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Why be muslim?

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Muslims say they unite religion and one God ?
Is that so ??
I say no ??
The reason is the following guide
1. Terms of the Islamic faith
Is that he believes in God but
Allah
2. that Muhammad is the messenger of God ??
3. If you do not believe that Muhammad is the Messenger of God
Your faith in God , the void
4. Do you think that this unification in God
Or is Mohammed involvement with God
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
yes because I don't really know what is right, and there is so much out there that is telling me that I should be this or that, so I just be what I am, or at least I try to be lol.
Allow me to put the most important criterion
To find out the validity of any religious education
This measurement or standard is ( love )
Any religion guides you to teach love and peace is to teach favor
Wi education teach that God is not love , or is the enemy of man is to teach void
The Koran is not the word of love and clear
That is why I am educated considered invalid according to this measurement or standard
 

Sabour

Well-Known Member
Why be a muslim when there are religions that predate Islam?

According to Islam, the last prophet is Muhammad peace be upon him and Quraan is the Word of God.

According to the Quraan,

3:19 Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them - out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account.

If that is was proved to be true, why would one not be a muslim ?
 

Toxikmynd

Demir
According to Islam, the last prophet is Muhammad peace be upon him and Quraan is the Word of God.

According to the Quraan,

3:19 Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them - out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account.

If that is was proved to be true, why would one not be a muslim ?

But truthfully how do you know Abrahamic religions are true?
 

Treks

Well-Known Member
According to Islam, the last prophet is Muhammad peace be upon him and Quraan is the Word of God.

According to the Quraan,

3:19 Indeed, the religion in the sight of Allah is Islam. And those who were given the Scripture did not differ except after knowledge had come to them - out of jealous animosity between themselves. And whoever disbelieves in the verses of Allah , then indeed, Allah is swift in [taking] account.

If that is was proved to be true, why would one not be a muslim ?

When a religion employs the (dirty) tactic of threats, it makes me sad, and just gives the impression that it is desperate to pressure people into converting, or holding on to the people it already has with fear of punishment.

I much prefer Rabia Basri's attitude:

"O God! If I worship You for fear of Hell, burn me in Hell,and if I worship You in hope of Paradise, exclude me from Paradise.
But if I worship You for Your Own sake, grudge me not Your everlasting Beauty.”
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
But truthfully how do you know Abrahamic religions are true?

At best, any set of beliefs or religion can only be subjectively true. And that which resonates with said believer, which is why someone will be a Muslim, or a Catholic, or a Mormon, or a Buddhist, etc...

(and sometimes, one is indoctrinated from childhood, and he/she doesn't have much of a choice in the matter...that happens too)
 

Kirran

Premium Member
When a religion employs the (dirty) tactic of threats, it makes me sad, and just gives the impression that it is desperate to pressure people into converting, or holding on to the people it already has with fear of punishment.

I much prefer Rabia Basri's attitude:

That is an absolutely fantastic quote.
 

Zulk-Dharma

Member
At best, any set of beliefs or religion can only be subjectively true. And that which resonates with said believer, which is why someone will be a Muslim, or a Catholic, or a Mormon, or a Buddhist, etc...

(and sometimes, one is indoctrinated from childhood, and he/she doesn't have much of a choice in the matter...that happens too)

Reza Aslan says it perfectly, while I do disagree with him about atheism. He is correct on all other aspects.
 

Zulk-Dharma

Member
It's hard to explain, he says a lot. I was quoting on the part that he says the word "truth" as we know it today is different from how the ancients used the word, that truth is subjective and not what is testable proven, scientific factual, something like that.
 

Kirran

Premium Member
It's hard to explain, he says a lot. I was quoting on the part that he says the word "truth" as we know it today is different from how the ancients used the word, that truth is subjective and not what is testable proven, scientific factual, something like that.

That was a good video man, thankyou.
 

Zulk-Dharma

Member
Fine, it's a very thought-provoking discussion. A very intellectual debate on whether Humans need religion in the future or not.

Reza argues that we still will.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Allow me to put the most important criterion
To find out the validity of any religious education
This measurement or standard is ( love )
Any religion guides you to teach love and peace is to teach favor
Wi education teach that God is not love , or is the enemy of man is to teach void
The Koran is not the word of love and clear
That is why I am educated considered invalid according to this measurement or standard
Well the bible is not all love either, that's for sure.
 
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