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Why Did God Create Humanity?

prometheus11

Well-Known Member
How is it a tragedy if there is no god? Supposedly, believers claim there is ONLY a universe because of God. Therefore, no god, no universe, nothing....not even tragedy. Impossible.

If God "left" or "died" what would change in the universe?
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
Nope. The whole point of praying is so that God will intervene.

According to the priests etc. who invented the various "revealed" religions.

How is it a tragedy if there is no god? Supposedly, believers claim there is ONLY a universe because of God. Therefore, no god, no universe, nothing....not even tragedy. Impossible.

If God "left" or "died" what would change in the universe?

It's possible, if there is a God, that the universe is a part of God--Pandeism.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Biblical anthropocentrism is, like all of its other supernatural aspects, based on pure faith. Mine is not. I gave you the reasoning which you chose to ignore, then put those hypocritical words in my mouth. You betray your own reliance on blind faith with your artificial smugness. Maybe you could learn a thing or two from some of your thinking insects.:ant:
Lol, it's so sad when a person has to resort to lying to themselves. You have fun in la-la land. I'll stick with what science is discovering and what common sense already knows, in that regard.
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
Lol, it's so sad when a person has to resort to lying to themselves. You have fun in la-la land. I'll stick with what science is discovering and what common sense already knows, in that regard.

Do you ever not go off on a tangent and resort to ad hominem attacks? You have that signature yet I'm the one who avoids science and lies to himself. Have a nice day.
 

Etritonakin

Well-Known Member
It only takes a few evil people along with a good supply of useful idiots to keep things going for as long as man is around. Of course that shouldn't stop us from fighting it.

True. That's the whole point of a temporary existence -long enough to get the general idea -followed by a separating and judgment (which is not as most think).

Man really can't solve many problems as long as generations pass away and new generations are born -then there are the problems of willingness and understanding.

We are at the point where a very few or one could literally ruin everything for everyone -which is pretty much the lesson we need to learn -and would soon learn it literally if it were not prevented.

Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
Mat 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved..........

Eventually, the earth will be resurfaced/renewed, and what happened here will not spread throughout the universe -but we will.

Rom 8:18 For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.
Rom 8:19 For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God.
Rom 8:20 For the creature was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope,
Rom 8:21 Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.

Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.

Php 3:21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
 

Useless2015

Active Member
Look after? I don't see any sign of it whatsoever. In fact, I see many signs to the contrary.

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God causes life and death. He is our Creator, we have to accept everything He either gives or takes.

For hundreds of years the evidence has been accumulating to the point where today we have a darn good idea how it all came about. The recognition that the evidence is meaningful is the logic.

That's your opinion, others have other opinions. Where are the facts?

Sorry but I don't entertain questions that are in reply to my question. Can't answer, then you can't answer. I understand..

It was a question regarding your question about 'perfect harmony'. So you really don't understand lol.




The logic is the lack of a better alternative.
Postulating that some being in the sky is responsible, when there is no evidence whatsoever, is hardly convincing, or even worthy of consideration.

There is no evidence, there are signs of God. Signs are a matter of faith, you know probably alot more than me about science but i don't understand that you think random luck created the Universe.


How many of us would be left if god had not wiped out all of civilization (save for the fortunate eight) in the great flood? In any case your reply is irrelevant. That one of the essentials for life exists only goes to show that without it we would not be here, at least in our present form. That you want to credit god for putting water here is fine, just provide the evidence. And ancient writings about the supernatural, which have been passed down through the ages do not qualify. We have many such writings besides the one you adhere to, and with much different stories about your "perfect harmony." So, if you want anyone to believe your stories are better than all the others then you have a considerable task ahead for yourself.

Look above.
 

prometheus11

Well-Known Member
The facts are these: there is not nearly enough evidence to conclude that any personal God exists....or any god at all. We all live and die in the universe. We must take whatever circumstances we find ourselves in.
 

