Why do atheists/agnostics/liberals have an anti American attitude?

[Darkness]

The Scandinavian Model based upon social-democratic principles is the shining beacon of the world. I hate to break it to you, but the American Consensus is morally bankrupt and the 2008 crisis has shown that it is not sustainable.

United States Statistics:
Unemployment Rate: 9.0 per cent
Trade Balance: -643.4 billion USD
10-year gov't bonds: 3.64 per cent
Budget Balance: -8.9 per cent

Swedish Statistics:
Unemployment Rate: 7.4 per cent
Trade Balance: +10.5 billion USD
10-year gov't bonds: 3.46 per cent
Budget Balance: -1.3 per cent

Yeah, socialism doesn't work.

 

[Sunstone]

I object to Socialism on the grounds that Socialism is not a viable model for a country, such as the US, that is hellbent on becoming a third world nation.

 

[Mathematician]

Just why is this the case? They don't like the Consitution, the Bible, babies, pie in the sky, God, or old time religion. I say love it or leave it. Christians, it is time to stand up for the USA. (Please do not use sarcasium in your answers atheist & liberals as this is a serious thread.) Remember the question is why.

Do conservatives who damn America for legalizing abortion or having public assistance or banning school prayer get the pass? Why don't they either love it or leave it?

Seems like both "camps" have their devout lunatics who truly are anti-American, and then those people who genuinely want what's best for their country.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I object to Socialism on the grounds that Socialism is not a viable model for a country, such as the US, that is hellbent on becoming a third world nation.

Yes!! Excellently said.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

I would love Socialism. The real reason most Americans don't is because they're indoctrinated to dislike change, even the most liberal Americans.

 

[KnightOwl]

Sorry jbug, but you lost me at "dissasembly" (sic)

 

[Debunker]

Hey Debunker what makes you think that our Constitution is in any way based on the Bible or Christianity? Care to tell me?

No1 I would not care to tell you. I am sure you know the argument.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

No1 I would not care to tell you. I am sure you know the argument.

Nah I don't know the argument at all. Such an argument doesn't exist. Most of our founding fathers were Deists and the god they spoke of was like a watchmaker, not the god of the Bible. There is no "argument". Read my signature for an example

 

[kylixguru]

Yeah, socialism doesn't work.

It only works when there aren't more free alternatives readily accessible. As soon as a New America is rebuilt with the same freedoms it once had, guess where most all talent in socialist nations are going to flee to? There's a very good reason why America used to lead the world in production and why it no longer does. The answer is democratic and socialistic mechanisms making it more and more difficult to produce anything of value.

 

[kylixguru]

Sorry jbug, but you lost me at "dissasembly" (sic)

Sorry, "dismantling" probably would have been a better choice of wording.

 

[Debunker]

Do you think that Hitler thought that evil would prevail over good?
Or perhaps are such war-criminals just as self congratulating.
so that even adolf thougth that his good would prevail over their evil?
improperly educated democracy is a stepping stone for civil strive and war.
I'm affraid this Idealism that you seak is only in your dreams...
As long as people of your quality don't change in their nature,
there will be little chance for peace.

You may not believe it but a better educated world will be a better world. We will always have evil people but educated people will be able to limit their evil more than an ignorant race of people. Too bad you seem to favor the ignorant's chances of srvival over the informed. I would say that the chances of their being another Hitler in Germany are zero. Evil did lose in the end but I do think Hitler thought he would win.

 

[Debunker]

Do conservatives who damn America for legalizing abortion or having public assistance or banning school prayer get the pass? Why don't they either love it or leave it?

Seems like both "camps" have their devout lunatics who truly are anti-American, and then those people who genuinely want what's best for their country.

Your radical claims is what this thread intends to expose as divisive to national unity. What you say is simply false and is openly oppositional and defiant and out of order. On this thread you define yourself as a big fish on the hook.

 

[Debunker]

Nah I don't know the argument at all. Such an argument doesn't exist. Most of our founding fathers were Deists and the god they spoke of was like a watchmaker, not the god of the Bible. There is no "argument". Read my signature for an example

Your vote only counts to one.

 

[waitasec]

I would love Socialism. The real reason most Americans don't is because they're indoctrinated to dislike change, even the most liberal Americans.

i think most americans think they will be rich one day, that's why socialistic ideas are scary...

 

[LuisDantas]

You may not believe it but a better educated world will be a better world. We will always have evil people but educated people will be able to limit their evil more than an ignorant race of people. Too bad you seem to favor the ignorant's chances of srvival over the informed. I would say that the chances of their being another Hitler in Germany are zero. Evil did lose in the end but I do think Hitler thought he would win.

What happened? I am actually agreeing with you.

 

[waitasec]

There's a very good reason why America used to lead the world in production and why it no longer does. The answer is democratic and socialistic mechanisms making it more and more difficult to produce anything of value.

the reason america lead the world back in the day was because we adopted german scientists...

At war’s end, American, British, and Soviet scientific intelligence teams competed to capture Germany's rocket engineers along with the German rockets themselves and the designs they were based on.[12] Each of the Allies captured a share of the available members of the German rocket team, but the United States benefited the most with Operation Paperclip, recruiting von Braun and most of his engineering team, who later helped develop the American missile and space exploration programs. The United States also acquired a large number of complete V2 rockets.[10]

Space Race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

another good reason why america was in the lead in production is because the germans and the rest of the world were busy rebuilding their country after WWII...

now not so much because the playing field has been leveled...
from what i gather...

 

[Debunker]

It only works when there aren't more free alternatives readily accessible. As soon as a New America is rebuilt with the same freedoms it once had, guess where most all talent in socialist nations are going to flee to? There's a very good reason why America used to lead the world in production and why it no longer does. The answer is democratic and socialistic mechanisms making it more and more difficult to produce anything of value.

Bug, you live in a fantasy world. We still lead the world in production. America is not dead and the liberals who say the USA is finished only speak for themselves.
If you think your religion is going the rule the world, you are mistaken again.

If you listen to and believe the liberal explanation of how badly the USA has gone off the path of world righteousness then you will be depressed and defeated. The critics of American idealism are in the wrong fishing boat. Even in these difficult economic cycles, the unemployment rate is much than most of the industrial world, our inflation is lower, and our future is bright. I for one do not live in an America that is beat down like AE, GeneCosta, Proud 2bGay, Luminous, Darkness, etc., and now you talk about. It is a fact that America is mostly conservative and the rest of the world is headed that way in a very alarming pace. American idealism is sought by all people who love and seek freedom. This is becoming a historical reality. If you can not see this, you are blind.

 

[Debunker]

i think most americans think they will be rich one day, that's why socialistic ideas are scary...

See how blind you are? By world standards, most Americans are rich!

 

[waitasec]

See how blind you are? By world standards, most Americans are rich!

no they are not. have you ever visited europe?

 

[waitasec]

We still lead the world in production.

because our factories are much more automated, the number of manufacturing jobs in the US keeps declining. What took, say, 100 people to manufacture 25 years ago now takes maybe 5 people....

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