Why Did God Create Atheists?

[Eli G]

@Trailblazer I know what you believe. You're not the first bahai (or someone saying he is) I talked to.

We Witnesses don't go around doing comparative religion studies or trying to unite the world's religions or anything like that. We want to serve the God of Abraham, whom Jesus considered as his God, his own Father.

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[Sgt. Pepper]

It was far from snide, but yes, you definitely "do not know Jack about what the JewsTM believe". If you knew you would have supported your claims here.

You might want to take it easy. Conspiracy theories are pretty much nonsense and will not get you anywhere in life.

For clarification, are you referring to me or to the other member who made the unusual comment about Jews? I'm a bit confused.

 

[Eli G]

Where do you get this from? "The Jews" are not a monolithic group. And making such statements about another religion is against the rules here, especially if you cannot support it properly. I would think again about that before making those sorts of claims again. Sooner or later a Jewish member will take offense.

Another accusation?
I am about to block you.

 

[Subduction Zone]

For clarification, are you referring to me or to the other member who made the unusual comment about Jews? I'm a bit confused.

Oh definitely not you. I don't see you making what appear to be false statements about "The JewsTM".

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

Oh definitely not you. I don't see you making what appear to be false statements about "The JewsTM".

That's what I thought you meant, but you quoted my post, so I was a little confused at first. Thank you for clarifying.

 

[Eli G]

Welcome to my ignore list.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Another accusation?
I am about to block you.

There was no accusation there. You have been making claims that could easily taken to be derogatory about a religion that is not yours. That is not allowed here. I am not going to report you, but others may. If a person makes claims about a group that are seen to be derogatory the moderators do not like it. And once again, I am not a moderator nor am I going to report you to them. I was just giving you a heads up so that you will not get into trouble later one.

By the way, if someone blocks someone that does not prevent that person from correcting the posts of the person that blocked him or her. The blocker just won't be able to see those corrections.

 

[Subduction Zone]

That's what I thought you meant, but you quoted my post, so I was a little confused at first. Thank you for clarifying.

How on Earth did I make that error?

 

[Eli G]

I have no interest in staying on a website where I am not treated with respect and my participation is not appreciated. I've already banned other websites from my time, lol...the network is huge; it is their loss, not mine.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Welcome to my ignore list.

No problem. But now you I will report you if you repeat those sorts of claims about other religions.

If you keep blocking everyone that can beat you in a debate you will soon not have anyone to talk to.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have no interest in staying on a website where I am not treated with respect and my participation is not appreciated. I've already banned other websites from my time, lol...the network is huge; it is their loss, not mine.

Someone appears to have a grossly exaggerated sense of the worth of one's contributions. Why can't you debate politely and properly?

 

[Trailblazer]

@Trailblazer I know what you believe. You're not the first bahai (or someone saying he is) I talked to.

We Witnesses don't go around doing comparative religion studies or trying to unite the world's religions or anything like that. We want to serve the God of Abraham, whom Jesus considered as his God, his own Father.

The kingdom of God will be in the hands of his Son Jesus now in heaven, after being resurrected as a mighty spirit. We are not waiting on any human effort... The battle against evil is God's, not ours. This hope comes from the Bible; it's been there for more than 35 centuries. It is not about BahaUllah or any other ... it is about Jesus, Abraham's main offspring, the Son of David, the Messiah who came from heaven and went back there.

You are free to believe anything you want to believe because you have free will.
You can make the Bible say anything you want to believe, just like all Christians.

God was not Jesus' own Father because God does not have offspring since God is not a human.

God is not going to fight our battles for us because God us not responsible for the evil in the world. Humans are responsible for evil so it is their job to eradicate evil.

No man can change that ... you can believe you do, though, but it is lying to yourself, trying to change what it's been determined for so long and is about to happen.

Baha'u'llah was a Messenger of God that God sent for this age and the Kingdom of God will be established by following the blueprint instructions in His Writings. It will be established by the Baha'is and anyone else who wants to work alongside us to achieve the vision of unity and world peace.

No man can change what God has foreordained... You can believe you can, though, but it is lying to yourself, trying to change what it's been determined for so long and what has already happened.

“The time foreordained unto the peoples and kindreds of the earth is now come. The promises of God, as recorded in the holy Scriptures, have all been fulfilled. Out of Zion hath gone forth the Law of God, and Jerusalem, and the hills and land thereof, are filled with the glory of His Revelation. Happy is the man that pondereth in his heart that which hath been revealed in the Books of God, the Help in Peril, the Self-Subsisting. Meditate upon this, O ye beloved of God, and let your ears be attentive unto His Word, so that ye may, by His grace and mercy, drink your fill from the crystal waters of constancy, and become as steadfast and immovable as the mountain in His Cause.

