Why Can't People Accept Other Views?

[kai]

It is a natural reaction I guess. Intolerance breeds intolerance, just like anger breeds anger and so on.

I wasn't intolerant , we used to discuss religion but but all of a sudden he could not discuss just preach and give me sermons quoting the bible parrot like.
I do similar if someone is trying to shove their religion or views down my throat, or seems to "get off" by instigating arguments with me over it, just itchin to "get me" on something. I tend to end up being worse to them than they are being to me. Not feeding it seems to be best.

Answering the door with one of my snakes around my neck has politely done the trick before though. Tons and tons of people here still take the Bible literaly as saying that snakes are the devil.

*Praises for you maintaining the friendship*

unfortunately i tend to avoid him as there is only one topic of conversation now, he lets the bible fall open every morning and finds a passage on the page which somehow gives him a direction for the day, he also asks for and receives actual responses from God himself.

the bible was actually written by God , and i once tried to get him to look at the history of the bible , his response was to exorcize me by e-mail. lol. I shouldn't laugh but if you didn't laugh you would cry.

 

[UnTheist]

because acceptance does not mean you automaticly tolerate them

What do you mean by acceptance, then?

 

[YmirGF]

Although I have no problem with accepting people's inalienable right to believe in whatever nonesense they wish, it is somewhat naive to expect me to respect the thinking itself. Are people seriously accepting of Charles Manson's beliefs or is the idea just meaning that we should respect his right to believe whatever ludicrious drivel he wishes and call it a a day?

 

[Truth_Faith13]

Although I have no problem with accepting people's inalienable right to believe in whatever nonesense they wish, it is somewhat naive to expect me to respect the thinking itself. Are people seriously accepting of Charles Manson's beliefs or is the idea just meaning that we should respect his right to believe whatever ludicrious drivel he wishes and call it a a day?

I don't think any should have to respect his right to believe whatever ludicrious drivel he wishes because it brought harm to others.

I think people should respect others right to believe in what they want provided their believes do not bring harm to others. It can be as ludicrous as they want! Hey, I believe in Santa, the easter bunny and the fairies. But what harm is that doing to others?? (other than my parents of me prancing around on xmas morning )

 

[Truth_Faith13]

The other thing to bear in mind is if people accepted each others views, there would a) only be one religion if any at all! b) either forums like this wouldn't exist or they would be very boring! c) we would all be robots!

 

[madcap]

What's really unfortunate is when people believe they (or more likely their children) will be corrupted by being exposed to dissenting viewpoints. I'll admit, there is a point at which a person loses credibility in my eyes, and I don't want to waste time on them anymore. But civility goes a long way, at least to start.

Listening to an opposing point of view can be unpleasant, difficult work.

 

[DarkSun]

Why should I accept someone's views if I find them repugnant and stupid?

You find love, compassion and caring for others repugnant? Well that's stupid.

And even if someone's views were what you'd consider to be invalid, wouldn't it be the kindest thing to do, to accept that they believe this and not let it phase you?

 

[DarkSun]

Jesus is quoted many times as saying, "You have heard it said...but I tell you..."
Jesus loved every one, but did not accept all points of view.

*Shakes head.*

You mean around Matt 5: 38-44, right?

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you...

Christ was speaking out against the innaceptance of other people in that scripture, no matter what wrong you have percieved them to have committed. That is exactly the opposite of calling someone's view "stupid" or "mindless" instead of accepting its equal validity and turning the other cheek.

The parable of the Good Samaritan and that time where Jesus talks with a Samaritan women at a well also highlights the need for acceptance of other cultures.

 

[DarkSun]

The other thing to bear in mind is if people accepted each others views, there would a) only be one religion if any at all! b) either forums like this wouldn't exist or they would be very boring! c) we would all be robots!

There's a fine line between agreeance and acceptance.

 

[StripperClown]

I'm accepting of whatever as long as it's not being forced upon me and shoved down my throat.

 

[gnomon]

Acceptance does not equal love, compassion and caring. Love, compassion and caring equals love, compassion and caring.

It's better if people actually have some fundamental concept of the word before pretending that they know how to use it. To accept something is to grant a positive value of truth usually in regards to the status of an individual. It's an act of recognizing a statement as true.

I am an alcoholic. I have cancer. Statements with truth values. These are statements accepted or denied based upon the evidence.

Love, compassion and caring are completely separate terms with a different meaning.

It's better to not be so quick to accept but use reason. Its not an emotional response but a reasoned response.

I accept that people believe in opposing same sex marriage based upon the scripture they read. I do not tolerate their belief.

Know the difference.

 

[DarkSun]

Acceptance does not equal love, compassion and caring. Love, compassion and caring equals love, compassion and caring.

It's better if people actually have some fundamental concept of the word before pretending that they know how to use it. To accept something is to grant a positive value of truth usually in regards to the status of an individual. It's an act of recognizing a statement as true.

I am an alcoholic. I have cancer. Statements with truth values. These are statements accepted or denied based upon the evidence.

Love, compassion and caring are completely separate terms with a different meaning.

It's better to not be so quick to accept but use reason. Its not an emotional response but a reasoned response.

