Why Did God Create Atheists?

[Trailblazer]

It occurred to me that a Christian girl turned to an atheist for comfort and support because her fellow churchgoers turned their backs on her. That was eye opening.

Not that surprising. I have received support and comfort from atheists when believers offer only prayers or the usual 'suffering is good for' you mantra. Where is the compassion?

 

[Aupmanyav]

A theist a man just a healthy human first wanted to practice science.

Yes, came out with a theory and got stuck to it. Never questioned whether there was any truth in it or not. On the contrary, people claimed to be representatives of this God and added more nonsense to it. Atheists questioned and arrived at different conclusions.

 

[74x12]

What does it mean to be "good without God?"

Self righteousness and denies God.

Why do people need God to be good?

Why do people need food or drink? Air to breathe? All these limitations teach us something. That we cannot survive on our own. That just as our body needs all these things; our soul needs God.

 

[Mock Turtle]

" Parents are usually the ones who instill a belief in God "

Does one mean that when a child is born, thereafter, the parent must have no role in the upbringing of a child, please? Right?

Regards

Of course the parents have a role, and usually the larger role in the upbringing of any child of theirs, but it is a general fact that most people do get their religions from their parents (having such) and/or the culture and/or any education likely in the country in which they live. And being so - what the parents impart to the child - is reasonably not up to the child to decide, hence it is more indoctrination even if you might call it education, given that such will vary depending upon where one is born. In this respect - as to believing in God or not - it really is mostly up to the parents' beliefs - until a child is old enough to start questioning, that is. And many never do so. No child is born with any such belief - not in my view anyway - even if they might project their thoughts on to what they see about them, just as they might do with the animals or dolls in their life - giving them some special existence.

I am rather grateful to my parents, especially my mother who was probably the most religious of the two, since she didn't try to force anything as to religion upon me or my brothers. Her example as a decent human being was rather sufficient in my view, and I could hardly fault her bringing us up.

 

[ChristineM]

That something what/is not God.

People have no problem slaughtering people all on their own. The Bible records the first such incident of Cain murdering his brother Abel. The scriptures call such behavior sin. Whether motivated by greed, hatred, jealousy, lust, whatever it is sin and against the will of God.

The human race had been around for a couple of hundred thousand years before the OT was even though of.

 

[1213]

...
One clever student asks "What lesson can we learn from atheists? Why did God create them?"
...

By what the Bible tells, God created Adam and Eve, rest are born as their offspring.

...he does not believe in God at all, so his acts are based on an inner sense of morality. ...

There can be many reasons, even without God. Try to get something back, to look as good as a Christian... ...It doesn't necessary tell that the person has some higher morality.

But, atheist can help others for example to see what is wrong in their own ideas. I think atheists have many mistakes and errors, but in some cases they also point out correctly mistakes and errors that believers have.

 

[paarsurrey]

Of course the parents have a role, and usually the larger role in the upbringing of any child of theirs, but it is a general fact that most people do get their religions from their parents (having such) and/or the culture and/or any education likely in the country in which they live. And being so - what the parents impart to the child - is reasonably not up to the child to decide, hence it is more indoctrination even if you might call it education, given that such will vary depending upon where one is born. In this respect - as to believing in God or not - it really is mostly up to the parents' beliefs - until a child is old enough to start questioning, that is. And many never do so. No child is born with any such belief - not in my view anyway - even if they might project their thoughts on to what they see about them, just as they might do with the animals or dolls in their life - giving them some special existence.

I am rather grateful to my parents, especially my mother who was probably the most religious of the two, since she didn't try to force anything as to religion upon me or my brothers. Her example as a decent human being was rather sufficient in my view, and I could hardly fault her bringing us up.

" Of course the parents have a role, and usually the larger role in the upbringing of any child of theirs, but it is a general fact that most people do get their religions from their parents (having such) and/or the culture and/or any education likely in the country in which they live."

