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Why do atheists/agnostics/liberals have an anti American attitude?

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Primordial Annihilator

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Southern Sudan has their plans for world conquest on the drawing board as we speak.

Why not eh?

We had a crack at it...didn't do too bad for a tiny little insignificant island considering we effectively ruled quite a large proportion of the earth's land and ocean surface...despite the chronic toothache...apart from spawning you lot.

Why can't you be more like your brothers Canada and Australia?
 

Debunker

Active Member
Lol, fearmonging at it's best. You should run for republican congress......:rolleyes:

You win the trophy for making statements that make no sense whatever. How can asking for moderation and common sense be fear-mongering?If you asked that question to a Nazi society or a Communist society your statement would make a little sense but to state that in a free society like the USA, you show total disregard for common sense.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Are those the only two possible situations? Being an Utopia or being a criminal against humanity?
 

Debunker

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How is that so?

I must admit that there is much truth in what you say. However, there certainly are degrees of evil in various cultures and counties that are more evil in their behavior than other communities and this evil is also confined to particular periods of history. Germany today must be viewed as at least a moderately moral nation. But the Nazi nation of WWII stood alone in Europe as a most evil empire. Japan had its hour of evil, so did Russia, China, Korea and yes the USA.

So criticism of evil in this world can be spread around. In spreading the criticism of evil around, as we often do on this forum, it seems that the best approach would be to try to identify the good in any of the various common sense philosophies of the many who contribute here and use these philosophies to create a better world.

Thanks to the posters on this thread, many of you have demonstrated your unwillingness to create a Melting Pot of ideas that could save us all. Some big fish have chosen to swim in their own water and takes no water from another body of water. The USA thankfully has not been that type of country. There have been and will continue to be areas where others can justly criticize the USA. But no other nation in the history of mankind has ever offered as much mechanism in its culture for self correction over a long period of time. That must be considered a good thing by any common sense person. For this reason, I am suspicious of the motives of those who harshly criticize the Constitution of the USA, of those who oppose the Christian philosophy of life, and especially those who promote the religious (other faiths) way of life but do not live up to the model of their faith.

Those fish who do not want to swim in the world ocean need to be isolated from the rest of humanity. There is no need in this world for radical Muslims, Christians, Jews, liberals, consevatives, or any faith that depends on and call for the total destruction of others. We must be willing to make a judgement and take action against evil philosophies and ways of life that threaten mankind. I know that this is difficult to decide who is righteous and who is not and there is a danger of self righteousness, but we are forced to chose. Some of the responses on this thread is making are making it clear what choice America must make.
 

Reverend Rick

Frubal Whore
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Debunker, take it easy on our Liberal friends. They have the best of intentions, they just are blind to reality.

I don't blame you for any contempt you may hold for them however, they have been rude to you to say the least. You shed the light of day and common sense upon them so you cannot expect them to greet you with open arms. They believe they control the internet and are generally sheltered from logical debate. The poor souls are not use to being challenged. :no:
 
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Debunker

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Consider yourself eaten.

As smart as you are and as a strong Christian that you are, your bright remarks are insulting to your beliefs and personal philosophy of life. It would be a great gift to humanity if you would put the practice of your strong faith into your political life. Hate, rage, and disrespect for the beliefs of others (conservatives) certainly conflict with the rules of behavior that God personally gave to you to follow. Let me remind you that the degree that you do not live up to the standards you have accepted as your own, this is the measure of your hypocritical life.

By the way, your thread on your religious beliefs is wonderful. You are teaching me a lot and I highly recommend it to all Christians to read. But, I would like to see more of your faith put into practice in your political expressions. IMO you are too intolerant of others to maintain the Christian philosophy you have.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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Debunker, take it easy on our Liberal friends. They have the best of intentions, they just are blind to reality.

Not to the extent of thinking that Bush's idealism = American idealism.

Not even thinking Republicans push the importance of Bush's idealism to the extremes that Debunker does. Republicans are worshipping Reagan nowadays because Bush is so extremely unpopular. It's debatable anyway how faithful Bush (and Reagan) are to conservative values, particularly because they have had to be redefined since the last two years of the Bush administration.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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As smart as you are and as a strong Christian that you are, your bright remarks...

You forgot to compliment my delightful sense of humor, stunning wit, adorable sensitivity, flattering civility, undying love for truth and beauty, and relentless passion.

But then again you don't know me that well.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
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I must admit that there is much truth in what you say. However, there certainly are degrees of evil in various cultures and counties that are more evil in their behavior than other communities and this evil is also confined to particular periods of history. Germany today must be viewed as at least a moderately moral nation. But the Nazi nation of WWII stood alone in Europe as a most evil empire. Japan had its hour of evil, so did Russia, China, Korea and yes the USA.

So criticism of evil in this world can be spread around.

But not so casually, so irresponsibly as it is being attempted here.


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But no other nation in the history of mankind has ever offered as much mechanism in its culture for self correction over a long period of time. That must be considered a good thing by any common sense person.
That may have been true once. It certainly isn't any longer.


For this reason, I am suspicious of the motives of those who harshly criticize the Constitution of the USA, of those who oppose the Christian philosophy of life, and especially those who promote the religious (other faiths) way of life but do not live up to the model of their faith.
How do you feel them about those who claim to support a Christian, all-american life yet betray those principles? There has been no shortage of same, you know.


Those fish who do not want to swim in the world ocean need to be isolated from the rest of humanity. There is no need in this world for radical Muslims, Christians, Jews, liberals, conservatives, or any faith that depends on and call for the total destruction of others. We must be willing to make a judgement and take action against evil philosophies and ways of life that threaten mankind. I know that this is difficult to decide who is righteous and who is not and there is a danger of self righteousness, but we are forced to chose. Some of the responses on this thread is making are making it clear what choice America must make.
It has been clear for decades already, but I don't think I will reach any agreement with you on this matter.

Heck, you are calling GWB an idealist, for crying out loud. How can anyone consider the current GOP - a party that has freaking Ronald Reagan, the man who conceived Iran-Contras and protected that downrotten Oliver North, as a moral reference - a source of idealism is quite beyond me. By rights you American should be demanding it to close its doors already.
 
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