Why do bad things happen when God exists?

[ThePainefulTruth]

If there is God and He is good, then why does “bad” exist? What is the reason for God to create all that is bad? Why couldn’t God create a world that has only bliss and happiness? Why has God made suffering? Why has God made problems? Why has God made poverty? Why do we suffer? Why do we fall sick? Why has God made death? If God is such a good God and if He is the creator of the universe, then why has He created this whole concept of suffering? Why has He let people become terrorists? Why has He let people create pain? And this is not just about people. Look at the animal world. Why has He created it in such a way that the tiger kills the deer, the cat eats the mouse, and the dog chases the cat? Why has God made the world like this?

We can go on asking questions as to why God has created the world like this, but the question that we need to ask ourselves is that should we question this way? Should we question His authority – Why He has done this? What He has done? Do we know better about what He has done, or does the Creator know better about what He has done? So from our limited intelligence and viewpoints, is it right to comment on or question and be judgmental about what God has created and why God has created so?

Why are we questioning what God has done? Why do we doubt God’s intentions? Why do we question God’s plan for our life? Why do we question what God has created on Earth? Should we not spend time pondering upon these rather than questioning what God has done? This is the question I ask myself today.

AiR

God, if It exists, doesn't create bad, or evil. God created us with free will to choose between good and evil. It's the sole purpose for creating the universe. If God were to interact in the slightest way, it would negate that free will. But our lives, against the backdrop of eternity, are but a blink. I'm sure those who pass the test would feel any suffering was a small price to pay to demonstrate to God and themselves, that they were worthy. And those who don't pass it can opt for oblivion and avoid the eternal suffering through exile of their corrupt souls.

 

[Scott C.]

Well did the Lord say,

Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

I'm not sure if you're agreeing with me.

 

[The_Fisher_King]

If there is God and He is good, then why does “bad” exist? What is the reason for God to create all that is bad? Why couldn’t God create a world that has only bliss and happiness? Why has God made suffering? Why has God made problems? Why has God made poverty? Why do we suffer? Why do we fall sick? Why has God made death? If God is such a good God and if He is the creator of the universe, then why has He created this whole concept of suffering? Why has He let people become terrorists? Why has He let people create pain? And this is not just about people. Look at the animal world. Why has He created it in such a way that the tiger kills the deer, the cat eats the mouse, and the dog chases the cat? Why has God made the world like this?

We can go on asking questions as to why God has created the world like this, but the question that we need to ask ourselves is that should we question this way? Should we question His authority – Why He has done this? What He has done? Do we know better about what He has done, or does the Creator know better about what He has done? So from our limited intelligence and viewpoints, is it right to comment on or question and be judgmental about what God has created and why God has created so?

Why are we questioning what God has done? Why do we doubt God’s intentions? Why do we question God’s plan for our life? Why do we question what God has created on Earth? Should we not spend time pondering upon these rather than questioning what God has done? This is the question I ask myself today.

AiR

Maybe God did not create all that is bad. Maybe God is not omnipotent.

 

[idav]

God, if It exists, doesn't create bad, or evil. God created us with free will to choose between good and evil. It's the sole purpose for creating the universe. If God were to interact in the slightest way, it would negate that free will. But our lives, against the backdrop of eternity, are but a blink. I'm sure those who pass the test would feel any suffering was a small price to pay to demonstrate to God and themselves, that they were worthy. And those who don't pass it can opt for oblivion and avoid the eternal suffering through exile of their corrupt souls.

Except most issues are from nature itself. Does god hate people?

Here is the top 10, (god, god , god, chance, god, god , god, god )is the reason for death.

• Heart disease.
• Cancer (malignant neoplasms)
• Chronic lower respiratory disease.
• Accidents (unintentional injuries)
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases)
• Alzheimer's disease.
• Diabetes (diabetes mellitus)
• Influenza and pneumonia.
• 
  
• https://www.google.com/#q=top+reasons+for+death

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

Except most issues are from nature itself. Does god hate people?

Here is the top 10, (god, god , god, chance, god, god , god, god )is the reason for death.

• Heart disease.
• Cancer (malignant neoplasms)
• Chronic lower respiratory disease.
• Accidents (unintentional injuries)
• Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases)
• Alzheimer's disease.
• Diabetes (diabetes mellitus)
• Influenza and pneumonia.
• 
  
• https://www.google.com/#q=top+reasons+for+death

I don't know what you're talking about. Those are all natural, and they aren't evil they just are. Not even death is evil. Without it, we'd have to put up with the foibles of our bodies forever--which would be the worst possible outcome, compared to there being no Hereafter, or an exciting afterlife without all the evil a******s.

 

[idav]

I don't know what you're talking about. Those are all natural, and they aren't evil they just are. Not even death is evil. Without it, we'd have to put up with the foibles of our bodies forever--which would be the worst possible outcome, compared to there being no Hereafter, or an exciting afterlife without all the evil a******s.

Cause nature does more destruction and death than than humans, humans can't possibly do that much damage, we are trying to cure and prevent most of that stuff. So god is off the hook for all those happenings even though it isn't even humans fault for the majority of horrible stuff that happens. Before your saying evil is in the world because humans have free will, but humans aren't even the reason bad things happen for the most part.

 

[uncung]

God created the bad things.

 

[idav]

God created the bad things.

Right? What a jerk. And futile to try and tell god what to do, "send that bad stuff over there not here", as if he hadn't already made up his mind.

 

[uncung]

Right? What a jerk. And futile to try and tell god what to do, "send that bad stuff over there not here", as if he hadn't already made up his mind.