In the Book of Isaiah it is written: “Enter into the rock, and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of His majesty.” No man that meditateth upon this verse can fail to recognize the greatness of this Cause, or doubt the exalted character of this Day—the Day of God Himself. This same verse is followed by these words: “And the Lord alone shall be exalted in that Day.” This is the Day which the Pen of the Most High hath glorified in all the holy Scriptures. There is no verse in them that doth not declare the glory of His holy Name, and no Book that doth not testify unto the loftiness of this most exalted theme. Were We to make mention of all that hath been revealed in these heavenly Books and holy Scriptures concerning this Revelation, this Tablet would assume impossible dimensions. It is incumbent in this Day, upon every man to place his whole trust in the manifold bounties of God, and arise to disseminate, with the utmost wisdom, the verities of His Cause. Then, and only then, will the whole earth be enveloped with the morning light of His Revelation.”
Gleanings From the Writings of Bahá’u’lláh, pp. 12-14

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

How on Earth did I make that error?

It happens. Not a problem.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

I have no interest in staying on a website where I am not treated with respect and my participation is not appreciated. I've already banned other websites from my time, lol...the network is huge; it is their loss, not mine.

Respect is earned, not demanded. You reap what you sow.

If you want to be respected on Religious Forums than you need to show respect to other members.

 

[Trailblazer]

I have no interest in staying on a website where I am not treated with respect and my participation is not appreciated. I've already banned other websites from my time, lol...the network is huge; it is their loss, not mine.

If you stick your feet in the water on the General Religious Debates forum, you can expect that you will have to go swimming, and the swimmers will not all agree with you.
If you want agreement you will have to post on a JW forum.

 

[firedragon]

No problem with that. If you want a level playing field, let children have access to all the relevant beliefs that are available in the world - or the major ones at least - but don't try to indoctrinate them into one particular belief. Given this is what happens all too often. One can't do much about what happens within the home but we can do so in schools.

Err. So you are fighting hard to indoctrinate children in schools? And of course in your homes? And try to force other's to do your bidding at home if you can as well?

This is tyranny.

 

[rational experiences]

Yes, came out with a theory and got stuck to it. Never questioned whether there was any truth in it or not. On the contrary, people claimed to be representatives of this God and added more nonsense to it. Atheists questioned and arrived at different conclusions.

Still the same human.

You just named the same status different names like satanist to scientist.

As a theist evolutionist is a varied God creationist version.

As the whole time the living topic subject image whatever you theme is visionary first just in your head. When natural is present first bodily. So hence its spiritual by terms to envision. Theism position.

Why present gift as word chosen is categorically advised life was living when humans pretended it didn't.

To envision as conscious concept is a spirit status. Just like the circle in O your head.

Satanists then shifted to AI vision machine caused as possessed stuck mind. New minds in DNA emerging by populus could think beyond. But it's history still vision spirit image first.

As there is no theory rationally about a string to rock as the God of creation in space owns a huge variable of many bodies. That don't end as rock. Earth sciences.

And our heavens isn't rock as a gas has a huge expansion of space to be gas.

If you said gas.... gas a string to rock you mean volcanic mass and mountain erection.

So you should see how evil theism is.

The history inherited....being mind star burnt changed brain by small o body of rock mass. Cooled sun. When a fixed sun consumed only.

You themed one circle twice in your own head as circles don't exist. Gave it two different numbers that came from nowhere in particular. Because star mass converting burning taught you.

As you said O 1 to 12 on earth as natural light only was holy.

Each a one number. Only holy numbers.

You also said after O rock falling star disappeared O that earths Rock that never left was still there. So you said it was safe. To convert earths mass.

Before you began copying science converting the reason burning was gone above also. Sure learnt your lesson when it returned.

Yet it taught you wisdom how to know first what no longer exists when it had existed first.

As our fathers memories asks you why did you think you knew what earth rock was before it was rock. Rationally,?

Destruction paths notified are science. Not creation paths as there's no such status.

How you destroyed all life on earth.

 

[rational experiences]

The bible by the way was written by humans for humans. To implement a legal system.

As life on earth rock owned no thesis. It was legal only.

God humans who loved family nature on God earth versus science itself. Believed in gods holiness not false science preaching bible theism.

Legal.

In science the argument was gods earth holy status body types versus satanisms. Theisms.

So today science argues scientist you can't argue natural first.

Natural man is first not scientist theist.

Why it was legal not scientific. What you got wrong was re reading from it.

Only legal testimonies against human scientists were the bible. Legal not science.

 

[paarsurrey]

Perhaps, but also perhaps you are disregarding the effects of indoctrination on small children so as to bias (or warp) what they tend to believe, and continue to believe - as to religious beliefs and such.

So, why not try the experiment of NOT teaching children as to the religious beliefs of the parents, and let them decide?

Not going to be likely is it?

Does one mean that the "None"s have no confidence in their youth, please?

Regards

 

[InChrist]

If your life had been different, you could have been worshiping a different god or gods, or even been an atheist. Your faith is a result of random chance.

You are just making assumptions. God draws those who truly desire to know “who the true God” wherever they are or wherever they are born.