I sometimes say that Islam owes much to its own involuntary heretics. That is true of Christianity as well.
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Why do christianity get so much hate?
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Altfish
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As explained elsewhere, the thread is about Christianity only.
Soandso
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This is true, but not all religions have the political power to actually enforce these views onto people who don't practice their religion; at least, not in the USA
It's weird how they seem to think that religious people are the odd ones.
The real problem of Christianity is its serious deficiency in tools for self-analysis and course correction. It is just way too dogmatic and yet suitable to justification of moral vices aplenty - with little more than discreet regret from other Christians to encorage it to ever learn better.
I don't think that can possibly be true even if you count believers as opposed to creeds.
I don't call them religious. Or even "odd".
To put it gently, they are believers in the justificational power of belief itself.
Not a healthy thing.
Outside of the West many people are extremely conservative and follow what Haidt refers to as sociocentric morality (mine, too). This is the real divide.
I offered them along with Christian Dominionists only as....
strong theocratic influence in USA because
they hold high positions, eg, House Speaker
Mike Johnson.
How often are those views adhered to with levels of arrogance and entitlement typical of Christiany and Islam, though?
It seems to me that other cultures have an easier time curbing the excesses. Many a Christian seems to be not only proud of his lack of common sense, but also offended that there are those who question his judgement.
Worse still, they often achieve enough political influence to make that law to some extent. That is shameful and worse.
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It's because persecution of Christians for being Christian isn't really a thing.
There are places in the world where it's dangerous to oppose Islam, for instance, or the regime in power and Christianity may be caught up in that, but all of the places where Christians are being singled out for persecution are cases of Christian sectarian violence.
Up here in the frozen north, we don't go out in winter so there's no hate at all for that part of the year!
We are, however, composed of humans. Regular humans with regular human faults. We don't seem to have a lot of Christian-to-Christian conflict (that I'm much aware of, anyway). We've certainly had to fight many Christians (and other religions) in seeking same-sex marriage rights, but we got there, and most people are okay with it (or pretty much silent when they're not).
We do have more anti-Muslim and anti-semitism than I'd like, but Canada is really one of the most multi-cultural nations on earth -- intentionally so -- so one has to expect some of that. By and large, however, most people seem to get along quite well.
Starlight
Spiritual but not religious, new age and omnist
wow so you do not think some christians in the world are being persecuted and killed for their faith? Just search on google on christians who is being persecuted and killed. You will find many proof of that
Treasure Hunter
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It’s pretty simple. Christianity is the biggest threat to bring justice against God since it contains the teachings of Christ himself. There is a part of God which wants it undermined and weakened.
I sometimes hear Muslims talk about how God wants Islam to take over the world. This is exactly right, but it’s not because Islam is more true than Christianity. Muhammad received his revelations and Islam came into being for the primary purpose of undermining the threat of Christianity against this fallen version of God.
I sometimes hear Muslims talk about how God wants Islam to take over the world. This is exactly right, but it’s not because Islam is more true than Christianity. Muhammad received his revelations and Islam came into being for the primary purpose of undermining the threat of Christianity against this fallen version of God.
You really ought to provide your own evidence before being so shocked.
The closest that I am aware of is the reality in some Muslim-majority communities. Which is far more a matter of Islam than of hatred of Christianity specifically.
I'm sure there are a few, but mostly at the hands of other Christians.
I did. I'm not seeing what you're seeing.
Treasure Hunter
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You assume it’s wrong because you disagree.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I would say mostly because Christianity doesn't really have a very good track record of honesty, rationale, reliability, and accuracy , and as with all the abrahamic religions, possess a notably violent and brutal past including its own infighting.
I would say in the modern era actual hate could apply in some places such as the middle east, but I don't think Christianity is overall hated as much. It's actually more contentious now garnering dislike more than outright hate where a person would want to go out and actually harm or kill Christian adherents.