why can't we have a relationship with other men?

[AmbiguousGuy]

Did you expect something more profound?

I admit I still hope.

 

[averageJOE]

He did not say you could not do it. He said you should not do so. I can kill but I shouldn't. If you are saying you see nothing wrong with it. That it produces no negative effects then why does the blood bank ask you if you are a homosexual as one of their prohibitive requirements? Are you suggesting that your desire to do something makes that thing right? I do not understand the contention here.

Can you please define or give us an example of these "negative effects"?

 

[Orias]

I don't mean like doing orgies and wicked stuff like that. But why can't we make love to people of our gender. I don't get it. I am attracted to men.

I'm not stopping you, go for it. Just leave me out of it

 

[1robin]

Can you please define or give us an example of these "negative effects"?

People who practice homosexuality experience higher rates of many diseases, including:
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Hepatitis A, B and C
Gonorrhea
Syphilis
Gay Bowel syndrome
HIV/AIDS
Bacterial vaginosis
People who practice homosexuality have higher rates of:
Alcohol abuse
Drug abuse
Nicotine dependence
Depression
Suicide
Domestic violence (20 times more common than among heterosexuals)
Higher rates of child molestation*
(Nearly 1/3 of the child abuse cases are homosexual in nature, and homosexuals are only 3% of the population.)
Daughters of lesbian "parents" are more likely to engage in risky sexual behavior and experience the consequences of that behavior.
In areas in which homosexual marriage has become accepted (The Netherlands and areas of Scandinavia, for example), the fundamental building block of society--the family--has fallen apart. In some of these areas as many as 80% of the children are born outside of a family.
Children of homosexual "parents" do the worst in 9 of 13 acedemic categories when compared with both married heterosexual couples and cohabitating couples.
Homosexual behavior is linked with higher rates of promiscuity, physical disease, mental illness, substance abuse, child sexual abuse and domestic violence--all things that impact society negatively. Don't try to say homosexual behavior doesn't hurt society--it is a major force that tears down society and harms children.
Homosexuality Harms Society
* One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime
* Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7)
* Many homosexuals don't pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: "Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior" (16)
* Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the "gay bowel syndrome" (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27)
* 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13)
* 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11)
* Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands)
* 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20)
* Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities" (10)
* Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals" (10)
* 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10)
* Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, "Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person" (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality
* It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10)
* Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8)
* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8)
* 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8)
* Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8)
* The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8)
* Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8)
About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12).
Homosexuals prey on children.
* 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7)
* There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE."
* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molester (19)
* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)
* Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22)
* Because homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting "TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT" in their homosexual parades. A group called the "Lesbian Avengers" prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502263/posts

I will not comment further on this it has made me sick. I have never seen more lude and grotesque displays than at a gay parade. Many are not contempt to quietly practice it they wish to rebelliously flaunt it and do so in disgusting ways. Since there are over 3 million sites that contain the problems of homosexuality I can't fathom why the question was asked.

 

[1robin]

The same reasons why literacy tests where required for voting a long time after the slaves where freed.

What are you talking about. See post #307

 

[dgirl1986]

