Why did shirdi sai baba eat meat?

[iamsharky789]

I know Satya Sai Baba was asked if He was God and He replied: You are God. The difference is I realize who I am.

This is advaitan philosophy. We are just caught in the illusion (Maya) of separateness. Avatars experience without illusion.

You want to make scandals out of everything you can find that some misconstrue like sharing meat with Muslims or Oneness with God. It appears you are not interested in anything positive. You are always mute when I ask what positive spiritual things you have to tell us.

Actually I learned quickly to ignore you but I posted this for support of others.

What is your problem? Didn't your mother teach you if you don't have nothing nice to say, don't day it all? I do not want to make scandals at all. I want to understand more about sai baba. I was asking similar questions in another thread and it was the wrong place to do it so I started my own. Why should I discuss positive things? Is that a rule? You are a complete idiot if you think asking about swami displaying certain behaviors are only about positive or negative. Because of people like you, things are not discussed and people are tricked into following blindly anything they want. I actually found out that many devotees of this sai baba did not even know he ate meat and that most of the temples do not serve meat even though their own deity ate it.

If swamis, gurus devotees and so-called gods was to make claims, then they better be able to answer questions. You do you think you are? I do not need tell you anything about my spiritual things. Take your own advice and ignore me. Your low-life opinions are worthless to me since you feel so dismissive about my posts.

 

[Sb1995]

What is your problem? Didn't your mother teach you if you don't have nothing nice to say, don't day it all? I do not want to make scandals at all. I want to understand more about sai baba. I was asking similar questions in another thread and it was the wrong place to do it so I started my own. Why should I discuss positive things? Is that a rule? You are a complete idiot if you think asking about swami displaying certain behaviors are only about positive or negative. Because of people like you, things are not discussed and people are tricked into following blindly anything they want. I actually found out that many devotees of this sai baba did not even know he ate meat and that most of the temples do not serve meat even though their own deity ate it.

If swamis, gurus devotees and so-called gods was to make claims, then they better be able to answer questions. You do you think you are? I do not need tell you anything about my spiritual things. Take your own advice and ignore me. Your low-life opinions are worthless to me since you feel so dismissive about my posts.

Who??

 

[iamsharky789]

Why does his teachings have to deal with diet and what we eat? There are much more important issues in my opinion. Why cant his Hindu followers be vegetarian and his muslim followers (if any) eat meat? Clearly what you eat (as long as it isn't cow) isn't that significant.

He is accepted as a hindu-god/saint where to the point idolatry is performed in their centers. If he really was a type of hindu, why did he eat meat? Did his actions contradict any of this writings or sayings? If so why? What your diet is significant in hinduism. There are many beef-eating hindus so I do not understand what your point is.

If there are more important issues in your opinion, then get of here and ask them. Why are you wasting bandwith here. I am trying to learn about this thing and you are seriously really annoying.

 

[iamsharky789]

Who??

If you had been not trolling and acutally following the tread and the discussion, I said, I called two temples in the USA and asked them (among other questions) if they served non-vegetarian food and they replied no and that is because most of their devotees and members are vegetarian.

 

[Sb1995]

If you had been not trolling and acutally following the tread and the discussion, I said, I called two temples in the USA and asked them (among other questions) if they served non-vegetarian food and they replied no and that is because most of their devotees and members are vegetarian.

You just said many of his devotees didn't even know that Sai Baba ate meat, I'm asking who? which devotee's didn't know he ate meat and that the Sai mandirs didn't serve meat???

 

[Sb1995]

He is accepted as a hindu-god/saint where to the point idolatry is performed in their centers. If he really was a type of hindu, why did he eat meat? Did his actions contradict any of this writings or sayings? If so why? What your diet is significant in hinduism. There are many beef-eating hindus so I do not understand what your point is.

If there are more important issues in your opinion, then get of here and ask them. Why are you wasting bandwith here. I am trying to learn about this thing and you are seriously really annoying.

He ate meat to bond the muslims and the Hindu's. Besides, where does it state that you are not allowed to eat meat??? I thought MV cleared this up for you.

 

[iamsharky789]

He ate meat to bond the muslims and the Hindu's. Besides, where does it state that you are not allowed to eat meat??? I thought MV cleared this up for you.

From what I understand, from the gita, you are not allowed to eat meat and will rot in hell if you do. Now in order to accept this, I get that people are very defensive about the facts. the gita is not the sole book that represents hinduism but I am thinking that if sai spoke on hinduism so greatly that he must have have gave it a glance or two.