ThePainefulTruth

Romantic-Cynic
True. That's the whole point of a temporary existence -long enough to get the general idea -followed by a separating and judgment (which is not as most think).

????

The facts are these: there is not nearly enough evidence to conclude that any personal God exists....

True.

....or any god at all.

Not true. We have no evidence at all for how the universe came to be.

We all live and die in the universe. We must take whatever circumstances we find ourselves in.

True.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
God causes life and death. He is our Creator, we have to accept everything He either gives or takes.
This is your reply to the implication that god isn't looking after anything on earth? Okay, but it's a pretty sorry one.

That's your opinion, others have other opinions. Where are the facts?
Opinion? Where are the facts? :facepalm: Alright, that's enough, I'm out of here. Have a good say.
 
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Sapiens

Polymathematician
God causes life and death. He is our Creator, we have to accept everything He either gives or takes.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, that what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.

Dismissed.
That's your opinion, others have other opinions. Where are the facts?
Facts do not exist, but evidence does, there is no evidence of your "creator," ordinary nor extraordinary.
There is no evidence, there are signs of God. Signs are a matter of faith, you know probably alot more than me about science but i don't understand that you think random luck created the Universe.
That's a straw man argument, no one ever suggested that "random luck" created the universe. Faith is complete confidence or trust in a person or thing; or a belief not based on evidence. You say that there is no evidence (which is wrong) but that there are "signs of God." Evidence, broadly construed, is anything presented in support of an assertion, a "sign of God" would be evidence, but you say that there is none. II agree with you there is none, which leaves you holding a circular argument that can only be resolved into the logical fallacy of and argument from ignorance.
Look above.
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Useless2015

Active Member
This is your reply to the implication that god isn't looking after anything on earth? Okay, but it's a pretty sorry one.

God is the one causing it, it did and will not happen without Gods will. All God teaches in the Quran is that we have to be patient and faithful.


"Say: 'I have no power Over any harm or profit To myself except as Allah Willeth. To every People Is a term appointed: When their term is reached, Not an hour can they cause Delay, nor (an hour) can they Advance (it in anticipation).' (The Noble Quran, 10:49)"


"And be steadfast in patience: For verily Allah will not suffer The reward of the righteous To perish. (The Noble Quran, 11:115)"

"It is not righteousness that ye turn your faces Towards east or West; but it is righteousness- to believe in God and the Last Day, and the Angels, and the Book, and the Messengers; to spend of your substance, out of love for Him, for your kin, for orphans, for the needy, for the wayfarer, for those who ask, and for the ransom of slaves; to be steadfast in prayer, and practice regular charity; to fulfil the contracts which ye have made; and to be firm and patient, in pain (or suffering) and adversity, and throughout all periods of panic. Such are the people of truth, the God-fearing. (The Noble Quran, 2:177)"









Opinion? Where are the facts? :facepalm: Alright, that's enough, I'm out of here. Have a good say.

I don't call ideas or speculation facts lol, sorry for asking. I shouldn't have asked in the first place because there is none. Have a good day!:)
 

Bird123

Well-Known Member
How about those who die within a year?

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Infant mortality per 1,000.
Source: Wikipedia​


Death is no more than a CHANGE. We are all Eternal. Perhaps, you need to step back in order to see the Bigger Picture and what is really going on in this world. Maybe you need to ask the question: What purpose does that infant mortality serve? There is much more going on than the mere surface of things. Look closely. Nothing is hidden. All the secrets of the universe stare us in the face.
 

Skwim

Veteran Member
Death is no more than a CHANGE. We are all Eternal. Perhaps, you need to step back in order to see the Bigger Picture and what is really going on in this world. Maybe you need to ask the question: What purpose does that infant mortality serve? There is much more going on than the mere surface of things. Look closely. Nothing is hidden. All the secrets of the universe stare us in the face.
Changing the subject won't make me wrong and you right. Dead children don't make life grand. If they did people would be killing their children left and right.
 
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