Why be muslim?

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

That's the problem, you call yourself a Christian, and by that you lock yourself into that belief system, just take a closer look, and you will find the answers.

No , my friend, I am not of this type
I am open mentally
Christianity is not a closed system
Christ's words is the proof
Of the most important words of Christ love
An amendment to the Ten Commandments
To this he added the word to the first commandment

 

[morphesium]

Why be a muslim when there are religions that predate Islam?

Never be a Muslim

% Contribution of Muslims to world population = 23%
% Contribution of (world) terrorism by Muslims = 95%

In other words, 77% of non-Muslims contribute to 5% of world terrorism (this includes terrorism due to politics).

So on an average, Islamic preaching makes a person 65 times more prone to be violent than an average non Muslim.

The Islamic scholars may say that they never understood "true" ISLAM, but since people end up to be more violent because of (being )ISLAM than without ISLAM, - it is just a lie to hide the truth. Moreover, a percentage of the Zakat money is used to fund terrorism around the world.

So, despite this high rate of violence, how does Islam appears peaceful; kind of candy coating- They fund the press to write for them, make interviews that emphasis Islam is peaceful, fund the politics to make law for them - making the world much more ambient for them to grow.

ISLAM is a ticking time bomb.

When the rate of growth of population of other religions is stabilizing or even decreasing - the population is of Muslims is exponentially increasing. They use all possible strategy to increase Muslim population in a population where Muslims are minority.

ISLAM is the most intolerant religion in the world.

Once, the Muslim population gains a upper hand - they will legalize slavery, child marriage etc, and will start to eliminate people in other religions before starting to fight among themselves. They are destined to throw humanity to dark ages to the living conditions that prevailed during the times of Prophet Mohammed (approximately 1400 AD or back).

It took Christianity 1800 years to refine itself. But since Islamic preachings and rituals are implemented much more systematically and frequently - it is much more effective at suppressing free thought. So how many years will it take to refine ISLAM? - or will it ever?

God speak to us through our sense of morality, the sense of being/doing right. Morale has an inherent nature to improve itself. That is the reason why societies improve morally over time - Most of the societies have abolished slavery, torture, child labor etc - which was something once prevalent in almost all societies . For the muslims, their laws are written 1400 years back - and it is destined to keep it as such, never to improve, never to refine.
and this is the reason why their laws still permit stoning to death, torturing etc.

Never be a mulsim. Just believe that the god speak to you through your morale. not through those holy books. one is closer to god without religion than with religion. and this is what true god desires.

 

[psychoslice]

No , my friend, I am not of this type
I am open mentally
Christianity is not a closed system
Christ's words is the proof
Of the most important words of Christ love
An amendment to the Ten Commandments
To this he added the word to the first commandment

See, that's what I am saying, you are locked in your beliefs, no matter how wonderful they sound.

 

[Treks]

Omg talk about pots and kettles.

 

[psychoslice]

Omg talk about pots and kettles.

What are you, the pot or the kettle ?.

 

[Treks]

Neither, I was comparing Muslims to Christians *ducks from forum wrath*

 

[psychoslice]

Neither, I was comparing Muslims to Christians *ducks from forum wrath*

So, how do you compare them, and why ?.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

See, that's what I am saying, you are locked in your beliefs, no matter how wonderful they sound.
Every ideology intellectual bearing teachings
This is the most important teachings of Christianity intellectually
Do you think that education is invalid

 

[Treks]

So, how do you compare them, and why ?.

They are both Abrahamic religions with commands to kill other people in their scriptures.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

This dialogue ideas
Provided some of the teachings of Islam, which calls for hatred
That you want to discuss Welcome
Christianity can not be compared with Islam
Because he can not combine the evil in Islam
And goodness in Christianity
They are different

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

They are both Abrahamic religions with commands to kill other people in their scriptures.

