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You've been provided alternate, accurate translations and definitions that to not imply any of these qualities you claim, and you have yet to provide any evidence of these qualities though you were asked.
Absolutely false. ALL ‘Ghost’ definitions are the same. You might pick out one element and say, ‘That is different’, but that’s not a fact of a definition for ALL CASES.
An ALL CASE definition is ‘Disembodied Spirit of a DEAD PERSON’, a wraith, a ha
Can you prove that this isn’t true?
Until you can graciously accept, or at the very least acknowledge, what you've been told here, I'm afraid you're just screaming at the wall.
How are you expecting me to believe what is false… clearly you do not know me!!
Are you sure about that? Maybe look at the religion in my profile to determine if you assumption about me is accurate.
It doesn’t matter what your religious belief is. Moreover we are not to make reference to it…
Also, there's a difference between "posting" against the Trinity and "using the platform to campaign" against the Trinity. I thank you to not misrepresent what I said.
I was NOT posting against the trinity in saying that there’s no such thing as a ‘Holy Ghost’. Read the headline. I believe there is a SPIRIT OF GOD, God’s Holy Spirit, the Spirit of truth.
God’s Spirit of truth is not a ‘Ghost’ by ANY definition.
My guess is that you saw the problem but can’t stand to believe it nor allow anyone else to see and believe it.
Surely you mean "my" truth/fallacy, and not "the" truth/fallacy, yes?
There is only ONE TRUTH.
How can my beliefs, your beliefs, or anyone else's beliefs be objectively right or objectively wrong? They're beliefs. If one can provide irrefutable objective evidence of a belief, the idea is no longer a belief.
What! Are you kidding… maybe I’m beginning to understand why you say what you say and how!!! Wow??!!!
What happened to the pagan God’s, monsters, unicorns, pixies, elves, …. Were they truthful BELIEFS… ‘Yes’… to those who willingly and wrongfully chose to believe in them….
No. I'm saying that anyone who uses the forum as a platform to campaign should be held accountable for their rule violations.
I post what I know is true. If posting the truth offends the forum then it’s the forum that needs to change TO ALLOW TRUTH to be spoken/Written. Otherwise, what do you think? Seeds planted in barren soil? Wise words dismissed because they broke the forum rule that say, ‘Do not offend anyone by telling them the truth if they are wrong!!’?
Tell me,
@Soapy, what you've posted on this forum recently that isn't speaking against the Trinity.
In this thread question is posted about the justification or fallacy of a so-called ‘Holy Ghost’. I did that because I heard several church people preaching about ‘God’s Holy Ghost’ and how the Holy Ghost did this or that … and that the Holy Ghost is a Person … a THIRD person who is Almighty God. I posted the question and you or some claimed it was against trinity….
Yes, I felt the fear that there is no such thing as a ‘Ghost’, let alone, a ‘Holy Ghost’. I mentally visualised you and you believers of like, rushing around with your hands on your heads looking for somewhere to hide and then saying, ‘Better get rid of this poster in case others see the truth he’s telling!!! Whatever should we do if they believe him: ‘Better for us that this one man is thrown off this forum than have many here start to believe him!!’.
Yet is still a belief. Just like the beliefs that can stand to be tested. And beliefs that are true or false to you may not necessarily be true or false to another. Why not just accept that others may not believe as you do and move on?
Ha ha ha… that’s so funny!!! Yes, many people ‘BELIEVE’ different things… If we held to the belief that the world was flat… hmmm…
Copernicus risked his life to show the truth AGAINST THE ESTABLISHED CHURCH BELIEF that the Earth was the centre of the universe… oh dear… how embarrassing when the church finally had to agree (after Galileo also proved it) that they were WRONG!!!…. but it doesn’t change the FACT of a matter. Parallel lines are still parallel even if another person sees it as diverging ‘from their perspective’. Tests show that the lines are the same distance apart - just sone else sees it as different. Let me ask you: Are you saying that the ‘out of line’ person IS RIGHT because they see the lines as diverging? Or should they admit that IT IS ONLY BY THEIR PERSPECTIVE and that a TRUE VIEW sets the lines parallel???
Who was it who did the train speed experiment and concluded that the train was travelling at different speeds according to whether it was moving away from a static point, or moving towards that same point… The truth (you next point) is that the train was travelling at BE SET SPEED all that time. In the story of the ‘Emperor’s Clothes’, the emperor deluded himself thinking his ‘invisible’ clothes were made of the finest silk. Others around were shocked but HAD TO FOLLOW SUIT and congratulate him … But then someone who didn’t know he was supposed be ‘brown-nosing’ the king, declared: ‘The Emperors got no clothes!!!’.
If you choose the wrong perspective to view a truth then, of course you will see it differently… but YOU would be in error!! And when you are shown the truth, do not fight it, prove it to yourself, and then accept it.
Truthful to you, but probably not verifiable...at least not objectively.
‘What is Truth’, Pontius Pilate asked Jesus!!
What I say to you is every way veritable from scriptures. The term ‘Ghost’ ONLY came into use in the Middle Ages. That age was a terrible age of superstition, high paganism, grave ignorance, and false beliefs in unearthly things. Thus myths grew prolifically and people ‘saw’ ways of frightening others by claiming apparitions of dead people haunting the world in ‘white gowns’ or such nonsense … a GHOST. No Ghost ever did anything GODLY. Yet you would have people believe that there is such a thing as GOD’s GHOST???? Is this what trinitariAns are supposed to believe (only because YOU mentioned them!!)
Truth: There is no such thing as a GHOST. Got nothing to do with trinity in that respect but rather just paganistic mythology like Dragons, Mermaids, Phoenix, Unicorns, Fairies, Elves, …and so on.
I have no wish for you to be "thrown off the forum." I only want you to adhere to the rules, respect the beliefs of others, and debate with integrity.
Well, stop intimidating me and posting things that have nothing to do with the thread topic. I have tried several times to ‘stop’ and ‘get back on point’ but you have been unable to do so… any reason? Why not start now: just answer the thread question… EVEN IF you have to begin again….! Does that sound reasonable?
Again, this has nothing to do with what I believe. As most here would be able to verify, I have no horse in the race with regard to the Trinity.
Hmm… Interesting… but even so, if you have no horse in the race about the trinity, and you don’t know about the trinity, and you therefore are arguing at emptiness then how can you be saying what you are saying to me when you know nothing about what you are speaking about?…
A Ghost is (in short) a MALEVOLENT spirit. How then do those who believe in a the Spirit of God, the Spirit of Truth, be a ‘GHOST’?
Please just answer with credible information.
I did answer the topic question. You just didn't like the answer.
If you had answered WITH CREDIBILITY then that would have sufficed. But it is clear that since whatever (and I have asked did you to show me) you answered was incorrect, you could not nor would not respond.
To prove your point, post the answer in the next post. But if you cannot… !
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