes first as a source for knowledge.
Yeah, I get what you're saying entirely. I do think a greater tradition of free thinking in Islam would be healthy. But to many Muslims, any questioning of the literal Word of God is unthinkable.
Apparently we can't consider Muslims to be a monolithic group except when they decide it would serve them. So, for example, we hear over and over again about how a particular action "offends 1.6 billion Muslims". Or when we hear that all Muslims consider key points of Islam perfect and immutable. This is, as they say. playing tennis without the net.
Would you agree that the Quran teaches contempt for other religions?
Only when it is proselitist or, at least, judgmental of other people. Sikhs seem to be fine.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
If that is the case it pretty well nullifies Islams fanciful notion that Islam has been around since the dawn of mankind.
While it is true that we cannot say what our earliest ancestors truly believed, the earliest evidence we have found indicates that they worshiped a divine goddess, a rather portly female earth goddess. Based on the evidence, paganism is the original religion, not Islam.
Fair enough. I suppose it is hard to find an actual group that lives up to high ideals.
Well, it's a belief that's firmly grounded in fact.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
But when we have to start looking over our shoulder to see if we have unwittingly insulted a Muslim, that is a very real problem that has everything to do with Muslims. If it was not for the inherent arrogance of Islam, we wouldn't be discussing these problems. Islam is a supremacist replacement theology.
Treks
Well-Known Member
*whispers* Sikhs aren't actually monotheists, that's why.