Ibrahim did not establish any religion
Ibrahim said the idea of a humanitarian one
Ibrahim said
That this universe is the creator of one
And one God
Abraham's children, the descendants of Sarah took up this idea to the world
They are Jews Hebrews
The bottom Jews teach that God loves humans
And love will be in his presence among humans
The Christian is from the womb of this development
But Islam is the only declare war on them
I hope that my words are clear and concise

 

[Smart_Guy]

Pots and cattle?

 

[Sabour]

Never be a Muslim

% Contribution of Muslims to world population = 23%
% Contribution of (world) terrorism by Muslims = 95%

In other words, 77% of non-Muslims contribute to 5% of world terrorism (this includes terrorism due to politics).

So on an average, Islamic preaching makes a person 65 times more prone to be violent than an average non Muslim.

The Islamic scholars may say that they never understood "true" ISLAM, but since people end up to be more violent because of (being )ISLAM than without ISLAM, - it is just a lie to hide the truth. Moreover, a percentage of the Zakat money is used to fund terrorism around the world.

So, despite this high rate of violence, how does Islam appears peaceful; kind of candy coating- They fund the press to write for them, make interviews that emphasis Islam is peaceful, fund the politics to make law for them - making the world much more ambient for them to grow.

ISLAM is a ticking time bomb.

When the rate of growth of population of other religions is stabilizing or even decreasing - the population is of Muslims is exponentially increasing. They use all possible strategy to increase Muslim population in a population where Muslims are minority.

ISLAM is the most intolerant religion in the world.

Once, the Muslim population gains a upper hand - they will legalize slavery, child marriage etc, and will start to eliminate people in other religions before starting to fight among themselves. They are destined to throw humanity to dark ages to the living conditions that prevailed during the times of Prophet Mohammed (approximately 1400 AD or back).

It took Christianity 1800 years to refine itself. But since Islamic preachings and rituals are implemented much more systematically and frequently - it is much more effective at suppressing free thought. So how many years will it take to refine ISLAM? - or will it ever?

God speak to us through our sense of morality, the sense of being/doing right. Morale has an inherent nature to improve itself. That is the reason why societies improve morally over time - Most of the societies have abolished slavery, torture, child labor etc - which was something once prevalent in almost all societies . For the muslims, their laws are written 1400 years back - and it is destined to keep it as such, never to improve, never to refine.
and this is the reason why their laws still permit stoning to death, torturing etc.

Never be a mulsim. Just believe that the god speak to you through your morale. not through those holy books. one is closer to god without religion than with religion. and this is what true god desires.

You need to look from a different source.

I advise you to read the life of the prophet, I mean the whole book from an Islamic source, not bits of it. I hope you do this and than read from Islamic sources how a true muslim should be.

By your post, you are not defining Islam, you are defining terrorism, and terrorism is not Islam.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

to one answer
islam is the schooler of terror
this is from koran teaching
and koran veres
this verese in arabic
واعدوا لهم ما استطتم من قوة ورباط الخيل ترهبون به عدو الله وعدوكم
devloped the principles them what you can of power to terrorize
your anemy and the god anemy ????

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Pots and cattle?

paul of camels and wings of flies is effective medication in islam
??/
i think that ??
what your idea about this ??

 

[Toxikmynd]

If Islam is bad, nobody has read the Old Testament/Tanakh

 

[Smart_Guy]

to one answer
islam is the schooler of terror
this is from koran teaching
and koran veres
this verese in arabic
واعدوا لهم ما استطتم من قوة ورباط الخيل ترهبون به عدو الله وعدوكم
devloped the principles them what you can of power to terrorize
your anemy and the god anemy ????

You know Arabic. This verse clearly means that we should prepare ourselves against the enemy, whoever they are. Isn't this what every single country in this world is doing now? Or is it bad because the Quran says it but it is okay because the countries do it to be ready to protect their people? You know also that the purpose here is not to terrorize, but to have a power feared to tamper with by the enemy. "Prepare" is the key word here, not terrorize. Take it easy bro. Or are you happy for the victims of I S I S (I apologize for this harsh example, but I need to convey my point clearly)? If those victims prepared the power and followed the verse, they might have had a chance against the lowlife I S I S. At least to protect themselves, not to push them back. Life is not perfect. You must balance yourself.