There is nothing wrong in telling and training the children according to one's religion. When the children are grown up, like other things they are to decide for themselves they same way they can search and research for the truth of religion. Right?

Regards

 

[KWED]

What I would understand from this, is that religious people don't have the capacity to think and no clue how to be kind or make moral judgements unless their religion or God told them to, that makes them far inferior to atheists.

Oh, religionists do have the capacity to make moral judgements without god's promise of reward or threat of punishment.
They just think they don't.

 

[KWED]

But if what he is saying is that religious people gets their morality from God or their religion, then clearly these should not be capable of doing such thing and therefore I assume that those that burn people at the stake must therefore be atheists, or religious people which doesn't follow the morality of God?
Do you see the issue then?

"Do not suffer a witch to live" - God.

"Should anyone intentionally destroy a house by fire, him also shall ye burn" - Bahaullah (god's messenger)

 

[KWED]

G-d created humans beings as believers, some of them fell from that original position and became non-believers, and they like to be called Atheist/s belonging to Atheism or many of its shades/sects/denominations, I understand, please. Right?

We are born with no religion or understanding of gods. We are then taught about them by parents and community. The gods we believe in are determined by the family we are born into.
So, if there really is one true religion, and avoiding an eternity of torture requires us to accept that one true religion, most people are doomed through the accident of birth - which is a good argument against god for any rational person.

 

[KWED]

God must truly love atheists, because they never stop talking about Him.

Do you think he likes being called imaginary, or incompetent, or a sadistic monster?

 

[KWED]

Or atheists are obsessed with God.

I am possibly the most "militant" atheist I know, but I only go on about it on religious debate forums. It plays literally zero part in the majority of my life.

It would be like seeing someone come into a cafe every lunchtime and then accusing them of being "obsessed with eating".

 

[KWED]

People have no problem slaughtering people all on their own.

Not so. Most people would refuse to just walk up and kill a roomful of strangers just because they are told to. Such behaviour usually involves a supremacist, exclusionist ideology that dehumanises an out-group. We see this throughout history.

 

[KWED]

I disagree, no one is born atheist.

Correct. They are born with no concept of religion or gods.

All children know there is a Creator God

Not until they have been taught that there is one. Young children may have a tendency to ascribe the unknown to otherworldly forces, but that is not the same thing at all. Knowledge of the explanations for the unknown removes the need for those forces.

 

[KWED]

Yet, a god found in nature is not a real God. The God who created heaven and earth as revealed in the Bible is apart and beyond the material, natural world. According to the scriptures, all gods which are a part of nature are fake gods or idols made by humans.

If your life had been different, you could have been worshiping a different god or gods, or even been an atheist. Your faith is a result of random chance.

 

[KWED]

That story would be great if it weren't for the fact that, in the entire history of humankind, there isn't one single recorded act of charity or compassion haven been performed by any atheist, anywhere, at any time.

And I defy anyone to prove me wrong.
( )

I would say that any atheist not taking you seriously is an act of compassion.

 

[KWED]

By what the Bible tells, God created Adam and Eve, rest are born as their offspring.

So Adam and Eve's children engaged in incest.
But god says incest is a sin.
Is that the "original sin" Christians go on about?

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

God did not create atheists, atheists chose to disbelieve in God.
God did not create believers, believers chose to believe in God.

There are lessons to be learned from atheists and believers.

Inaccurate, in my view. Left alone, without a single mention of "God" from the moment of birth until adulthood, I do not think anyone would hit upon the notion of the Abrahamic deity. Sure, some might form some notions of supernatural, but the god you know took many centuries of human construction to reach its many present characteristics.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Do you think he likes being called imaginary, or incompetent, or a sadistic monster?

Depends if He has a sense of irony or not.

 

[Evangelicalhumanist]

OK, but what makes you believe or think (not know) that these stories from Chassidic tales might be true or represent the truth about what God did?

I don't. As I said earlier in the thread, this isn't about God. It's about humans, and how to be better ones.