I would guess the same percentage as heterosexuals in this sex-crazed culture that is America.
Why would the percentage be different?
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I would guess the same percentage as heterosexuals in this sex-crazed culture that is America.
Why would the percentage be different?
Ken Brown
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Hi tumbleweed41, at issue is not the HIV denialists, at issue is the Origin of AIDS, and you might do well to look into what Tom Keske has put together. He is a statistician and a gay man who has demonstrated beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the AIDS epidemic was the result of contaminated Hep B vaccine. Please go to his site and see what he has to say: Tom Keske's Web Site. KB
Aids is, unfortunately, just one of the deadly viruses that people have picked up. Its just par for the course. Wash your hands, cook your food, and thoroughly cook meat. Avoid clutter, maintain a home without filthy roaches and beetles. Kill all blood-sucking vermin such as blood mosquitoes. Don't have sex with animals. Increase natural insect predators like lizards and snakes whose diseases are incompatible with humans but not insect predators, such as rats and mice, which can carry compatible diseases. Avoid sex with anyone you suspect may carry disease. Find something (other than a roach) that eats bed-bugs, fleas and lice. Help poor people to be less poor and to stay clean.
Beyond a shadow of a doubt? He is a conspiracy theorist. I made a cursory reading of his paper, but I can't find it discussed with other microbiologists to determine if there are inconsistencies or if the evidence points to other possible explanations.
Ken Brown
Well-Known Member
Hi Mystic Sang'ha, microbiologists are not an expert in the same field as he is. His expertise is in compiling data, and if you would have seriously looked at his analysis of the data, the only logical conclusion would be to agree with him concerning the Hep B experiments. I don't go as far as some do in believing the man made cause of AIDS as being deliberate. My personal belief is that a well intentioned government program for trying to find a vaccine for Hepatitis B went extremely wrong, and they won't or can't come clean about it as that would open up the liability lawsuit bandwagon. KB
I have no desire to seriously look at his analysis unless it has been reviewed by other experts in related fields. Microbiology, statistics, and virology to name but a few.
If your argument is that of homosexuals as being the harbingers of death in a society because of the AIDS epidemic, it is seriously dated and put to bed.
Riverwolf mentioned that the problem isn't homosexuality, but promiscuity. I personally believe the problem is a lack of comprehensive education, for in communities and societies that have a well-rounded comprehensive sex education and family-planning services, not only are teen pregnancies low, but STD rates are lower, resulting in allowing for people who are still learning about sexuality and maturing themselves to begin their lives with a better understanding of their values, and with a more thorough resolve of maintaining their values. Which leads to more honest and effective communication with their parents and then eventually with their partners.
Ken Brown
Well-Known Member
Hi MysticSang'ha, Tom Keske is just an expert in statistics, he purposefully states that he does not try to look into the virology side of the origin of AIDS, and he is gay. If you do not want to seriously look at his analysis, I suppose that is your prerogative. I myself like to know the truth about issues, and the truth about the origin of AIDS is very important. So I guess we do not have anything further to discuss. KB
Truth cannot come from one person.
Ken Brown
Well-Known Member
Hi Riverwolf, just exactly what are you trying to say? That Tom Keske cannot use his expertise in analyzing the data concerning those who received the experimental Hep B vaccine and determine that AIDS started with those who received this vaccine? I have not used ONLY his testimony in establishing this truth about AIDS, and I never said that he was the ONLY one who knew...there are many. It's just he is gay, and doesn't have an agenda, but he has used the overwhelming evidence of the statistical facts which prove it would have been a mathematical impossibility for all those participants in the test to all have acquired AIDS from anything other than that experimental vaccine. It's pretty plain and simple if you look at the data. You don't have to be a scientist, a microbiologist, a virologist, or a doctor, all you have to be is a person with common sense and look at the data to know the truth about AIDS and how it started. KB
Then let the other experts look at it, and come to the same conclusion.
If they haven't verified his data, then I have no reason to take it seriously.
Ken Brown
Well-Known Member
Hi Riverwolf, do you know the truth about Galileo? The established experts looked at his work and declared him to be a heretic, because they all had an agenda. The same thing is going on with AIDS, there is an agenda, and those in power do not want the truth to come out, but it will, it always does. So hang in there, and just remember this conversation when the truth about AIDS is openly exposed. This truth about how AIDS started is not going away, it's only going to be believed by more and more who hear of it. KB
You can't compare this situation with Galileo's. The scientific method and peer-review process didn't exist at that time, and the experts then were also leaders of some sort.
The experts I'm referring to don't have agendas, either, and neither are they leaders. They're just other guys.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Present peer reviewed studies.
Ken Brown
Well-Known Member
Hi Riverwolf, a lot of other experts have looked at this. Here is a link to one who presents ALL of the viable explainations for the Origin of AIDS. Here is his link:
Kansas City Kansas Community College - The Mysterious Origin of Human Immunodeficiency Virus
Of the six different theories for the origin of HIV/AIDS, he has this to say about the tainted Hep B vaccine theory:
Like I said earlier, the genocidal aspect of this theory has kept the mainstream experts from advocating it's acceptance. I'm not in agreement with the genocidal aspect of this theory, but in this article, they bring up an interesting fact:
Why would this Act incorporate a clause that would free the pharmaceutical companies from liabilities associated with the Hep B vaccine? Please Riverwolf, look at the facts and realize how this Hep B vaccine is at the source or origin of AIDS. KB
Ken Brown
Well-Known Member
Hi tumbleweed41, do you have any peer review studies that give a viable cause of the AIDS pandemic that you could link us to? I would prefer something that is within the last 4 or 5 years of "peer review studies." Thanks, KB.
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Some of the studies used to support the position that homosexual behavior is harmful estimate that the average number of partners lifetime partners is between 100-500, with 20-30 percent more having 500+. Even if those numbers are high, it seems unlikely that they'd be off by 1000+%. Heterosexual women have an average of about 4 partners in their life and heterosexual men about 8. I think what that's saying is that the homosexual lifestyle doesn't satisfy.
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tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Can you present any research or statistics post 1979 to support your claim?
But homosexuality is not a lifestyle at all; it's just an orientation. Once again, it's all about promiscuity, not orientation.
If exactly half the population were homosexual, then you might have something. But apparently it's less than 2% of the population.
A community college? Really?
No. Not until you provide peer-review studies. Until then, I have no reason to take that seriously, and will regard it with the same skepticism I give all conspiracy theories.