People who practice homosexuality experience higher rates of many diseases, including:
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Hepatitis A, B and C
Gonorrhea
Syphilis
Gay Bowel syndrome
HIV/AIDS
Bacterial vaginosis
People who practice homosexuality have higher rates of:
Alcohol abuse
Drug abuse
Nicotine dependence
Depression
Suicide
Domestic violence (20 times more common than among heterosexuals)
Higher rates of child molestation*
(Nearly 1/3 of the child abuse cases are homosexual in nature, and homosexuals are only 3% of the population.)
Daughters of lesbian "parents" are more likely to engage in risky sexual behavior and experience the consequences of that behavior.
In areas in which homosexual marriage has become accepted (The Netherlands and areas of Scandinavia, for example), the fundamental building block of society--the family--has fallen apart. In some of these areas as many as 80% of the children are born outside of a family.
Children of homosexual "parents" do the worst in 9 of 13 acedemic categories when compared with both married heterosexual couples and cohabitating couples.
Homosexual behavior is linked with higher rates of promiscuity, physical disease, mental illness, substance abuse, child sexual abuse and domestic violence--all things that impact society negatively. Don't try to say homosexual behavior doesn't hurt society--it is a major force that tears down society and harms children.
Homosexuality Harms Society
* One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime
* Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7)
* Many homosexuals don't pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: "Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior" (16)
* Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the "gay bowel syndrome" (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27)
* 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13)
* 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11)
* Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands)
* 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20)
* Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities" (10)
* Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals" (10)
* 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10)
* Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, "Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person" (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality
* It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10)
* Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8)
* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8)
* 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8)
* Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8)
* The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8)
* Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8)
About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12).
Homosexuals prey on children.
* 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7)
* There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE."
* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molester (19)
* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)
* Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22)
* Because homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting "TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT" in their homosexual parades. A group called the "Lesbian Avengers" prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502263/posts

I will not comment further on this it has made me sick. I have never seen more lude and grotesque displays than at a gay parade. Many are not contempt to quietly practice it they wish to rebelliously flaunt it and do so in disgusting ways. Since there are over 3 million sites that contain the problems of homosexuality I can't fathom why the question was asked.

I would probably be looking up more credible links rather than just copy and pasting from obviously bias websites and/or organisations.

 

[1robin]

I would probably be looking up more credible links rather than just copy and pasting from obviously bias websites and/or organisations.

If I find a person honest enough to not claim every source of facts that are inconvenient for them allowable I will declare a holiday. When you ask for facts and they are provided and you claim them biased it just looks desperate. Even if half of them were innacurate (which is not the case) the conclusion would be exactly the same. When facts are not allowed how can any issue be resolved? It is in the best interest of polling firms to be accurate. They do not get buisness from making stuff up. I am not saying they are perfect but denying that much information is lunacy.

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

If I find a person honest enough to not claim every source of facts that are inconvenient for them allowable I will declare a holiday. When you ask for facts and they are provided and you claim them biased it just looks desperate. Even if half of them were innacurate (which is not the case) the conclusion would be exactly the same. When facts are not allowed how can any issue be resolved? It is in the best interest of polling firms to be accurate. They do not get buisness from making stuff up. I am not saying they are perfect but denying that much information is lunacy.

You do realize that virtually all the points you made refer to problems caused by ugly cultural/religious attititudes toward homosexuals, yes? If US culture ever grows up and begins to accept gays for who they are, most of the problems you cite will go away.

I knew several young homosexuals in college. Maybe of them suffer deep psychological trauma because of the attitude of the culture around them.

 

[1robin]

You do realize that virtually all the points you made refer to problems caused by ugly cultural/religious attititudes toward homosexuals, yes? If US culture ever grows up and begins to accept gays for who they are, most of the problems you cite will go away.

I knew several young homosexuals in college. Maybe of them suffer deep psychological trauma because of the attitude of the culture around them.

I gave up on your claim after the first few examples.
How does society cause:
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Hepatitis A, B and C
Gonorrhea
Syphilis
Gay Bowel syndrome
HIV/AIDS
Bacterial vaginosis

Everytime moral chaos is rationalised we all suffer. Moral ambiguity is killing millions of babies a year. Is there anything so evil and diabolical that you would not rationalise it? It is not my fault homosexuality is destructive and that type of thought process is destroying society. Let's just get it over with. let's bring Stalin and Hitler back and let them run everything, declare morality illlegal and immorality a requirement, let's blame society for criminals, kill babies for our own sins and let murderers out inspite of theirs.

This will be the new constitution:
KNOW WHAT YOU BELIEVE

The contention of the atheist is logically unsustainable and realistically unlivable. English journalist Steve Turner, in a work entitled, “Creed” sums it up pretty well:

We believe in Marxfreudanddarwin.
We believe everything is OK
as long as you don’t hurt anyone,
to the best of your definition of hurt,
and to the best of your knowledge.

