Why do gays want to get married?

[Kerr]

Animals aren't intelligent enough - surely that is obvious.

Of course men and women were designed, either by God or Nature - take your pick.

That does not mean homosexuality is unnatural or that they should not be allowed to get married.

Homosexuals should not get married because it is abusing the system for financial gain, is not what marriage was intended for and distorts the fabric of society.

In what way are couples who want the same rights and freedoms as everyone else abusing the system?

And just to point out the obvious, but alcohol is far more damaging to society then same sex marriage could ever be. Does that mean we should ban it as well?

 

[Revoltingest]

That does not mean homosexuality is unnatural or that they should not be allowed to get married.

Even it it is "unnatural", I still see no reason to restrict the marital rights of gay folk.
What is unnatural anyway, given the wide spectrum of human characteristics?
It seems a largely arbitrary designation.

 

[McBell]

Even it it is "unnatural", I still see no reason to restrict the marital rights of gay folk.
What is unnatural anyway, given the wide spectrum of human characteristics?
It seems a largely arbitrary designation.

I suspect that the word "unnatural" here is being used to mean "anything I think is disgusting".

 

[Revoltingest]

I suspect that the word "unnatural" here is being used to mean "anything I think is disgusting".

If we banned everything which I found disgusting, we'd need a pretty powerful authoritarian government.
As long as I get to be in charge, that's OK.

 

[markr1506]

Not at all - a man and woman marrying is natural. It is good for society and acts as a role model.

Also having Mr and Mrs tells other suitors to stay away. It is not the same with homosexuals as they are more predatory and promiscuous.

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You seem to know a lot about Gay life>>>>NOT.

I have been with my partner for 12 years, we are legally married. At our service my 80 year old mother attended along with my ex-wife and three grown up daughters. Our wedding was a family affair and both families were over the moon with finally seeing the law changed so that we were able to marry.

I find it offensive and bigoted that you refer to gay people as "Predatory and promiscuous"

 

[9Westy9]

Maybe you are just more gay

or just a country with more equal rights

 

[9Westy9]

Basically because it is a sham.

1) Explain how same sex marriage is a sham
2) Is that the only reason? Because I and a lot of other people certainly wouldn't agree (unless you want to show us why it's a sham)

1. something that is not what it purports to be; a spurious imitation; fraud or hoax.
2. a person who shams; shammer.
3. a cover or the like for giving a thing a different outward appearance: a pillow sham.

 

[9Westy9]

The same could be said about drug abuse, bestiality, incest and a whole host of other issues.

and anything else you don't partake in like polo, curling, darts etc.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Why would you especially want to take on a hetero concept/system of marriage other than to exploit the system financially?

Marriage isn't a specifically "hetero" concept.

Homosexual marriage?

I can't understand the logic behind this. For sure, some people have relationships with those of the same sex - I can understand that.

But why bother getting married?

I really cannot see the purpose.

Why would anyone want to do this and how come it is legal in some places?

Surely this should be banned.

Logically, "I can't see the purpose" only gets you to "I shouldn't get into a same-sex marriage myself". To get to "this should be banned", you need "I *know* there is no reason".

I hope you're not assuming that just because YOU can't see a reason, that there must not be a reason, because this would be very arrogant (and more to the point, illogical) on your part.

 

[Madhuri]

Not at all - a man and woman marrying is natural. It is good for society and acts as a role model.

Also having Mr and Mrs tells other suitors to stay away. It is not the same with homosexuals as they are more predatory and promiscuous.

Marrying is natural?
Nope, it's a man-made social construct.

I think you mean that male/female sex is natural.
Again you are incorrect. People wouldn't have sexual attraction for the same sex if it were not natural. If you disagree, look up the definition of 'natural'.

I don't think homosexuals are more promiscuous. Heterosexuals are extremely promiscuous. I don't think you can get more promiscuous. It's called being human.

Also, if homosexual couples were able to marry, that would serve to tell other suitors to 'stay away' just as much as a married heterosexual couple.

I think your arguments are based on strong bias and your reasons are heavily flawed.

 

[Madhuri]

Men and Women were designed to be couples, even animals know that.

Actually, plenty of homosexuality among animal species.
Men and women are designed to reproduce. That doesn't mean that they can only naturally have sex with one another.

 

[blackout]

It's funny because in one breath we're told (by nnmartin) that gays are promiscuous,
and in the next we're told they shouldn't be allowed to marry.
Even though so many committed gay (promiscuous ) couples WANT to be legally married.

Are you trying to make sure they remain unmarried,
nnmartin,
so that you can keep saying they're promiscuous
just because they're not "married"?

 

[Madhuri]

Homosexuals should not get married because it is abusing the system for financial gain, is not what marriage was intended for and distorts the fabric of society.

Abusing the system? Again, I think you are heavily biased and blinded by that bias.

Marriage was originally intended for certain purposes. But systems change as society changes. Are you against change?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

There are a lot of ways people relate to each other that have changed the social and familial structure culturally and economically over time. What was typical in the past may not be the ideal today.

Shall we ban mothers in the workforce? Baby formula? Day care? The culture has changed merely in the last few generations how mothers relate to and spend time with their children. Is that "unnatural"?

How about vasectomies? Altering a man's reproductive capability..."unnatural"? Shall we ban them too?

Humans - it has been argued - are social creatures. Are we to ban hermits from living alone far away from tribes/communities? Are hermits "unnatural"?

There are plenty of "unnatural" sexual practices between heterosexuals that have nothing to do with procreation. Shall we ban them too?

Ah well....I'm jumping on the trampoline and taking a break. :trampo:

 

[Trey of Diamonds]

Actually, plenty of homosexuality among animal species.

Yep, and rapist too. Did you know that ducks are notorious rapists? Not relevant I know but pretty crazy non the less.

 

[Jainarayan]

Prime example of heterosexual depravity.

I would not prey on that. ^

I would, however, prey on this...

:drool:

 

[Kerr]

Even it it is "unnatural", I still see no reason to restrict the marital rights of gay folk.
What is unnatural anyway, given the wide spectrum of human characteristics?
It seems a largely arbitrary designation.

According to my rather literate view on the terms "natural" and "unnatural" (natural stuff exists in nature, like homosexuality, while unnatural stuff does, like cars), people should not be allowed to use the internet .

In all seriousness, I have to agree. People care too much of what is natural and not

 

[Jainarayan]

So are dolphins and porpoises. They gang rape.

 

[Kerr]

I suspect that the word "unnatural" here is being used to mean "anything I think is disgusting".

Well, in that case eating meat is unnatural and so is ****. Lets forbid it!

 

[Kerr]

So are dolphins and porpoises. They gang rape.

Crap! Now I cant get dolphin gang rape out of my head :cover:. And they used to be so cute!