Why can't Muslims criticize Islam

[FearGod]

That's interesting, I note one of them was tortured to death too.

Who?

 

[FearGod]

It is more than one man’s opinion, this man explains.

Is Jihad different than nowadays Armies, why the world are spending a lot of money in war machines,
Does the world follow the words of God?

 

[FearGod]

Saudi Arabia has declared that atheists are terrorists. It's considered an a front to god for Christians and Allah for Muslims. It exists, but it is not tolerated well.

Islam isn't a country.

 

[Ellen Brown]

Unfortunately, that seems to sum up the problem that we have with the Islamic ideology.

If only Muslims are allowed to criticise Islam, which I do not believe they are, why should Islam expect non-Muslims to submit to Islam.

One of my most harsh criticisms of Islam is that many think they are the only true religion. I call BS on that.

 

[FearGod]

One of my most harsh criticisms of Islam is that many think they are the only true religion. I call BS on that.

What if it's?, either all are correct or one is correct.

 

[Ellen Brown]

What if it's?, either all are correct or one is correct.

OK

 

[England my lionheart]

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Who?

Ibn Al maqqafa

 

[England my lionheart]

If the hadith contradicts the quran then it should be regarded as false.

Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah hath grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold, that never breaks. And Allah heareth and knoweth all things.(2:256)

The Quran was orally transmitted until it was written down maybe 200 hundred years after Muhammed death but how do you explain the Sahih hadith by Abu Baker?, does that mean Muhammed purposely contradicted the quran or Bakr lied.

 

[sun rise]

There is only so far one can get away from the Qur'an while still being a Muslim.

It's about interpretation not distance.

its ambiguous verses will always cause problems Imo.

And the exegesis of the verses. And the problem of translation.

Christianity and Islaam are indeed unlike in that respect.

The Inquisition and the Wahhabi actions differ in technology and theological formulations not in psychology.

American Christianity is largely infested with zanny, feel good theology, though many people I talk to insist that it is time for a Reformation here.

I find that true of prosperity gospel which treats God as a piñata.

Nothing changes in Islam.

That is complete ignorance of history. It ignores, for example, the growth of Wahhabism and everything else that's happened.

The Quran, Sira, and Hadith are the complete package. You can’t have one without the others.

So this organization does not exist and neither does their beliefs according to you. The Misconception of following Hadith and Sunna (sayings and practices traditionally and falsely attributed to Prophet Muhammad) | Submission.org - Your best source for Submission (Islam)

Does the world follow the words of God?

Maybe someday but not the words everyone argues about but of the true Word which lives in every heart.

 

[England my lionheart]

And the exegesis of the verses. And the problem of translation.

From a clear message sent down yet not clear at all.

 

[Cooky]

That doesn't seem to stop Christians in the West from going so far away from the Bible they've never read it and still claim themselves as Christian - and this is in face of some of the same and similar dire warnings the Quran issues of such things.

Anyone who relies on books for their faith, over and over and over... is a fool, IMO. I never read the bible... But of course. I'm not a Christian. I'm Roman Catholic.

 

[LuisDantas]

Disbelievers and believers always exist.

Indeed - at least since the creation of god-concepts, that is.

But it is not always that a doctrine actually proposes killing disbelievers, and Islaam is probably the only surviving specimen that does so at its core while also being widely mistaken for an actual religion.

 

[LuisDantas]

What if it's?, either all are correct or one is correct.

Actually, that is a common mistake, but very much a mistake.

Most religions can in fact coexist without even trying to decide whether any of them qualifies as "correct" at the expense of the others.

Islaam and to a considerably lesser extent Christianity like to bet on their connections to the "one true God" and to decide that other god-concepts are flat out mistaken. For that reason - and perhaps that reason alone - those two doctrines see fit to talk about "incorrect" religions.

 

[Notanumber]

That is complete ignorance of history. It ignores, for example, the growth of Wahhabism and everything else that's happened.

How much more oppressive is Wahhabism than Sharia Law?

What else has happened?

 

[Ellen Brown]

How much more oppressive is Wahhabism than Sharia Law?

What else has happened?

They are two different things. It is not worth converting to Islam to figure it out.

 

[KT Shamim]

The author of the article grew up in Muslim majority societies and moved to “the West”, where he thought he could work to reform Islam. Instead he found many strong forces in “the West” - while open to criticizing other religions - are not open to having Islam criticized. Nicely written…

Why Can't I Criticize My Religion?

Criticism is a strong word ... how about "why can't I ask for the wisdom behind my religion's teachings". That's a valid question that must be and very much is permitted ... rather ... encouraged by Islam and the Qur'an. But not by scholars because the scholars are like donkeys carrying books. No idea what they carry. Muslims need reform back towards Islam.

Does Islam need reform? No, because religion is God teaching humans ... not the other way around.

If the claim is that the Qur'an is the uncorrupted literal word of God ... and that is the claim of Muslims as stated in the Qur'an ... (a claim seconded by empirical evidence) ... then evolution of the Qur'an (i.e. the religion) is not an option.

There is however a lot of room for bringing people back to the origin ...

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Islam isn't a country.

No, but it still stands that both Christians and Muslims aren't the most warm towards atheists. Whether they are called terrorists, claimed they can't be citizens, that they are immoral, or looked upon as aliens from another planet, Christians and Muslims don't have a very good history at treating those who have eschewed religion and god.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Anyone who relies on books for their faith, over and over and over... is a fool, IMO. I never read the bible... But of course. I'm not a Christian. I'm Roman Catholic.

Catholicism is the first denomination of Christianity and today is the largest denomination of Christianity.

 

[Notanumber]

They are two different things. It is not worth converting to Islam to figure it out.

If Islam gets its way and I was a person of the book, I would have to convert or become a Dhimmi.

However oppressive that would be, as an Atheist, things do not look that ‘good’.

Living under sharia - Dhimmi - Islam and Western Civilisation

 

[Notanumber]

Criticism is a strong word ... how about "why can't I ask for the wisdom behind my religion's teachings". That's a valid question that must be and very much is permitted ... rather ... encouraged by Islam and the Qur'an. But not by scholars because the scholars are like donkeys carrying books. No idea what they carry. Muslims need reform back towards Islam.

Does Islam need reform? No, because religion is God teaching humans ... not the other way around.

If the claim is that the Qur'an is the uncorrupted literal word of God ... and that is the claim of Muslims as stated in the Qur'an ... (a claim seconded by empirical evidence) ... then evolution of the Qur'an (i.e. the religion) is not an option.

There is however a lot of room for bringing people back to the origin ...

That more or less backs up what the professor says in the video.