We believe in sex before, during, and
after marriage.
We believe in the therapy of sin.
We believe that adultery is fun.
We believe that sodomy’s OK.
We believe that taboos are taboo.

We believe that everything’s getting better
despite evidence to the contrary.
The evidence must be investigated
And you can prove anything with evidence.

We believe there’s something in horoscopes,
UFO’s and bent spoons;
Jesus was a good man just like Buddha,
Mohammed, and ourselves.
He was a good moral teacher although we think
His good morals were bad.

We believe that all religions
are basically the same –
at least the one that we read was.
They all believe in love and goodness.
They only differ on matters of creation,
sin, heaven, hell, God, and salvation.

We believe that after death comes Nothing
Because when you ask the dead what happens
they say nothing.
If death is not the end, if the dead have lied,
then it’s compulsory heaven for all
except perhaps
Hitler, Stalin, and Genghis Khan.

We believe in Masters and Johnson.
What’s selected is average.
What’s average is normal.
What’s normal is good.

We believe in total disarmament.
We believe there are direct links between warfare and
bloodshed.
Americans should beat their guns into tractors
and the Russians are sure to follow.

We believe that man is essentially good.
It’s only his behavior that lets him down.
This is the fault of society.
Society is the fault of conditions.
Conditions are the fault of society.

We believe that each man must find the truth that
is right for him.
Reality will adapt accordingly.
The universe will readjust.
History will alter.
We believe that there is no absolute truth
excepting the truth
that there is no absolute truth.

We believe in the rejection of creeds,
and the flowering of individual thought.

Postscript, “Chance”:

If chance be
the Father of all flesh,
disaster is his rainbow in the sky,
and when you hear

State of Emergency!
Sniper Kills Ten!
Troops on Rampage!
Whites go Looting!
Bomb blasts school!

It is but the sound of man
worshipping his maker.

SOURCE: Steve Turner, “Creed” and “Chance” quoted in Can Man Live Without God by Ravi Zacharias, pp. 42-44

 

[Riverwolf]

I gave up on your claim after the first few examples.
How does society cause:
Human Papillomavirus (HPV)
Hepatitis A, B and C
Gonorrhea
Syphilis
Gay Bowel syndrome
HIV/AIDS
Bacterial vaginosis

What do STIs have to do with homosexuality?

 

[1robin]

What do STIs have to do with homosexuality?

I do not even know what they are. I assume the scholars that composed the list knew. Let me check. Ok I looked it up and I do not know of anything about homosexuality that would not contribute to STIs.

Health Risks of the Homosexual Lifestyle


The current media portrayal of gay and lesbian relationships is that they are as healthy, stable and loving as heterosexual marriages — or even more so.1 Medical associations are promoting somewhat similar messages.2 Sexual relationships between members of the same sex, however, expose gays, lesbians and bisexuals to extreme risks of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs), physical injuries, mental disorders and even a shortened life span. There are five major distinctions between gay and heterosexual relationships, with specific medical consequences. They are:

• Levels of Promiscuity read more

Similar extremes of promiscuity have not been documented among lesbians. However, an Australian study found that 93 percent of lesbians reported having had sex with men, and lesbians were 4.5 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had more than 50 lifetime male sex partners. Any degree of sexual promiscuity carries the risk of contracting STDs.

• Physical Health read more

1. Male Homosexual Behavior
2. Female Homosexual Behavior

Common sexual practices among gay men lead to numerous STDs and physical injuries, some of which are virtually unknown in the heterosexual population. Lesbians are also at higher risk for STDs. In addition to diseases that may be transmitted during lesbian sex, a study at an Australian STD clinic found that lesbians were three to four times more likely than heterosexual women to have sex with men who were high-risk for HIV.

• Mental Health read more

It is well established that there are high rates of psychiatric illnesses, including depression, drug abuse, and suicide attempts, among gays and lesbians. This is true even in the Netherlands, where gay, lesbian and bisexual (GLB) relationships are far more socially acceptable than in the U.S. Depression and drug abuse are strongly associated with risky sexual practices that lead to serious medical problems.