This relates to my follow-up question, why did he have to violate dharmic principles in order to bond muslims and hindus, something that clearly to this day, did and does not work. He has been claimed to do so many miracles, why not miraculously get the muslims and hindus to get along? Why is meat eating the only answer for this then very simple minded man had for your supposed reasoning that it would bond muslims and hindus?

My take on it is that he ate meat because he liked the taste. If his teachings do or do not reflect that, I guess I will never know because followers here seem to be confused. I further think that whoever followed sai back then, did not think that his meat eating was a big deal and minimalized it so it would not affect the pre-existing hindus and that is why it is a semi-sensitive topic now.

I don't know who mv is but no one my that name has posted on this thread.

 

[Sb1995]

MV posted his response on my other thread and I'll wait for him once again to come here and clear up your meat eating issues. Whih dharmic principles did Shri Sai break?

-from wikipedia
Sai Baba encouraged his devotees to pray, chant God's name, and read holy scriptures. He told Muslims to study the Qur'an and Hindus to study texts such as the Ramayana, Bhagavad Gita, and Yoga Vasistha.[22] He was impressed by the philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita and encouraged people to follow it in their own lives.[23] He advised his devotees and followers to lead a moral life, help others, love every living being without any discrimination, and develop two important features of character: devotion to the Guru (Sraddha) and waiting cheerfully with patience and love (Saburi). He criticised atheism

 

[iamsharky789]

MV posted his response on my other thread and I'll wait for him once again to come here and clear up your meat eating issues. Whih dharmic principles did Shri Sai break?

-from wikipedia
Sai Baba encouraged his devotees to pray, chant God's name, and read holy scriptures. He told Muslims to study the Qur'an and Hindus to study texts such as the Ramayana, Bhagavad Gita, and Yoga Vasistha.[22] He was impressed by the philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita and encouraged people to follow it in their own lives.[23] He advised his devotees and followers to lead a moral life, help others, love every living being without any discrimination, and develop two important features of character: devotion to the Guru (Sraddha) and waiting cheerfully with patience and love (Saburi). He criticised atheism

From wiki also:

There are three main reasons for this: the principle of nonviolence (ahimsa) applied to animals; the intention to offer only "pure" (vegetarian) food to a deity and then to receive it back as prasad; and the conviction that a sentient diet is beneficial for a healthy body and mind and that non-vegetarian food is detrimental for the mind and for spiritual development.

Multiple other Rigvedic verses in Mandala 10, including 85.13, 162.4 and 162.12-13, contain references to the slaughter of cattle, horses and other animals, as well as meat eating.

Vegetarianism is propagated by the Yajurveda and it is recommended for a satvic (purifying) lifestyle. Thus, another reason that dietary purity is so eminent within Hinduism is because “the idea that food reflects the general qualities of nature: purity, energy, inertia”; it follows that a healthy diet should be one that promotes purity within an individual

 

[Stormcry]

They're talking about shirDI sai bAbA, not satya sai bAbA. The former died in 1918, and you look way too young to have been alive during that time (in this sharIra, at least, ).

I know bro.

Shri krishna's swear, I have real pic of shirdi sai baba. You wouldn't believe me. At those times, there was black n white camera.

Hari krishna ♥

 

[iamsharky789]

I know bro.

Shri krishna's swear, I have real pic of shirdi sai baba. You wouldn't believe me. At those times, there was black n white camera.

Hari krishna ♥

There are multiple photos of the original sai. What is your point?

 

[iamsharky789]

Even the sai baba website give a circular answer. Seems like the followers give him a pass but then encourage vegetarianism. I wish sites like these did some spelling and grammer checks to make them more legible but it's still some explanation even thought it hardly makes sense.


I would like to clear the doubt in my mind as to whether Baba believed in the philosophy of staying vegetarian?And if not,what logic was behind adopting non-vegetarianism?
There is no evidence in the available sources on Baba that He Believed in staying vegetarian,rather there is a mention in Shri Sai Satcharitra that Baba cooked non- vegetarian food for some of His devotees. In the ultimate anaysis human beings have no right to kill any species for enjoyment,particularly when they have been given the intelligence to know that God exists in every one. Animals don’t have this intelligence .This is Baba's basic preaching ,but since all devotees cannot change overnight,therefore,they are to be handled accordingly.Simply being vegearian or non-vegetarian doesnot necessarily make a man spiritual or otherwise . In the world more than 3/4 population is non-vegetarian.Did these countries not produce spiritual leaders including Jesus & Prophet.We should strive to be a vegetarian not only to avoid eating of flesh (even living vegetables have life), but because one should not be party to killing of other species.As per Hindu theory this Karma will effect him adversely.Besides ,vegetarian food is easier to digest.