We can do nothing.

 

[idav]

We can do nothing.

Well we at least have free choice or it makes punishment kinda unjust but we are not the ones making most the problems in the world.

 

[uncung]

Well we at least have free choice or it makes punishment kinda unjust but we are not the ones making most the problems in the world.

Free choice is related to the good and bad deeds. I thought you talk about the bad things that constantly happen in this world, and it has nothing to do with our free will, but rather it is because God wants it to happen. It is what I mean: we can do nothing.

 

[idav]

Free choice is related to the good and bad deeds. I thought you talk about the bad things that constantly happen in this world, and it has nothing to do with our free will, but rather it is because God wants it to happen. It is what I mean: we can do nothing.

Right just making sure i understood right also.

 

[muhammad_isa]

Free choice is related to the good and bad deeds. I thought you talk about the bad things that constantly happen in this world, and it has nothing to do with our free will, but rather it is because God wants it to happen. It is what I mean: we can do nothing.

Salam,
Hmm .. a bit more complicated than that, though .. it's not just about an individual's good and bad deeds, it's about mankind's (collective) behaviour.
Almighty God does NOT want us to drop atomic bombs on cities, for example .. he can intervene or not as He wills

 

[uncung]

Salam,
Hmm .. a bit more complicated than that, though .. it's not just about an individual's good and bad deeds, it's about mankind's (collective) behaviour.
Almighty God does NOT want us to drop atomic bombs on cities, for example .. he can intervene or not as He wills

bad things such as: natural catastrophes, earthquake, typhoon, Katrina, and so on. They have nothing to do with our free will, at least, in direct. And God created them all. We can do nothing. Just because bad things happen doesn't mean God doesn't exist. It is the point.

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

Salam,
Hmm .. a bit more complicated than that, though .. it's not just about an individual's good and bad deeds, it's about mankind's (collective) behaviour.
Almighty God does NOT want us to drop atomic bombs on cities, for example .. he can intervene or not as He wills

God can't intervene, or it's the end of free will--it's that simple. And collective would have nothing to do with it This life is a test to see what we do with the gift of free will. Free will is exercised individually, not collectively. If only one person passes the test, then only one person passes.

 

[muhammad_isa]

bad things such as: natural catastrophes, earthquake, typhoon, Katrina, and so on. They have nothing to do with our free will, at least, in direct. And God created them all. We can do nothing. Just because bad things happen doesn't mean God doesn't exist. It is the point.

I don't agree with that. We may not be able to do anything individually about catastrophes, but collectively we can. 'Climate change' is one example where collective behaviour has an influence on so called 'natural disasters'

 

[muhammad_isa]

God can't intervene, or it's the end of free will--it's that simple.

Wrong! What about Noah's Ark? You might not believe it happened, but believers do.

And collective would have nothing to do with it..

Nothing to do with what?

 

[ThePainefulTruth]

Wrong! What about Noah's Ark? You might not believe it happened, but believers do.

There you go, and the believers are wrong, at least about the supernatural details. All supernatural events and revelation are either legend, allegory or outright wrong, with no supporting evidence but 100% hearsay.

Nothing to do with what?

Judgement for collective behavior. Y'know I think that comment is very telling. Islam justifies mass murder as justice against a group for reasons other than self-defense. Conquest for Allah is mandatory for Muslims either through war are subterfuge. The cost to innocent individuals is necessary whether Muslim or others:


Quran (9:29):

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Religion of Truth, indeed.

 

[muhammad_isa]

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Conquest for Allah is mandatory for Muslims either through war are subterfuge. The cost to innocent individuals is necessary whether Muslim or others:


Quran (9:29):

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."

Religion of Truth, indeed.

That's rubbish! You take one verse and render it into evil.
I am a Muslim and you are trying to teach me my religion?
Do you want Islam to mean kill all unbelievers? Is that what you want? War and violence?
Which football team do you support? Shall we have a fight about that?
Pathetic!

 

[Sonofason]

If there is God and He is good, then why does “bad” exist? What is the reason for God to create all that is bad? Why couldn’t God create a world that has only bliss and happiness? Why has God made suffering? Why has God made problems? Why has God made poverty? Why do we suffer? Why do we fall sick? Why has God made death? If God is such a good God and if He is the creator of the universe, then why has He created this whole concept of suffering? Why has He let people become terrorists? Why has He let people create pain? And this is not just about people. Look at the animal world. Why has He created it in such a way that the tiger kills the deer, the cat eats the mouse, and the dog chases the cat? Why has God made the world like this?

We can go on asking questions as to why God has created the world like this, but the question that we need to ask ourselves is that should we question this way? Should we question His authority – Why He has done this? What He has done? Do we know better about what He has done, or does the Creator know better about what He has done? So from our limited intelligence and viewpoints, is it right to comment on or question and be judgmental about what God has created and why God has created so?

Why are we questioning what God has done? Why do we doubt God’s intentions? Why do we question God’s plan for our life? Why do we question what God has created on Earth? Should we not spend time pondering upon these rather than questioning what God has done? This is the question I ask myself today.

AiR

Personally, I believe bad, or evil is just a concept, not something that actually exists. Sure we can speak of it, but there really is no such thing. It's not there. It doesn't exist. We often create words simply to represent a lack or absence of something. For example, we have the word darkness. It doesn't really exist. Darkness is not something that does exist. It is a word that represents a state where there is a lack or absence of something, namely light. Light exists. Darkness is simply the lack or absence of light. It is not something. It is nothing. And nothing does not exist.