• Life Span read more

The only epidemiological study to date on the life span of gay men concluded that gay and bisexual men lose up to 20 years of life expectancy.

• Monogamy read more

Monogamy, meaning long-term sexual fidelity, is rare in GLB relationships, particularly among gay men. One study reported that 66 percent of gay couples reported sex outside the relationship within the first year, and nearly 90 percent if the relationship lasted five years.
In Summary http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/posts/monogamy/It is clear that there are serious medical consequences to same-sex behavior. Identification with a GLB community appears to lead to an increase in promiscuity, which in turn leads to a myriad of Sexually Transmitted Diseases and even early death. Youth should be warned of the undeniable health risks associated with a homosexual lifestyle.


http://factsaboutyouth.com/posts/health-risks-of-the-homosexual-lifestyle/

I do not even understand the question. I assumed you were referring to something very rare or unusual. The link can be found on tens of thousands of web sites. I got over a million hits. Was this a simple inquiry or was there a point you wanted to illustrate? I am baffled by the reason for a question with such an easy explenation.

 

[AmbiguousGuy]

I'm happy letting the readers study your last message, robin, and deciding for themselves which one of us has the best moral values regarding homosexuality.

 

[Riverwolf]

I do not even know what they are. I assume the scholars that composed the list knew. Let me check. Ok I looked it up and I do not know of anything about homosexuality that would not contribute to STIs.

Health Risks of the Homosexual Lifestyle


The current media portrayal of gay and lesbian relationships is that they are as healthy, stable and loving as heterosexual marriages — or even more so.1 Medical associations are promoting somewhat similar messages.2 Sexual relationships between members of the same sex, however, expose gays, lesbians and bisexuals to extreme risks of Sexually Transmitted Diseases (STDs), physical injuries, mental disorders and even a shortened life span. There are five major distinctions between gay and heterosexual relationships, with specific medical consequences. They are:

• Levels of Promiscuity read more

Similar extremes of promiscuity have not been documented among lesbians. However, an Australian study found that 93 percent of lesbians reported having had sex with men, and lesbians were 4.5 times more likely than heterosexual women to have had more than 50 lifetime male sex partners. Any degree of sexual promiscuity carries the risk of contracting STDs.

• Physical Health read more

1. Male Homosexual Behavior
2. Female Homosexual Behavior

Common sexual practices among gay men lead to numerous STDs and physical injuries, some of which are virtually unknown in the heterosexual population. Lesbians are also at higher risk for STDs. In addition to diseases that may be transmitted during lesbian sex, a study at an Australian STD clinic found that lesbians were three to four times more likely than heterosexual women to have sex with men who were high-risk for HIV.

• Mental Health read more

It is well established that there are high rates of psychiatric illnesses, including depression, drug abuse, and suicide attempts, among gays and lesbians. This is true even in the Netherlands, where gay, lesbian and bisexual (GLB) relationships are far more socially acceptable than in the U.S. Depression and drug abuse are strongly associated with risky sexual practices that lead to serious medical problems.

• Life Span read more

The only epidemiological study to date on the life span of gay men concluded that gay and bisexual men lose up to 20 years of life expectancy.

• Monogamy read more

Monogamy, meaning long-term sexual fidelity, is rare in GLB relationships, particularly among gay men. One study reported that 66 percent of gay couples reported sex outside the relationship within the first year, and nearly 90 percent if the relationship lasted five years.
In Summary It is clear that there are serious medical consequences to same-sex behavior. Identification with a GLB community appears to lead to an increase in promiscuity, which in turn leads to a myriad of Sexually Transmitted Diseases and even early death. Youth should be warned of the undeniable health risks associated with a homosexual lifestyle.


Health Risks of the Homosexual Lifestyle

I do not even understand the question. I assumed you were referring to something very rare or unusual. The link can be found on tens of thousands of web sites. I got over a million hits. Was this a simple inquiry or was there a point you wanted to illustrate? I am baffled by the reason for a question with such an easy explenation.

