Why do I hate almost everyone?

[leafer]

I hate to be posting such a bold statement as a topic but honestly I've tried to get along with society and I just can't anymore.

Growing up I was into the material things, cars, money, power,etc.

Now I'm turning 30 in sept and since about 25 I've really begun changing my views on life, animals, plants, nature,etc but I'm looked at like the wierdo because I actually care about the world around us.

At the moment I'm single but am coming off of two long term girlfriends( 3+ years) and I realize for them its all about status and power rather then good nature. I make pretty good money and can live comfortably with what I have and honestly that's enough for me. I don't need to sacrifice my personal time to keep up with the joneses because it really doesn't matter to me anymore.

THE PROBLEM IS:
Since I've made this mental change I'm being alienated from pretty much everyone I used to hang out with and society in general. How did our world turn into this?

Is anyone else in a similar situation and if so, how do you go about your daily life with meeting like minded people?

I've gone from extrovert to introvert over the course of 3-4 years but this is the way I feel and I'm doing what I want to do. Why is this wrong in societies eyes?

Am I wrong?

Thx in advance for your responses and honestly only this type of forum can help me at this point

 

[Quagmire]

Hi Leafer, welcome to RF.

My 2 cents; people are stuff-junkies.

As with any other kind of addiction, if an individual steps away from the addictive behavior he can well expect his old social group to take it as a kind of betrayal.

You can't question your own values without questioning the values of the group and, as with any other group who's association is based on a concensual system of values---religious, political, lifestyle---questioning the core values of the group is an unspoken taboo.

 

[Ðanisty]

Sounds like you're friends treated your friendship in a superficial way too. I wouldn't worry about what other people think. Do what makes you happy. The rest will fall into place.

 

[Booko]

At the moment I'm single but am coming off of two long term girlfriends( 3+ years) and I realize for them its all about status and power rather then good nature. I make pretty good money and can live comfortably with what I have and honestly that's enough for me. I don't need to sacrifice my personal time to keep up with the joneses because it really doesn't matter to me anymore.

Hm...sounds like my brother-in-law. I once repeated that old saw about there being 2 ways to be rich: one is to have a lot of money, the other to have few wants. He responded he wished his ex-wife had understood that.

THE PROBLEM IS:
Since I've made this mental change I'm being alienated from pretty much everyone I used to hang out with and society in general. How did our world turn into this?

The entire world is not that way, though I'll grant our country sure as heck is infused with it. It's hard to escape entirely.

Is anyone else in a similar situation and if so, how do you go about your daily life with meeting like minded people?

Hang out in the food co-op? Yeah, I'm serious.

People who volunteer for things like soup kitchens and the local food bank often have a less materialistic view as well.

I've gone from extrovert to introvert over the course of 3-4 years but this is the way I feel and I'm doing what I want to do. Why is this wrong in societies eyes?

It's perfectly normal to change a circle of friends after some shift in life.

Many people find that out after they quit drinking (even if they say nada to their friends about their choice), or if a spouse dies, or you get or lose a religion, they lose most, and sometimes all, of their friends. Heck, all I did was find out I had food allergies, and I'm down to two good friends left.

If you're patient, get out there and meet people somehow, and keep an open mind, you'll find there are some like-minded people out there.

 

[Ðanisty]

Heck, all I did was find out I had food allergies, and I'm down to two good friends left.

That's just screwed up! :areyoucra

 

[Quagmire]

A sure way to p**s off your roommates is to wake up before they do.

 

[Booko]

That's just screwed up! :areyoucra

Think about it...whenever you get together with your friends, it usually involves food. Now, I'll take my food if I have to and just order coffee or tea whereever we are, but people are freaked about that and most, quite frankly, can't deal with it.

And of course, going to the movies is out of the question for me. Maybe in a couple of years I can go again. That doesn't bother me so much -- but it's putting quite a cramp on Eibhlin's social life.

I read someone on a corn allery list remark that food allergies are socially isolating. You wouldn't think so, but it's true.

 

[Ðanisty]

Think about it...whenever you get together with your friends, it usually involves food. Now, I'll take my food if I have to and just order coffee or tea whereever we are, but people are freaked about that and most, quite frankly, can't deal with it.

And of course, going to the movies is out of the question for me. Maybe in a couple of years I can go again. That doesn't bother me so much -- but it's putting quite a cramp on Eibhlin's social life.

I read someone on a corn allery list remark that food allergies are socially isolating. You wouldn't think so, but it's true.

It does make sense to me. I've had the same problems dieting and, more recently, when I've been too poor to go out. It makes things weird in restaurants. Really, I don't get what the fuss is about though. Why should anyone care if I'm eating or not? And what is this obsession with food anyway? I can eat food anywhere at any time...if I'm with friends, I'm there to enjoy their company.

 

[Aqualung]

I hate people, too.

 

[Quagmire]

I hate people, too.

I'm Ok with human beings, but people suck.

 

[leafer]

THANK GOD

Someone knows what I'm talking about. Great responses everyone.

I'll always give people the chance to prove otherwise (they aren't materialistic) once I meet them but they've always proven me wrong.

You can't question your own values without questioning the values of the group and, as with any other group who's association is based on a concensual system of values---religious, political, lifestyle---questioning the core values of the group is an unspoken tab

Right on the money Quagmire. I try not to but I can't keep talking about the same old thing over and over. The globalists have done a [SIZE=-1]phenominal in this area.