 

[Smart_Guy]

paul of camels and wings of flies is effective medication in islam
??/
i think that ??
what your idea about this ??

Um, forgive my ignorance, but I don't get your point. I word-played what Treks said in her post:

Omg talk about pots and kettles.

You need to loosen up a little bro. Life is not just about delivering attacks at others. Try to be friendly to people from time to time instead of being 100% in the offensive. That post of mine above was clearly a joke!

I'm not your enemy. Please consider taking my advices from time to time. I care for you.

 

[morphesium]

You know Arabic. This verse clearly means that we should prepare ourselves against the enemy, whoever they are. Isn't this what every single country in this world is doing now? Or is it bad because the Quran says it but it is okay because the countries do it to be ready to protect their people? You know also that the purpose here is not to terrorize, but to have a power feared to tamper with by the enemy. "Prepare" is the key word here, not terrorize. Take it easy bro. Or are you happy for the victims of I S I S (I apologize for this harsh example, but I need to convey my point clearly)? If those victims prepared the power and followed the verse, they might have had a chance against the lowlife I S I S. At least to protect themselves, not to push them back. Life is not perfect. You must balance yourself.

I respect your concern for those victims. Just like you, i am also deeply upset with the acts of ISIS. Personally, I don’t keep any kind of weapons and I am not willing to posses any of them. (ah! Yes my kitchen knives – I use them as a kind of tool not as weapons , just like everyone else.) It is quite peaceful over here. If some kind of extreme elements (similar to ISIS) happen attack us with machine guns, I am sure people like me will suffer the same - just like the other victims of ISIS.

What I am saying is this – a (peaceful) society won’t prepare effectively under peaceful conditions. It is very vulnerable to attacks. Had our society been one which was under constant threat (something I don’t wish for), then people would be more prepared. But again, the attackers - with so much powerful and advanced guns and a stubborn will to massacre innocent lives which they consider as a holy act, not many societies can withstand their attacks.

 

[Smart_Guy]

I respect your concern for those victims. Just like you, i am also deeply upset with the acts of ISIS. Personally, I don’t keep any kind of weapons and I am not willing to posses any of them. (ah! Yes my kitchen knives – I use them as a kind of tool not as weapons , just like everyone else.) It is quite peaceful over here. If some kind of extreme elements (similar to ISIS) happen attack us with machine guns, I am sure people like me will suffer the same - just like the other victims of ISIS.

What I am saying is this – a (peaceful) society won’t prepare effectively under peaceful conditions. It is very vulnerable to attacks. Had our society been one which was under constant threat (something I don’t wish for), then people would be more prepared. But again, the attackers - with so much powerful and advanced guns and a stubborn will to massacre innocent lives which they consider as a holy act, not many societies can withstand their attacks.

You are absolutely right, kind Sir.

Even in Islam, such preparations as the one I explained in the verse, is not for common civil peaceful people like yourself and me. It is for the ones in charge and the officials, and even the defensive party responsible for the safety of the people under them only. I too don't have any kind of weapons nor any single person in my family or the people around me, except those part of the force carrying their tools as part of their duty and it is never loaded (now they retired and there was only two of them). Carrying weapons is actually not allowed here without heavy official documentations under very strict rules. I believe in USA the restrictions aren't that serious, but that's another story.

Also, sometimes, if not most of the time, going down fighting even with the high possibility of being overtaken by the enemy, gives one that hope and feeling strong of doing what they have to do to protect themselves and the ones they love. If one day I feel that an evil force like I S I S is penetrating the defense lines of my country causing the possibility to reach me and my loved ones, I'd consider preparing myself with the weapons I could need to do that. Something I hope never happens to me or to other peaceful people such as yourself. Even secular communities came up with the saying "desperate times call for desperate measures." The desperate measure here for me is following the verse as a civilian. There is also that funny saying "over my dead body"

Life is ugly as much as it is beautiful. We need to live peacefully, yet be prepared for anything when we feel could happen.