In case you're not aware, .com websites are generally bad for research, as they are designed for commercial purposes or general usage. They are not going to contain information that is trustworthy. Therefore, I have no reason to take this article any more seriously than ones promoting the Ancient Astronaut theory. One major red flag is the fact that it says "studies show such and such", without citing which studies, by whom, whether they were peer-reviewed or not, etc. Therefore, these figures very well could be made up.

Do you have anything that's from a .edu or .gov website?

 

[1robin]

In case you're not aware, .com websites are generally bad for research, as they are designed for commercial purposes or general usage. They are not going to contain information that is trustworthy. Therefore, I have no reason to take this article any more seriously than ones promoting the Ancient Astronaut theory. One major red flag is the fact that it says "studies show such and such", without citing which studies, by whom, whether they were peer-reviewed or not, etc. Therefore, these figures very well could be made up.

Do you have anything that's from a .edu or .gov website?

Rejecting websites on a hunch is not persuassive. Ancient astronauts are not something that can be observed in a lab or that have an inexhaustable amount of statistical backing. If external sources will be rejected if they give inconvenient conclusions there is no way an issue can be resolved which I suspect is the motivation for the equivolcation of well known facts. If a conclusion is so important as to necessitate the negation of reality I will leave you with it. The sites conclusions are common sense and require no leaps of faith or logic. The very last suffix I would ever trust is one with gov in it. I will look but am burned out on the issue. I have never seen a suffix used as an arguement before. Have a good afternoon.

 

[Riverwolf]

Rejecting websites on a hunch is not persuassive. Ancient astronauts are not something that can be observed in a lab or that have an inexhaustable amount of statistical backing. If external sources will be rejected if they give inconvenient conclusions there is no way an issue can be resolved which I suspect is the motivation for the equivolcation of well known facts. If a conclusion is so important as to necessitate the negation of reality I will leave you with it. The sites conclusions are common sense and require no leaps of faith or logic. The very last suffix I would ever trust is one with gov in it. I will look but am burned out on the issue. I have never seen a suffix used as an arguement before. Have a good afternoon.

They stressed that all the time in school, both back in high school and into college. I hear it all the time.

The site's conclusions are questionable, not common sense. Why would gay men be necessarily more promiscuous than heterosexual men, and if those figures are correct, what does that indicate? How many gay people were studied? Were their answers followed up upon? If true, could there be other explanations to this behavior? Were heterosexual people that were interviewed in the same situations as the homosexual ones? ('cause if the only heterosexuals they interviewed were married, or otherwise entirely monogamous people, the studies are bunk).

This is just standard cross-examination, and exactly what should be done in this instance. NEVER just up and trust what you read on the internet, ESPECIALLY from .com websites. THAT'S common academic sense.

I'm not saying this website is absolutely bogus. I'm saying you need to back it up with something better. .gov websites about health are reputable, have articles that are peer-reviewd, etc. .edu websites contain articles that are put out by professors and students in an academic setting, and so will ideally be properly researched.

 

[1robin]

They stressed that all the time in school, both back in high school and into college. I hear it all the time.

The internet did not exist when I went to high school and no one knew how to use it well when I was in college so you have the advantage.

The site's conclusions are questionable, not common sense. Why would gay men be necessarily more promiscuous than heterosexual men, and if those figures are correct, what does that indicate? How many gay people were studied? Were their answers followed up upon? If true, could there be other explanations to this behavior? Were heterosexual people that were interviewed in the same situations as the homosexual ones? ('cause if the only heterosexuals they interviewed were married, or otherwise entirely monogamous people, the studies are bunk).

This is just standard cross-examination, and exactly what should be done in this instance. NEVER just up and trust what you read on the internet, ESPECIALLY from .com websites. THAT'S common academic sense.

I'm not saying this website is absolutely bogus. I'm saying you need to back it up with something better. .gov websites about health are reputable, have articles that are peer-reviewd, etc. .edu websites contain articles that are put out by professors and students in an academic setting, and so will ideally be properly researched.

