Why did God send Satan to us instead of hell.

[herushura]

He said he could lay his life down and take it up again, i dont think he was fighting to stay alive.

He was Fighting to be Dead, Suicide Man, I dont blame Him

 

[Heneni]

Unfortunately no great revelation. I was told in a chastizing tone to think more demographically.

The main lesson was He/It is real.

Regards
DL

And you came up with your equations by yourself? Or did someone give them to you?

 

[Heneni]

He was Fighting to be Dead, Suicide Man, I dont blame Him

He was not fighting.

 

[Greatest I am]

Im not familiar with the term chimeras...

Are you saying that god or his specie had sex with humans, and you find that to be an abomination. Is this about the sons of god having sex with the daughters of men?

Heneni

No.

If we follow a scriptural time line we see God creating man and sending us out to reproduce. We are told that man should only lie with woman. God sends His evil angels to earth instead of hell and they reproduce and create giants. I have forgotten another word that scripture uses for these giants. -Nephehim or some such-.
God then drowns the whole batch.
Rather a stupid story but this is what most believe.

Regards
DL

 

[herushura]

He was not fighting.

I get it, He was suffocating himself, thats why he had a spirit while not breathing because he was using the oxygen in the last breath so there no need for a new breath.

 

[Greatest I am]

We are not humans having a spiritual experience, we are spirits having a human experience. Even if all those people in the time of noah drowned it does not mean their spirits died, it means their flesh were fish food but their spirits went somewhere else.

heneni

Scripture says they were all evil, even the babies. They would all go to hell according to scripture.

Regards
DL

 

[herushura]

Scripture says they were all evil, even the babies. They would all go to hell according to scripture.

Regards
DL

The Darkness is always metaporized as Evil, Stars = Cherubs = babies

 

[Greatest I am]

Your right again. We can only trust in what we know. Some people do know god and therefore they do trust him.

heneni

God is. I know He/It is.

Trust Him to do what?
I can think of nothing I trust It to do. It just is. It does nothing here except communicate when we reach out.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

And you came up with your equations by yourself? Or did someone give them to you?

Try logic.
Put away your childish toys of talking fish that spit out men and you might understand a smidge better.

Regards
DL

 

[Heneni]

No.

If we follow a scriptural time line we see God creating man and sending us out to reproduce. We are told that man should only lie with woman. God sends His evil angels to earth instead of hell and they reproduce and create giants. I have forgotten another word that scripture uses for these giants. -Nephehim or some such-.
God then drowns the whole batch.
Rather a stupid story but this is what most believe.

Regards
DL

WOOwZY So the angels....the evil angels that is..had sex with humans and created giants. Have i got it right NOW?

PHEWHH i hope so.

Heneni

 

[Greatest I am]

WOOwZY So the angels....the evil angels that is..had sex with humans and created giants. Have i got it right NOW?

PHEWHH i hope so.

Heneni

You are lost in the myths of scripture while I am trying to discuss the stupidity of the philosophical wrongness of it. Too bad.

Regards
DL

 

[Heneni]

LOL, if you dont even know what the myth says exactly how can you be sure it is wrong?

You say that it is wrong for humans to have sexual relations with that which is not of their specie. And according to myth giants were produced when humans had sex with the evil angels. Now correct me if im wrong...but dogs cant have sex with cats and produce lizards. So you are repelled by a myth that says angels and humans reproduced together but you never though about the fact that such reproduction would have been unlikely if they were not 'alike'.

So if the angels had sex with humans, then there must have been something rather interesting going on in the reproductive organs of the humans and the angels to be able to reproduce together.

So either you dont like the fact that angels and humans have something in common, or the angels that god sent to the earth were actually given human bodies to live in. (which would make sense), and would allow for reproduction.

But then you dont fancy the fact that god drowned them all. I think he warned them hundreds of years before. Not like he didnt warn them. And really, all that was going to happen was a natural disaster, which he knew was coming long before it arrived, but no one wanted to listen to him. He was trying to be nice, not a sadistic monster.

Once again...noah trusted god to save him, the rest must have though, a well we are giants nothing is going to drown us!

So there you go.

Another thing. If you want to be iffy and call my little fish story childish, im inclined to put you in the fish and do the spitting myself. And since your little equations seems rather childish to me as well, but still i indulged your little cherade, please try and extend me the same curtousy in the future.

I have also...on a few occations tried to get you to explain WHAT your new found knowledge is after having a spiritual experience with god himself. I thought it would be nice for you to share more of what you have learnt since that experience. If what you have learnt is your idea of equational religion, then im impressed. But i am not impressed with your lack of understanding them too well yourself.

If you do like to continue a debate with me that is fine, and i will be much obliged, but if not, be prepared to see the inside of a fish.

heneni

 

[Heneni]

I do believe in God but certainly not the God most find in scripture.
Their God does kill and breaks His own laws. Mine does not.

Would you sit there and kill ants by the ton. Not likely.
Why would any one think that God would sit there and kill humans by the millions.
Both are not likely or logical. God should be logical.

God did not turn the earth into a brothel for angels and then drown all the offsprings.