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Sounds like you're friends treated your friendship in a superficial way too. I wouldn't worry about what other people think. Do what makes you happy. The rest will fall into place.

I've been doing that for the last 4 or so years. There are things I've always wanted to do as a child that I've started to read up on and taken up as a hobby, electronics.

 

[vandervalley]

I've gone from extrovert to introvert over the course of 3-4 years but this is the way I feel and I'm doing what I want to do. Why is this wrong in societies eyes?

Am I wrong?

Thx in advance for your responses and honestly only this type of forum can help me at this point

In my opinion; as long as you don't break the law of the country you are living in and don't do immoral stuffs then u can think and do anything you want.

 

[eudaimonia]

Is anyone else in a similar situation and if so, how do you go about your daily life with meeting like minded people?

Honestly, I think you're just hanging out with the wrong crowd. Meet some different people.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[wizanda]

Personally feel it is down to the lack of community needed….many of these buildings that are supposed to be ‘our’ community centres, are breeding places for all assort of strange meetings……

So instead of people having an open reality, with other peoples from different cultures to meet and be at one with, we have global disharmony of consciousness.

We have separation of society from the very core, where good is bad; as the people self proclaiming them self’s, above others, are far from it….

Yet don’t hate people, it is the things you have learned to do better, that then makes us hate them things….Love people for what they are trying to learn…..

 

[PureX]

Heck, all I did was find out I had food allergies, and I'm down to two good friends left.

You have food allergies? ... Hmmm, ... I don't think I like you, now. *wink*

 

[PureX]

Leafer,

Try to look past it. People are complex, and have lots of different inclination going on in them at the same time. If you get in the habit of looking at them and judging them only by this one trait, you're going to miss a lot of other interesting stuff about them, and frankly, you'd be unfair to do that, as well.

Remember, too, that as we get older, and we acquire some wisdom, we become teachers. Not that we can go around preaching or anything, but by expressing our thoughts and through our actions, we may help others to recognize and aspire to the better aspects in themselves, too.

I'd say "lighten up". People are what they are, and God knows we are all far from perfect. Be strong, but also be forgiving. Look for the good in people, especially your friends. Maybe point out their good qualities to them, even. They already have plenty of folks who are happy to tear them down. Maybe one of the reasons they are materialistic is because they're insecure, and think that if they have lots of stuff, they'll be more respected. So maybe you can show them what it is in them that deserves real respect.

I'm 50 and a taoist. I find that the more willing I become to roll with the punches in life, the happier and healthier I become, and the more I'm able to enjoy the people around me. I'm not saying be a puss or anything, feel free to be and think and speak as you wish. But also try to be open and forgiving whenever you can. Spiritual wealth is defined by spiritual generosity, just as actual wealth is defined by one's ability to be generous.

That's my 2 cents.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Leafer, perhaps you are just depressed, but more likely you have had an Epiphany in your life. Money is not the source of happiness, but having none is very depressing.

Many rich people are the most unhappy people I know. There is a like minded woman out there for you. Perhaps your not looking in the right places for her.

 

[ChristineES]

It has been my observance that anyone who says they hate everyone, really hates him/herself.
In the children's book The Secret Garden, the little girl, Mary Lennox at the beginning thought that everyone was disagreeable, but really she was the one who was disagreeable. She didn't like anyone but it turned she didn't like herself first and foremost. When she learned to like herself, she began to like other people. (some of those kids books have a lot of wisdom.)

 

[Ðanisty]

Personally feel it is down to the lack of community needed….many of these buildings that are supposed to be ‘our’ community centres, are breeding places for all assort of strange meetings……

So instead of people having an open reality, with other peoples from different cultures to meet and be at one with, we have global disharmony of consciousness.

That's a good point, I think. I know in my community, I don't feel like I'm part of it and participating in community activities only makes me feel like more of a misfit. It's a mob mentality kind of thing. The "normal" people get together and think their opinions, decisions, thoughts, etc. are universal. I'd like to think it's an accident...that they just don't realize that there is no "normal" and that other people really just don't think like them. Mostly though, I feel that they believe there is a "normal" and they think they represent it and furthermore, they think it should be applied to everyone else too.

It has been my observance that anyone who says they hate everyone, really hates him/herself.
In the children's book The Secret Garden, the little girl, Mary Lennox at the beginning thought that everyone was disagreeable, but really she was the one who was disagreeable. She didn't like anyone but it turned she didn't like herself first and foremost. When she learned to like herself, she began to like other people. (some of those kids books have a lot of wisdom.)

This is an incredibly over-simplified view and I'm not surprised it came from a children's book. There is nothing more mature about rejecting your own point of view as wrong than rejecting everyone else's point of view as wrong. In fact, I would see it as a point of weakness. Not surprisingly, these sort of lessons are taught by the majority. It's just another means of enforcing conformity on people and obviously, children make a great target for that.

 

[ChristineES]

But...
If one loves himself, then he would not care what anyone else thought of him. He would dismiss it as "their problem" (which is the truth). You don't need to conform to be acceptable to yourself. After all, it is yourself you have to live with. If you like being different, then it should not matter what anyone else thinks. Someone else said that author of the first post is hanging around with the wrong people and with that, I agree.
The whole point that I forgot to mention was that Mary Lennox was very unhappy and did not like herself.