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why do athiest insist they dont need any rules to live by ...when you see the state of mankind today

i mean atheist are always saying we don’t need someone to tell uis what is right and wrong and so on and on .......ummmm i beg to differ ig you look at the human race today , they are lost - children murdering and raping other children , people don’t respect anyone anymore and just the general breakdown of mankind .....i think they really need guidance and rules if you want to govern them .....what do you think of the state of mankind today …it seems clear mankind wants to self destructed
 

averageJOE

zombie
Your absoulutly right. The ONLY reason why I'm not going on a killing spree through my neighborhood is because God told me not to. I am completly incapable of making that desicion myself. And that goes for the rest of humanity. We wouldn't know that raping 6 month old babies and then eating them is bad, so we need God to make a rule against it.
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
i mean atheist are always saying we don’t need someone to tell uis what is right and wrong and so on and on .......ummmm i beg to differ ig you look at the human race today , they are lost - children murdering and raping other children , people don’t respect anyone anymore and just the general breakdown of mankind .....i think they really need guidance and rules if you want to govern them .....what do you think of the state of mankind today …it seems clear mankind wants to self destructed

LoL. I am really sorry guys this guy been reading my thread and being a copy cat. :D I am sure you will be able to nail him down. I shall do the honours and start it off:

Truthseeker do the honest thing and let us know what is your believe system?

Can you answer? I have so far asked you twice now but no reply.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
i mean atheist are always saying we don’t need someone to tell uis what is right and wrong and so on and on .......ummmm i beg to differ ig you look at the human race today , they are lost - children murdering and raping other children , people don’t respect anyone anymore and just the general breakdown of mankind .....i think they really need guidance and rules if you want to govern them .....what do you think of the state of mankind today …it seems clear mankind wants to self destructed

Are you seriously proposing that your religion is a good authority on matters of right and wrong?
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
i mean atheist are always saying we don’t need someone to tell uis what is right and wrong and so on and on .......ummmm i beg to differ ig you look at the human race today , they are lost - children murdering and raping other children , people don’t respect anyone anymore and just the general breakdown of mankind .....i think they really need guidance and rules if you want to govern them .....what do you think of the state of mankind today …it seems clear mankind wants to self destructed

The vast majority of people on the planet belong to religions with rules. Seeing that mankind is in such bad shape, obviously the guidance provided by religions is rather worthless.
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
honestly - rastafarian - why does it matter - you still not aNSWERED THE QUESTION - what copy cat i dont know waht you talking about

So you follow the teachings of the old testement very closely, right?

If this is the case you will have a poster in the name of AUTODIDACT very shortly here to discuss with you. :D

I am going to enjoy this I will get my :popcorn: and a cold ice glass of coke.
 
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never said that -----please read the question again waht i am saying is we have to have laws ion society otherwise it will be choas , and mankind is so lost at the monets and seems to be getting wrose and worse as they days go on - and your are telling me mankind does still not need guidance
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
i mean atheist are always saying we don’t need someone to tell uis what is right and wrong and so on and on .......ummmm i beg to differ ig you look at the human race today , they are lost - children murdering and raping other children , people don’t respect anyone anymore and just the general breakdown of mankind .....i think they really need guidance and rules if you want to govern them .....what do you think of the state of mankind today …it seems clear mankind wants to self destructed

Given misbehavior by priests, rabbis, imams & others who profess piety, I think they should come & seek counsel from me.
I can advise not to rape children, rob or promote terrorism. I've no god, but even I have better values than some of these bozos.

I know, I know....it's unfair to Bozo the Clown.
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
Given misbehavior by priests, rabbis, imams & others who profess piety, I think they should come & seek counsel from me.
I can advise not to rape children, rob or promote terrorism. I've no god, but even I have better values than some of these bozos.

I know, I know....it's unfair to Bozo the Clown.

Do not include muslims if you please. in statistical academia research material it is like an ANT to an ELEPHENT. The Ant being a Secular ant. :D

Back to square 1.
 

Just_me_Mike

Well-Known Member
I have a theory that as mankind leaves the umbrella of religion there will be times of uncertainty, awkward adjustment periods for many, but over time the golden rule would kick back in naturally and without prompting from any religions.
 

Storm

ThrUU the Looking Glass
why do athiest insist they dont need any rules to live by
Simple: they don't.

i mean atheist are always saying we don’t need someone to tell uis what is right and wrong and so on and on
Wrong again. Atheists say we don't need Bronze Age goat herders to tell us how to behave after millennia of progress. And they're right.

.......ummmm i beg to differ ig you look at the human race today , they are lost - children murdering and raping other children , people don’t respect anyone anymore and just the general breakdown of mankind .....i think they really need guidance and rules if you want to govern them .....what do you think of the state of mankind today …it seems clear mankind wants to self destructed
And most of those people are religious.

never said that -----please read the question again waht i am saying is we have to have laws ion society otherwise it will be choas , and mankind is so lost at the monets and seems to be getting wrose and worse as they days go on - and your are telling me mankind does still not need guidance
Laws based on reason are vastly superior to those based on dogma.

The laws of the Bible are outdated. Humanity has evolved.
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
never said that -----please read the question again waht i am saying is we have to have laws ion society otherwise it will be choas , and mankind is so lost at the monets and seems to be getting wrose and worse as they days go on - and your are telling me mankind does still not need guidance

We have laws and guidance. Plenty of it - seeing that the vast majority of people belong to religions which provide both laws and guidance. However, seeing that mankind is lost and getting worse, apparently the laws and guidance provided by these religions isn't helping, and, in fact, could be part of the problem.
 

301ouncer

Well-Known Member
yeah but do they follow it like the supposed to ? possibley no .....so its ponitnless to follow something incorrectly

I am out of here. He does not know how to use the Quote feature.

I might come back when Autodidact does come into it. otherwise I am out.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Do not include muslims if you please. in statistical academia research material it is like an ANT to an ELEPHENT. The Ant being a Secular ant.

Hey, I gotta be fair & inclusive.

Did you know that if you look down from the top of a tall building, your uncle looks like an ant?
 

EverChanging

Well-Known Member
I have a theory that as mankind leaves the umbrella of religion there will be times of uncertainty, awkward adjustment periods for many, but over time the golden rule would kick back in naturally and without prompting from any religions.


There are always times of uncertainty and awkward adjustment, religion or no religion, but I don't think the religious instinct in humans is ever going away....It is an instinct that can be channeled for better or worse.
 
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