Regards
DL

So god kills. Even though when the person is dead, the spirit of the person is not dead. That is like deviding by a zero.

God should be logical. But a real god wouldnt let himself be told how he should be. That is like deviding by two zeros

You say you came up with your equations by using logic. So you are formulating spiritual concepts by using logic. That is not like deviding by a zero. However, your logic and the next persons logic obviously is not the same.

Hoping that we would just accept your equations as logic, is illogical.

Then zenzero posts something about satan and god are all man made concepts and you agree with him, but then you tell us that you know god/it exists. That is a tad illogical. That equation would be....

god is man made concept = i had a spiritual experience with the god i came up with = he is real.

Not bad...though a tad risky.

God you say, did not send all the angels here to turn this place into a brothel and then kill everybody.....OK....then what did god do? Or what does god do?

Heneni.

 

[Greatest I am]

According to the New American Bible, the Nephilim appear as part of the "increasing wickedness of mankind". Their mention does account for the "giants" of Canaan, whom the Israelites also called the Nephilim, since according to Genesis 6:4 "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them." (NIV translation). This verse, which precedes and introduces the passage of the Great Flood thus implies that the


Nephilim actually came to the earth at least twice. The first of which were destroyed in the flood, and the second succeeding the flood. Thus it is possible the "giants of Canaan" were the direct result of the Nephilim. The reference introduces the story of the flood with a moral orientation.[2]

Also, the commentary suggests that the phrase "(as well as later)" stated above is a reference to the Book of Numbers 13:33, how the Israelites likened the tall aborigines ("Anakim") to the Nephilim, possibly due to seeing the very tall structures of Canaan that appeared to have been built by a race of giants.[3]

The New American Bible commentary draws a parallel to the Letter of Jude and the statements set forth in Genesis, suggesting that the Epistle refers implicitly to the paternity of Nephilim as heavenly beings who came to earth and had sexual intercourse with women.[4]

 

[opuntia]

There is a belief that Satan and his minions were sent here to torment us. Not true. They are here to add another dimension to our mortal trials. They are here temporarily and when (according to the Holy Bible) the world is cleansed from all sin they will be cast into that eternal world of pain. Said the Psalmist:

"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me." (Psalm 23:4).

Surely some people will be fearful if these evil beings were revealed for us to see. So, in order to see who will believe and not be deceived by Satan, we walk in the valley of the shadow of death (their death of course--they are dead spiritually). But like all valleys, this valley will have an end.

So, in order to live and not partake of their death we must rely upon God and keep His word. Were are not here merely to buy homes and live regular lives as if this life will last forever. We are here to learn from all the things we confront and death will bring to a close our mortal learning experience. If you have any questions the next life will help answer them or I should say that divine beings will be there to explain what we did not understand here.

 

[Greatest I am]

Are these true
Man+woman=son
God+lady God=Goodgod
God+woman=abomination
Angel+woman=flood

Regards
DL

 

[Right_Path]

Are these true
Man+woman=son
God+lady God=Goodgod
God+woman=abomination
Angel+woman=flood

Regards
DL

Keep saying that until you get stunned with the truth...and believe me when this happens, you will despise this.....equation?:sarcastic

 

[Greatest I am]

Thanks for the insight?

Regards
DL

 

[Ben Masada]

According to the New American Bible, the Nephilim appear as part of the "increasing wickedness of mankind". Their mention does account for the "giants" of Canaan, whom the Israelites also called the Nephilim, since according to Genesis 6:4 "The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward--when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them." (NIV translation). This verse, which precedes and introduces the passage of the Great Flood thus implies that the


Nephilim actually came to the earth at least twice. The first of which were destroyed in the flood, and the second succeeding the flood. Thus it is possible the "giants of Canaan" were the direct result of the Nephilim. The reference introduces the story of the flood with a moral orientation.[2]

Also, the commentary suggests that the phrase "(as well as later)" stated above is a reference to the Book of Numbers 13:33, how the Israelites likened the tall aborigines ("Anakim") to the Nephilim, possibly due to seeing the very tall structures of Canaan that appeared to have been built by a race of giants.[3]

The New American Bible commentary draws a parallel to the Letter of Jude and the statements set forth in Genesis, suggesting that the Epistle refers implicitly to the paternity of Nephilim as heavenly beings who came to earth and had sexual intercourse with women.[4]

The sacred writer who added that fragment about the Nephilim in Genesis 6 was Ezra, when he put together the books of the Bible
to be approved for the canon of the Tanach. That was to explain the Anakim the Israelites met at their arrival in Canaan.
But the issue about the Nephilim was borrowed by Ezra from an ancient mythological Babylonian legend.
They would call those legendary beings sons of God or celestial beings. There is a tradition that those sons of God in Genesis 6 is a reference
to the sons of Seth who took for wives the daughters descendants of Cain or the other children of Adam and Eve who had degenerated spiritually,
and became known as the children of man, opposite to the children of God or children of Seth.


Ben:clap

 

[Greatest I am]

With all the old texts and oral tradition, it is hard to know where any of the myths started.
Myth is the main word.

Regards
DL