Why did God create evil?

[krsnaraja]

and therefore...you have not a worthwhile thought in your head...
and you are not capable of a proper rebuttal.

good luck with that.

Great rebuttal with you? My goodness.

 

[strikeviperMKII]

How about a quote from Genesis?....got one?

Lots of them but they'll make just as much sense as the ones I have already used so why should I bother?

 

[indomitable snowman]

He created evil because He is a little bit evil but some people believe that is all there is to creation and since evil is perfect a lot of people tend to flock towards it for the stability they seek. Everything else was affected by it when Adam and Eve let it out of it's box (so to speak). It's the fly in the ointment.

What better way to teach your kids of this evil but to tell them not to mess with it or they would surly die. So, He is not to blame but we still have learned our lesson because we wanted to find out what the hell evil was all about. Now we know and therefor we die because evil is death.

 

[St Giordano Bruno]

There is no evil which can be separated from everything else so we can observe it in isolation as an independant entity like a virus through a microscope. Evil does not and cannot exist by itself and is, at best only the sum total of all unpleasant things that happen to us and society.

 

[Thief]

Lots of them but they'll make just as much sense as the ones I have already used so why should I bother?

You can do better than this.....step up.

Where can you quote?....God did it.

 

[Thief]

There is no evil which can be separated from everything else so we can observe it in isolation as an independant entity like a virus through a microscope. Evil does not and cannot exist by itself and is, at best only the sum total of all unpleasant things that happen to us and society.

As if evil were a physical entity?

The word refers to the nature of a living thing.

That is to say...spiritual nature.

 

[9Westy9]

my answer would be that good and evil aren't physical things to be created. Therefore God neither created good or evil. good and evil are merely how we describe certain actions or events.

 

[waitasec]

my answer would be that good and evil aren't physical things to be created. Therefore God neither created good or evil. good and evil are merely how we describe certain actions or events.

that is an excellent point.
humans created the idea of good and evil...
therefore this makes the god of the bible a liar...

 

[`mud]

that is an excellent point.
humans created the idea of good and evil...
therefore this makes the god of the bible a liar...

Or maybe Moses....or Ra
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`mud

 

[Majikthise]

But without strict dogma, what do you learn? Yes, you can learn without it, but what?

I think of it in terms of working out or studying. The more you do, the more invested you are in the process (more workouts, more intense reps or more hours hitting the books), the better your result (usually).

I think the question we have to ask when we look at strict dogma is what are we supposed to be learning? To follow the dogma? Hardly. That's not learning anything at all, just doing what you're told. Organized religion is good a getting people to do that, I will freely admit. Religion as spirituality, as you have referred to it, has the same dogma that organized religion does. It is not the focus, but it is still there.

How does spirituality have the same dogma as organized religion? It's personal belief in which the individual decides what is best for them and doesn't seek to impose itself on anyone else. When it does it becomes a religion.
I'm mildly OCD, I have a counting fixation. I do it in my head , nobody else knows I'm doing it. If I started doing it out loud or started telling others they should try it it would probably bug the hell out of people or they would think I was a nut. :areyoucra
Counting helps me deal with anxiety, religion helps others deal with anxiety. Difference is I keep it to myself.

 

[paxvobiscum]

Hi, I am new to this site. I just read Isaiah 45:7 and my NKJV does not say God created evil. It says He created calamity which is a very different thing. God creates calamity often to shake us and help us to get straightened out.
The angel Lucifer created evil when he rebelled against God's perfect authority. The devil became evil as the opposer of God's righteousness. Everything the devil is is evil.

 

[Majikthise]

Hi, I am new to this site. I just read Isaiah 45:7 and my NKJV does not say God created evil. It says He created calamity which is a very different thing. God creates calamity often to shake us and help us to get straightened out.
The angel Lucifer created evil when he rebelled against God's perfect authority. The devil became evil as the opposer of God's righteousness. Everything the devil is is evil.

Welcome!!!! Hope you enjoy it here!!!

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Why would the Lord create evil?

So you can make a choice.

 

[Straw Dog]

So you can make a choice.

