Why do homosexuals and transgenders force religious people to accept them?

[LuisDantas]

Luis I was referring to the fact that the poster giving me advice on how to love told me that I was unworthy of their love and respect and that they view me with contempt. Is that a person you care to hear advice about love from? Nice rant though .

Yes. In fact, who better?

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Yes. In fact, who better?

You want to hear about love from people who despise you?

 

[LuisDantas]

You want to hear about love from people who despise you?

Sure, why not?

 

[Debater Slayer]

You want to hear about love from people who despise you?

Again, since you are apparently trying to avoid this: By your own logic, why should anyone listen to you when you preach your beliefs to people you show contempt to? Or does your logic only apply to others but not to your so-called "Good News"?

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Sure, why not?

Because what the f do they know about it themselves? Sure they love all the people in their life that are easy to love, the ones who agree with them, who support them, who affirm the way they want to live, and most importantly, who love them back. I take lessons on how to love from people who love the vile, the obnoxious, the judgmental, and do so without necessarily having that love reciprocated

 

[Debater Slayer]

Do I really strike you as a guy trying to change people's hearts?

If you aren't, then you sure are doing quite a lousy job of making that clear. Your posts reek of "moral" self-righteousness, especially when you discuss LGBT issues. Yes, you do come across as a preacher, and not in a good way either.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

If you aren't, then you sure are doing quite a lousy job of making that clear. Your posts reek of "moral" self-righteousness, especially when you discuss LGBT issues. Yes, you do come across as a preacher, and not in a good way either.

I view myself as a speaker of truth. There are times when I do so with love and gentleness, that's when I'm trying to change people's hearts. There are times when I speak it with harshness such as in this thread.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I view myself as a speaker of truth. There are times when I do so with love and gentleness, that's when I'm trying to change people's hearts. There are times when I speak it with harshness such as in this thread.

Well, I find it quite tragic that you view the venom you keep posting in these threads as "truth." Good luck with that, then.

 

[gsa]

I view myself as a speaker of truth. There are times when I do so with love and gentleness, that's when I'm trying to change people's hearts. There are times when I speak it with harshness such as in this thread.

Conservative Christians bask in this kind of self-delusion, but make no mistake, you are deceiving yourself if you believe that anyone is convinced you are doing this out of the goodness of your heart or any concern for truth.

It is this attitude that has convinced me that there should be absolutely no olive branch extended to "orthodox Christianity" on the part of non-Christians (or liberal Christians, for that matter). Your beliefs are repugnant to reason, logic, morality, history, experience, science and anything that can be said to constitute truth. Every convert to "traditional" Christianity is a loss for humanity, and should be mourned. For the same reason, every fair step should be taken to marginalize your beliefs, so that no one is ensnared in that disease of the mind which is every bit as dangerous to the body politic as a disease of the body. Humanity's potential depends upon it.

 

[-Peacemaker-]

Conservative Christians bask in this kind of self-delusion, but make no mistake, you are deceiving yourself if you believe that anyone is convinced you are doing this out of the goodness of your heart or any concern for truth.

It is this attitude that has convinced me that there should be absolutely no olive branch extended to "orthodox Christianity" on the part of non-Christians (or liberal Christians, for that matter). Your beliefs are repugnant to reason, logic, morality, history, experience, science and anything that can be said to constitute truth. Every convert to "traditional" Christianity is a loss for humanity, and should be mourned. For the same reason, every fair step should be taken to marginalize your beliefs, so that no one is ensnared in that disease of the mind which is every bit as dangerous to the body politic as a disease of the body. Humanity's potential depends upon it.

Good luck with that Nero

 

[gsa]

Good luck with that Nero

A perfect example of this self-delusion and victimhood mentality in operation. Wanting to marginalize negative belief systems (evangelicalism/fundamentalism, racism, xenophobia, etc) is not equivalent to supporting state-sponsored persecution of evangelicals, racists or xenophobes.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Ooof. Here we go again.

 

[Storm]

you really trying to give me lessons in learning to love?

No, not really. I know my limits, and your redemption is far beyond them.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

I agree with the OP.

Homosexuals do in fact push their lifestyle on others.

I recall two instances:

1 being a cake maker who was either sued or something like that because they refused to bake a wedding cake for a homosexual couple.

and another couple that had a business where they had weddings on their farm, they refused to provide service for a homosexual couple.

This is wrong.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

I agree with the OP.

Homosexuals do in fact push their lifestyle on others.

I recall two instances:

1 being a cake maker who was either sued or something like that because they refused to bake a wedding cake for a homosexual couple.

and another couple that had a business where they had weddings on their farm, they refused to provide service for a homosexual couple.

This is wrong.

these people were Christians who refused because of religious convictions.

 

[Uberpod]

I agree with the OP.

Homosexuals do in fact push their lifestyle on others.

I recall two instances:

1 being a cake maker who was either sued or something like that because they refused to bake a wedding cake for a homosexual couple.

and another couple that had a business where they had weddings on their farm, they refused to provide service for a homosexual couple.

This is wrong.

It is against their religion to have homosexual behavior, not to serve homosexuals. They need to close up shop, or develop boundaries.

 

[Storm]

You want to hear about love from people who despise you?

Why wouldn't you? You expect my friendship when you clearly despise me. At least I'm honest about it, instead of deluding myself that I'm somehow entitled to be warmly embraced as I deny you any semblance of humanity and attack every aspect of your character, despite knowing only that you're left-handed.

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

It is against their religion to have homosexual behavior, not to serve homosexuals. They need to close up shop, or develop boundaries.

a wedding is something sacred to Christianity, to be asked to participate in homosexuality is asking Christians to participate in the sin of homosexuality.

Why should Christians be forced to participate in the celebration of a sexual union that they view as sinful via providing the celebratory cake..?

This is blatant intolerance on the part of homosexuals.

 

[dgirl1986]

I agree with the OP.

Homosexuals do in fact push their lifestyle on others.

I recall two instances:

1 being a cake maker who was either sued or something like that because they refused to bake a wedding cake for a homosexual couple.

and another couple that had a business where they had weddings on their farm, they refused to provide service for a homosexual couple.

This is wrong.

You cannot make a judgement on an entire group of people on two incidences. It is just not logical.

I personally would not go to someone who refused service for people like me, would leave a bad taste in my mouth and I would not want to give them any of my hard earned money.

 

[Storm]

these people were Christians who refused because of religious convictions.

In violation of anti-discrimination laws that everyone is required to obey. If your religious convictions require you to break the law, that's nobody's responsibility but yours.