You are requiring so many qualifications for evidence that it would make any such attempt impracticle. However most questions are very simple to determine and widely polled. I did find many .org sites that said the same thing. I even found pro-homosexual sites that agreed. If it is necessary I will provide them I can but I am out of time today. I do not think the homosexual issues are in doubt these days. The issue is such a well debated one and has an inexhaustable amount of evidence that claims that a random site among thousands that concur is dishonest is not persuassive or likely. BTW it was three websites. Just back up a bit to find the other ones.

 

[Riverwolf]

The internet did not exist when I went to high school and no one knew how to use it well when I was in college so you have the advantage.

I recommend, then, familiarizing yourself with how the internet works, and the tricks to avoid being deceived.

You are requiring so many qualifications for evidence that it would make any such attempt impracticle. However most questions are very simple to determine and widely polled. I did find many .org sites that said the same thing. I even found pro-homosexual sites that agreed. If it is necessary I will provide them I can but I am out of time today. I do not think the homosexual issues are in doubt these days. The issue is such a well debated one and has an inexhaustable amount of evidence that claims that a random site among thousands that concur is dishonest is not persuassive or likely. BTW it was three websites. Just back up a bit to find the other ones.

One website which is from a Christian organization, and another which is a political organization... that's even WORSE than the one you gave me. For the record, I wouldn't trust articles from a website that's run by a democratic organization any more than one from a conservative one. Political organizations only care about furthering their own power.

I'm not claiming that this website is dishonest; I said it MIGHT be. It might also be incompetent. It also very well could be accurate. You claim that there's an inexhaustible amount of evidence, but you haven't exactly provided that.

When it comes to promiscuity, of course that's a dangerous lifestyle, for both homosexuals and heterosexuals. But there's nothing to indicate that homosexuality is automatically going to be more promiscuous than heterosexuality on its own.

Homosexuality is NOTHING MORE THAN SEXUAL ATTRACTION FOR THE SAME GENDER. It says nothing about behavior, libido strength, etc. That's why I asked those questions: they are absolutely necessary to check. Welcome to the inconvenience of social study. If all the questions haven't been addressed, it's not something that should be automatically trusted.

Social studies require pools of tens of thousands of people, not a few hundred. Such studies also take years as a necessity to rule out these questions. Eventually, the results of the study are published, and THEN they have to be peer-reviewed to make sure everything's kosher. That means other people now have to conduct the studies and see if they produce the same results, in addition to their own studies to answer any neglected questions. Then THAT study needs to be peer-reviewed.

That's how it works. Anything less can be ignored and discarded without shame.

 

[Ken Brown]

The internet did not exist when I went to high school and no one knew how to use it well when I was in college so you have the advantage.

You are requiring so many qualifications for evidence that it would make any such attempt impracticle. However most questions are very simple to determine and widely polled. I did find many .org sites that said the same thing. I even found pro-homosexual sites that agreed. If it is necessary I will provide them I can but I am out of time today. I do not think the homosexual issues are in doubt these days. The issue is such a well debated one and has an inexhaustable amount of evidence that claims that a random site among thousands that concur is dishonest is not persuassive or likely. BTW it was three websites. Just back up a bit to find the other ones.

Hi 1robin, I want to commend you for your effort here and the honest presentation of information you have given us. You have done a great job. KB P.S. The CDC is a .gov site and it has a wealth of damning evidence against MSM and the diseases that are plagued by that lifestyle.

 

[Riverwolf]

Hi 1robin, I want to commend you for your effort here and the honest presentation of information you have given us. You have done a great job. KB P.S. The CDC is a .gov site and it has a wealth of damning evidence against MSM and the diseases that are plagued by that lifestyle.

Forgive my ignorance, but what's MSM?

 

[Ken Brown]

Forgive my ignorance, but what's MSM?

Hi Riverwolf, it is just the term that the Center for Disease Control (CDC) uses as an acronym for "men having sex with men." KB