Is taking non-vegetarian food wrong or sinful?
No,because "jeevah jeevah khadati" - one creature feeds on another creature.But there are certain foods ,which are natural ,like the child who is nourished by his mother on her breast-feed.Human being eats vegetables and after his death his disintegrated body returns to the soil and becomes a part of the whole vegetable world.But killing an animal means we have finished the conciousness which had reached a higher level,and eating the flesh of a human means finishing the conciousness which had reached yet higher level than animals.Saints who have reached a highly evolved state of conciousness ,do not eat anything.Upasani Maharaj did not eat anything for one year.Some saints bring about such changes in their organic system that they can nourish themselves on the direct energy from sun.

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[Sb1995]

I know bro.

Shri krishna's swear, I have real pic of shirdi sai baba. You wouldn't believe me. At those times, there was black n white camera.

Hari krishna ♥

You aren't the only one mere bhai..
Go on google and type "Sai Baba Shirdi Original photo" and you will see plenty.

 

[Sb1995]

iamsharky it seems like you are starting to get the answers you want. Is there any other questions about Shri Sai that you would like to ask me? Keep in mind that george and I and maybe 1-3 others are the only Sai Baba devotees on this forum.

 

[iamsharky789]

iamsharky it seems like you are starting to get the answers you want. Is there any other questions about Shri Sai that you would like to ask me? Keep in mind that george and I and maybe 1-3 others are the only Sai Baba devotees on this forum.

All the information given on that website is wrong. Animals do have intelligence is just one example.

 

[Sb1995]

All the information given on that website is wrong. Animals do have intelligence is just one example.

In the ultimate anaysis human beings have no right to kill any species for enjoyment,particularly when they have been given the intelligence to know that God exists in every one. Animals don’t have this intelligence .This is Baba's basic preaching.
Thats the only line I saw on that paragraph you posted about animals and intelligence. Stop jumping to conclusions. It didn't say that animals don't have intelligence, it said animals dont have the intelligence to know that God exists in every one. Which website is this even from??? you need to learn to read more carefully before jumping to the decision you wish to hear. How is all the information given wrong? You clearly jump to conclusions often my friend..Is this Sai Baba's website? wow I didn't know he created a blog before his death in 1918.

 

[iamsharky789]

In the ultimate anaysis human beings have no right to kill any species for enjoyment,particularly when they have been given the intelligence to know that God exists in every one. Animals don’t have this intelligence .This is Baba's basic preaching.
Thats the only line I saw on that paragraph you posted about animals and intelligence. Stop jumping to conclusions. It didn't say that animals don't have intelligence, it said animals dont have the intelligence to know that God exists in every one. Which website is this even from??? you need to learn to read more carefully before jumping to the decision you wish to hear.

The website is posted in my original post. Also sai baba ate onions and garlic. Isn't that a violation of the gita. I thought most hindus do not consume onions or garlic since these substances induce the rajas and tamas gunas, which are known to lead to spiritual regress. I don't know if animals know if god exists in everyone. That is a bold claim. All I know is dog is god spelled backwards.

 

[Sb1995]

The website is posted in my original post. Also sai baba ate onions and garlic. Isn't that a violation of the gita. I thought most hindus do not consume onions or garlic since these substances induce the rajas and tamas gunas, which are known to lead to spiritual regress. I don't know if animals know if god exists in everyone. That is a bold claim. All I know is dog is god spelled backwards.

May I ask why you are so concerned about what Shri Sai ate? What claim will you bring up next? Someone who touched a cow then touched Shri Sai and then Sai cooked a meal? If the only thing holding you back from respecting Shri Sai is his diet then may bhagwan help you. I don't know much about the Gita or any sacred Hindu text frankly speaking so I cannot answer that.

 

[Stormcry]

In hindu sanatana dharma, killing and eating, these are one of the greatest sins.

According to shastra, For those who are killers or eaters of animals ,the door of hell or the door of animal kingdom, is always welcome.

Hari harihi

 

[iamsharky789]

May I ask why you are so concerned about what Shri Sai ate? What claim will you bring up next? Someone who touched a cow then touched Shri Sai and then Sai cooked a meal? If the only thing holding you back from respecting Shri Sai is his diet then may bhagwan help you. I don't know much about the Gita or any sacred Hindu text frankly speaking so I cannot answer that.

I just want to understand if this man was truly hindu or muslim. Why do you care that I am asking questions? Seems like your a bit defensive. If you don't want to answer, you know you have the option of doing so why don't you? Since you don't know about the gita, go read and study it and then maybe in six months, come back and you might have learned something.