Does a rape victim choose to be raped? Or does God respect the rapist's right more than the victim's right to not be violated? In many ways, evil suppresses free choice. I'm also sure that all the victims of the Holocaust did not chose to be sent to concentration camps and executed.

 

[9Westy9]

Hi, I am new to this site. I just read Isaiah 45:7 and my NKJV does not say God created evil. It says He created calamity which is a very different thing. God creates calamity often to shake us and help us to get straightened out.
The angel Lucifer created evil when he rebelled against God's perfect authority. The devil became evil as the opposer of God's righteousness. Everything the devil is is evil.

1) Calamity is still evil in it's broadest sense (Calamity - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
2) Who created Lucifer?
3) How could Lucifer rebel against perfect authority?

 

[strikeviperMKII]

How does spirituality have the same dogma as organized religion? It's personal belief in which the individual decides what is best for them and doesn't seek to impose itself on anyone else. When it does it becomes a religion.

You, like many people, mistake invitation with imposition. Anyone who tries to impose is not practicing religion, only trying to make up for something that is wrong with them.

 

[sandy whitelinger]

Does a rape victim choose to be raped?

Apples and oranges again.

 

[Majikthise]

You, like many people, mistake invitation with imposition. Anyone who tries to impose is not practicing religion, only trying to make up for something that is wrong with them.

How many invitations does it take before it's realised some one has no intrest in joining the party?

One can only politely decline so many times.

 

[Thief]

1) Calamity is still evil in it's broadest sense (Calamity - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
2) Who created Lucifer?
3) How could Lucifer rebel against perfect authority?

How about the freewill to do 'something else'?
From a topic I wrote long time ago....I quote myself....

"I've heard various takes on the fall of angels...
Let's consider what we should be careful of...if any of this is true.

First a brief description of what an angels are.
In comparison to Man...they are...
Bigger, faster, stronger, more intelligent and greatly experienced.
If any man could stand face to face and deny any of these five attributes,
Then scripture is incorrect...
Man was created a little less than the angelic.

There is a long standing belief that the fall of the angelic..one third of heaven...was brought on by a division....an argument.

God...having made Man...a little less than the angelic...said to the angels...
"Man is fragile...follow after him and see to it, that he dash not his toes...nor his head."

One third of the angelic said "nay".
"For that Man is less than we are... He should be made to serve us."

There is nothing wrong in that logic.
Man does so unto lesser creatures in every way.

We... chain our dogs, and expect their loyalty...keeping to one master...even though it is their nature to run free in packs, and hunt at will.
We.... saddle and bridle our horses...and expect them to take us wherever we desire...and we break their spirits that they will obey.
We.... cage little birds..that they sing for our pleasure...but the little creature sings for a mate he will never find. There will be no nest...no offspring...and he will die in his solitude.
We...readily kill anything that cannot be made to serve us...any disobedient animal.

A fight broke out. Brother angel against Brother angel.
One third of the angelic fell from grace...losing their positions in heaven.
They lost their place because of an argument...concerning something that looks like you.
They want you dead.
Two thirds of heaven lost their Brothers because of an
argument...concerning something that looks like you.

Do you not bear resemblance to the one third fallen?
Do you not perform unto lesser things...and your fellowman ...as you will?

Are you not concerned..what...or who...will be standing over you...
When you lay down to breath your last breathe?"


So is "Lucifer" evil?....I might say yes.
Willing to do harm, is a more proper definition of evil.

Was God the source?...not really.
You would blame disobedience on Someone else?

 

[9Westy9]

How about the freewill to do 'something else'?
From a topic I wrote long time ago....I quote myself....

"I've heard various takes on the fall of angels...
Let's consider what we should be careful of...if any of this is true.

First a brief description of what an angels are.
In comparison to Man...they are...
Bigger, faster, stronger, more intelligent and greatly experienced.
If any man could stand face to face and deny any of these five attributes,
Then scripture is incorrect...
Man was created a little less than the angelic.

..............

If god created everything then he also created our negative attributes. Or at least gave us a capacity to develop these negative attributes. Also if angels are more intelligent then why did they rebel?