Why do the Christians accuse Jesus of writing the NT Bible?

[IndigoChild5559]

True. but . . . Judaism. Christianity, Islam, Baha'i and the many diverse conflicting beliefs in humanity are religious beliefs with "No evidence behind them."

Yes.

 

[Sargonski]

By far the overwhelming majority of all believers of all the conflicting diverse religions "don't think far into the consequences of their beliefs . . . God? "Its a mystery." They just simply accept the beliefs of their ancestors and peers without serious questions as to why they believe as they do.

"Its a Mystery" is a Thought Stopping device -- implanted into adherents intentionally by cult leaders using sophisticated mind control techniques.

 

[IndigoChild5559]

"Its a Mystery" is a Thought Stopping device -- implanted into adherents intentionally by cult leaders using sophisticated mind control techniques.

Sophisticate mind control techniques? LOL

 

[Sargonski]

Sophisticate mind control techniques? LOL

Not so funny to the parents of those who get lured into these cults and brainwashed .. to use a colloquial term. Sophisticated mind control techniques are not fiction my friend.. all too real .. and you may well be under the influence as we speak .. can test this hypothesis if you like

 

[shunyadragon]

"Its a Mystery" is a Thought Stopping device -- implanted into adherents intentionally by cult leaders using sophisticated mind control techniques.

I believe that the belief in God in many diverse and conflicting versions follows the same pattern all lacking an explanation beyond "It's a mystery."

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Not so funny to the parents of those who get lured into these cults and brainwashed .. to use a colloquial term. Sophisticated mind control techniques are not fiction my friend.. all too real .. and you may well be under the influence as we speak .. can test this hypothesis if you like

Your comment started with a complaint about the religious statement "It's a mystery." Saying that a doctrine is a mystery is certainly not a sophisticated mind controlling technique.

 

[shunyadragon]

Not so funny to the parents of those who get lured into these cults and brainwashed .. to use a colloquial term. Sophisticated mind control techniques are not fiction my friend.. all too real .. and you may well be under the influence as we speak .. can test this hypothesis if you like

"These cults?" This is probably true of most if not all religions and their divisions. The accusation of "cults" is revealing concerning how you view people who believe differently. There are likely other beliefs that would call your belief a "cult."

The brainwashing techniques of most religions are very successful, in that regardless of the beliefs much of what they believe would not be considered objectively rational, even rejecting science, but the believers pretty much mostly believe what they are taught by their parents and peers.

 

[paarsurrey]

Why do the Christians accuse Jesus of writing the NT Bible?​

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Bible contradictions

The Gospels have contradictions because Jesus never wrote the Gospels, so Jesus should not be accused/blamed for these contradictions, please. Right?

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[IndigoChild5559]

Why do the Christians accuse Jesus of writing the NT Bible?​

Why do you continue to use this for your posts, when responses have documented for you why it is problematic in more than one way?

 

[paarsurrey]

Following post in another thread is relevant to this thread also.

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Let me explain you better

Ephesians 5
"For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body. But as the church is subject to Christ, so also the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything."
Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself up for her, so that He might sanctify her, having cleansed her by the washing of water with the word, that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless."


What is left out in Luke?


No you got me wrong
How can you prove that the passage in Luke does not over-rule that connection with Matthew?


Hebrews 11:5
"By faith Enoch was taken from this life, so that he did not experience death: 'He could not be found, because God had taken him away.'For before he was taken, he was commended as one who pleased God."

and

"All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth."


No,they died , as explained in Hebrews 11 , but they did not expirience physical death because they were taken by God.


I agree with the first , i disagree with the second since scripture says :
"Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth,for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea."

"Christ also loved the church"

Jesus/Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah, never went to a Christian-Church, not to speak of loving it, the author of
Ephesians has wrongly accused him in this connection, please, right?

Regards

 

[Dimi95]

Following post in another thread is relevant to this thread also.

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Jesus/Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah, never went to a Christian-Church, not to speak of loving it, the author of
Ephesians has wrongly accused him in this connection, please, right?

Regards

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[paarsurrey]

paarsurrey said:
Following post in another thread is relevant to this thread also.

• #530

Jesus/Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah, never went to a Christian-Church, not to speak of loving it, the author of
Ephesians has wrongly accused him in this connection, please, right?
paarsurrey:
#534
Will one quote from Jesus/Yeshua- the truthful Israelite Messiah, in first person, in this connection, please, right??

Regards

 

[Colt]

Why do the Christians accuse Jesus of writing the (whole) Bible?
While Jesus left nothing in writing, nor Jesus dictate anything to anybody. Isn't it a great sinful activity, please?
Right?

Regards

Jesus left no writings on purpose, they would become a fetish.

 

[paarsurrey]

Why do the Christians accuse Jesus of writing the NT Bible?​

One may like to read post #88 in another thread, which is relevant here also:

Bible contradictions​

76.When Jesus entered Capernaum he healed the slave of a centurion.
Did the centurion come personally to request Jesus for this?
(a) Yes (Matthew 8:5)
(b) No. He sent some elders of the Jews and his friends (Luke 7:3,6)

https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~wwu/YaBBAttachments/101_Contradictions_In_The_Bible.pdf
So, Bible-NT neither from GD nor from Jesus, nor from the twelve, please, right??

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Why do the Christians accuse Jesus of writing the NT Bible?​

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Why do the Christians accuse Jesus of writing the NT Bible?​

Why do you persist in your bad English, when you have been informed that the word "accused" makes it seem like a bad thing?

 

[paarsurrey]

And it is really a bad thing when Yeshua did not write/dictate or narrate the contents of the four Gospels himself, why anybody attribute it to Yeshua, right?

Regards

 

[IndigoChild5559]

Add it is really a bad thing when Yeshua did not write/dictate or narrate the contents of the four Gospels himself, why anybody attribute it to Yeshua, right?

Regards

It is inconvenient for us that Jesus never wrote anything himself. But its not like he was a bad person for not doing that. The Buddha never wrote anything either.

 

[Colt]

Add it is really a bad thing when Yeshua did not write/dictate or narrate the contents of the four Gospels himself, why anybody attribute it to Yeshua, right?

Regards

Jesus deliberately left no writings, and his followers didn't write anything for a while after Jesus returned to heaven.

Just look at what holy men have done with the sacred writings of religion! The same priest class who wrote them would eventually make the claim that God wrote them! Look how stunted people are who can't think outside the claims of the Bible?

 

[Tomef]

Isn't it a sinful activity, please?

Regards

What would be sinful about it? I haven’t come across the Jesus wrote the bible notion before, although I know some people think either Adam (not many think this) or Moses (quite a few do) wrote the book of Genesis. If Jesus did write it, I suppose you could take that as proof that he was alive decades after he apparently died.

 

[shunyadragon]

It is an extreme over statement that many people believe Jesus wrote the Bible. The belief is that God/Jesus inspired the writing of the Bible by Christians. Inspiration can be different degrees. Those that believe in a version of literal historically accurate Bible believe the inspiration was complete asif directed directly by God. Though many Christians who do not believe in a literal historically accurate Bible believe in the spiritual inspiration of the message by God in the Bible

The same problem is the Islamic belief in a historically accurate Pentateuch and the Quran inspired by God directly and reject the sciences of evolution, and scientific history of the earth and the universe as do the Christians who believe in a literal Pentateuch directly and accurately inspired by God through Moses..

One the other hand most Jews have evolved a more pragmatic reformed view of scriptures.

Regardless most trends that more believers are accepting science far far too many believers reject science.