I accept that people believe in opposing same sex marriage based upon the scripture they read. I do not tolerate their belief.

Know the difference.

By "acceptance" I meant "toleration" it would seem. Sorry, it looks like I used the wrong word. I didn't realise that there were this many pedants on the RF. =P

As for the whole "same sex marriage" thing... what I fail to understand is why same-sex couples would want to be united by an organisation that openly persecutes them. If the marriage weren't done in a church or by a religious minister, then I would understand. But it would seem that some same sex couples would like equality to extend to the religious setting, just as a multitude of religious people find it repugnant and stupid for homosexuals to be married at all. Perhaps it would end a lot of conflict if each party were to be tolerable of the views of the others - even if they don't necessarily agree themselves - and agree to disagree before moving on.

 

[gnomon]

It would be dishonest of me to say that my "know the difference" comment should be directed at myself as much as anyone else.

I've made the mistake between tolerance and acceptance as well.

I also have no idea what the OP is about at this point. I've lost track.

As for the whole "same sex marriage" thing... what I fail to understand is why same-sex couples would want to be united by an organisation that openly persecutes them. If the marriage weren't done in a church or by a religious minister, then I would understand. It would end a lot of conflict if each party were to be tolerable of the views of the other - even if they don't necessarily agree themselves - and agree to disagree before moving on.

I know of no same-sex couples wanting to be united by an organization that persecutes them. There are numerous churches that will and have performed marriages for same-sex couples.

But I should not have brought that example to bear because such a case would set the thread off into entirely new directions.

Oh look..........a ninja.

 

[horizon_mj1]

I have asked myself the same question an inumerable amount of times. I find it very interesting to listen to other people's views and appriciate it. If one looks to the scientific community, a lot can be learned from listening to other views; we would not have the technologies we have if it were not from scientist studying another scientist's view, then perfecting it or learning from it. If you listen to someone else, you can either add to your own ideas, completely believe in everthing you are being told, or maybe even come up with an entirely different view. My question is why do people seem to get so offended if you have a different vantage point than they? Isn't this a kind of prejudice? I have taught my children to listen to other people's views as well. Just because you listen does not mean you have to agree. If you do not agree does not mean you have to be angry. If you in fact you get angry, why not think about why you are angry (that is if they anger is not constructed out of blatent rudeness on the other person's behalf).

 

[DarkSun]

I know of no same-sex couples wanting to be united by an organization that persecutes them. There are numerous churches that will and have performed marriages for same-sex couples.

But I should not have brought that example to bear because such a case would set the thread off into entirely new directions.

Oh look..........a ninja.

Oh look, a flying man-bear-pig! It's like, half human, half bear, half pig. ^___^

 

[DarkSun]

I have asked myself the same question an inumerable amount of times. I find it very interesting to listen to other people's views and appriciate it. If one looks to the scientific community, a lot can be learned from listening to other views; we would not have the technologies we have if it were not from scientist studying another scientist's view, then perfecting it or learning from it. If you listen to someone else, you can either add to your own ideas, completely believe in everthing you are being told, or maybe even come up with an entirely different view. My question is why do people seem to get so offended if you have a different vantage point than they? Isn't this a kind of prejudice? I have taught my children to listen to other people's views as well. Just because you listen does not mean you have to agree. If you do not agree does not mean you have to be angry. If you in fact you get angry, why not think about why you are angry (that is if they anger is not constructed out of blatent rudeness on the other person's behalf).

I understand where you're coming from completely. I really do wonder why so many people automatically label the views of another as "repugnant and stupid" instead of just "tolerating" their view. If you truly had faith in your own beliefs then nothing that another person says should cause offense - and yet it does.

And as you've said, knowledge is power. Having some vague comprehension of the views of others is never a bad thing - and oftentimes, it helps.

 

[S-word]

Quote...Why can't people accept others views?....DarkSun

It's my view that if you do not accept my view Ye shall burn forever in Hell where the worm never dieth. You do accept my view don't you?

 

[DarkSun]

Quote...Why can't people accept others views?....DarkSun

It's my view that if you do not accept my view Ye shall burn forever in Hell where the worm never dieth. You do accept my view don't you?

Yeah, sure, why not? But it would get rather annoying if I kept expressing that view every half hour, you're right. Maybe if we each learned to tolerate our disparate beliefs regarding Hell, we could get along much better.

 

[S-word]

Yeah, sure, why not? But it would get rather annoying if I kept expressing that view every half hour, you're right. Maybe if we each learned to tolerate our disparate beliefs regarding Hell, we could get along much better.

It is my view that if we accepted everyone elses veiws, our minds would be like refuse tips reaching to the heights of heaven, pervading the glorious kingdom with the stench of the putrid substances that had been gathered to our minds.

 

[DarkSun]

It is my view that if we accepted everyone elses veiws, our minds would be like refuse tips reaching to the heights of heaven, pervading the glorious kingdom with the stench of the putrid substances that had been gathered to our minds.

LOL

Well it is my humble view that your view is without a base. Now why don't we stop this idle banter and skip through the flower meadows beyond yonder river?