strikeviperMKII
Well-Known Member
The invitation is always there, whether you hear it from people or not. Maybe you should reassess what you think the 'party' is.
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Why did God create evil?
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The invitation is always there, whether you hear it from people or not. Maybe you should reassess what you think the 'party' is.
Majikthise
nude
OK. It's probably my own fault for believing that metaphor would suffiice.
I said:
How many invitations does it take before it's realised someone has no intrest in joining the party?
The meaning is:
I've explained it countless times so stop trying to save my soul ,trying to mold the laws of this country which is not a christian nation to fit in with your religious ideology and knocking on my front door early on weekends month after month because I'm not going to adopt your mode of belief.
I said:
One can only decline politely so many times.
The Meaning is:
It's getting old. I am a nice person ,really, but I'm on the verge of not being so nice.
I need to reassess what I think the party is?
I'm a 46 year old father with one kid in high school and the other ready for middle school, my wife and I are barely swinging the mortgage and we're in debt up to our arm pits. The party has been over for quite a while.
Hollow promises of the salvation of my eternal soul do not intrest me in the least.
They knew what was bad because God told them what was bad. To eat from the forbidden tree was not only wrong, it was death-dealing.
Evil comes from a person (spirit or human) allowing wrong desires to build in their heart. Thus a person who allows the desire to embezzle money from their employer acts upon that desire, does an evil thing (steals), and becomes a thief. Satan allowed his desire to be worshipped and his pride to cause him to become an opposer (Satan) and slanderer (Devil). "When under trial, let no one say "I am being tried by God." For with evil things God cannot be tried nor does he himself try anyone. But each one is tried by being drawn out and enticed by his own desire. Then the desire, when it has become fertile, gives birth to sin; in turn, sin, when it has been accomplished, brings forth death." (James 1:13-15)
The perpetrators of evil make the choice to do evil. You are correct in saying the wicked trample upon the rights of their victims. Of course, God is not responsible for the evil done by men. God's law makes it clear that rape and murder are evil. Those engaging in evil will be destroyed at God's due time. (Psalms 37:10,11)
Thief
Rogue Theologian
I thought that was clear in the story I told.
'Capacity'?....
"....no one is good but the Father"
So now then...are we all evil?
If we're not good then we're either neutral or evil. I wonder why God created us that way though
Thief
Rogue Theologian
If we're not good then we're either neutral or evil. I wonder why God created us that way though
We could move to an answer by using superlatives.
We could stand as neutral, and then point fingers in both directions.
God is the ultimate good...all else is less.
Moving down the line....Man is neutral until a 'choice is made'.
The souls that fell from heaven, have made the 'choice'.
I say...evil is a matter of choice....to harm or not to harm....
That is the question.
Fair point. My objection to that though is how could a perfect creator create this world that we live in? Unless where we are now is perfection.
Thief
Rogue Theologian
And I might agree.
After the creation of material things....there would still remain a peculiar silence.
It's one thing to say 'I AM!'.....another to say...'let there be light!'
But when no one answers?....then what?
Place yourself in God's situation...yes you can.
An entire creation, and it responds to your touch and will....
but it does not really...'respond'.
Creating your image directly would make a perfect reflection.
But that would be like talking to a mirror.
So here we are.
strikeviperMKII
Well-Known Member
I need to reassess what I think the party is?
I'm a 46 year old father with one kid in high school and the other ready for middle school, my wife and I are barely swinging the mortgage and we're in debt up to our arm pits. The party has been over for quite a while.
Hollow promises of the salvation of my eternal soul do not intrest me in the least.
They don't interest me either. I wouldn't care for heaven or whatever name people use for it, especially if I have to die to get there, which I'm not planning on doing any time soon. Of course, I never said anything about 'hollow promises of the salvation of [your] eternal soul', so I don't know how we got here.
arcanum
Active Member
nobody really knows anything really about why things are the way they are. We fashion idea's but we really don't know. Maybe the gnostics were right, that in the scale of things we are far from god in terms of our level of emanation, the futher from the source the less light is able to illuminate... the less power it has.