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Why can't god reveal himself?

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There's still the problem of discerning whether this supposed "god" is really a supreme being.
Advanced technology & deception could mimic godliness.
 

Super Universe

Defender of God
If he did, no one would be skeptical anymore, right?

If you are God then you know everything. It's boring. So you create a realistic life game and then fragment yourself into that game, each piece not knowing who you really are. Then you can evolve and learn about the wonders of the universe, all the while not remembering that you created it.
 

Draka

Wonder Woman
I think my Sims may wonder why certain karma powers happen to them and just what the source of their fate is, but as of yet I haven't made myself known to them. I just enjoy playing the game.
 

Marble

Rolling Marble
Perhaps he doesn't in order to allow not to believe in him.
When everyone would see God, free will would be meaningless.
 

lamplighter

Almighty Tallest
'I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'

So if god revealed himself, people would know he existed not needing faith, and he would then promptly vanish due to his own logic. Because without faith he couldn't exist.
 

robo

Active Member
If he did, no one would be skeptical anymore, right?

Life is a test.

If God revealed himself, we would all KNOW in God. No, no, no...that would never do.

The whole point of life is to believe in him even though there is no evidence. If you do that, then you go to heaven. Else hellfire. Both for an eternity.
 
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Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
'I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
So if god revealed himself, people would know he existed not needing faith, and he would then promptly vanish due to his own logic. Because without faith he couldn't exist.
I bet you read Oolon Colluphid!
 

Sir Doom

Cooler than most of you
I could only answer this question by rattling on about my own particular concept of god, which is, unfortunately, completely fabricated to satisfy my own particular desires and isn't meant for public consumption. If anyone really cares, I'll elaborate but I highly doubt anyone is interested in my silly mythology so I'll just give the most basic reasoning.

If god revealed itself to us, other gods would smash our god into oblivion for cheating.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
'I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'

So if god revealed himself, people would know he existed not needing faith, and he would then promptly vanish due to his own logic. Because without faith he couldn't exist.


Wow! I was with you until the second paragraph. It strikes me that your own logic is questionable..............
 

lamplighter

Almighty Tallest
Wow! I was with you until the second paragraph. It strikes me that your own logic is questionable..............

That was a nod Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

"The argument goes something like this: 'I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
"'But,' says Man, 'the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
"'Oh dear,' says God, 'I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
If he did, no one would be skeptical anymore, right?

We can see god by his signs which revealed around us,but we need faith to believe that he do exist,otherwise we will think about other reasons for such signs.

He isn't kind of human,not similar by any means to any of all his creations.

Something about inner feelings,you may see someone showing you his love and hearing you nice words,but actually he is a lier and only your inner feelings
may show you that he is fake,you may say i feel he is a lier,that feeling is kind of faith.

So in few words,we can know god by faith,and not by our 2 eyes.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
That was a nod Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

"The argument goes something like this: 'I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
"'But,' says Man, 'the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
"'Oh dear,' says God, 'I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly vanishes in a puff of logic.

The false premise is that "without faith I am nothing." God always is whether there is faith or not.
 

Shuddhasattva

Well-Known Member
Too many assumptions as to God's nature are made here.

1. Are we sure that God doesn't reveal herself?

2. Are we sure that God has a particular reason for making himself known to people? Do we think that God has a need to be worshiped?

God does reveal himself to those deserving of her grace, it has to be worked for.
 

apophenia

Well-Known Member
There's still the problem of discerning whether this supposed "god" is really a supreme being.
Advanced technology & deception could mimic godliness.

The Order of the Solar Temple were experimenting with exactly that. They used a combo of LSD and holographic projections on the flock. Same old dance in brand new drag.
 
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