Absolutely but living it out is our decision.
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Why Do Theists Believe In God?
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PureX
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It works.
When I look for the transcendent divine, I see it. When I seek it, I obtain it. Life is transcendent (of matter). Life is divine. Love is transcendent (of mere self-consciousness). Love is divine. Freedom, kindness, forgiveness, generosity, wisdom; are all real expressions of transcendence, and of divinity. And they are all in us, to be recognized, and fostered, and shared. "God" is the label I give to the great mystery source, sustenance, and purpose of this transcendent divinity. I don't have to understand it to be a part of it. I just have to trust in it.
Shantanu
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How would you test that the method you use to live it out is failsafe?
Shantanu
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What about all the diseases and disorders of the mind and body that we suffer from: how does love of God equate with that?
PureX
Veteran Member
The sun rises and sets on everything and everyone. Our existence is finite, so that other expressions of existence may have their 'turn'. I see nothing especially 'unloving' in this. Suffering and death are a part of the gift of life. None of us, I don't believe, would refuse that gift because of this.
Shantanu
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I am G
If God wanted living beings to suffer on this planet without material recourse to have the means to end their suffering would He not go down as a vile God, not a divine God?
Unveiled Artist
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How do you know whether you are saved by accepting god as opposed do doing things for god?
From what I experience it is both. It is what you do for god that he approves of to where your acceptance is justified by your actions of love and devotion. Its not just mental acceptance.
Are you solving a concern of yours??
Experience.
My own observations is it has nothing to do with the statements, the statements are just clothing of experiences is all. And yes the clothing is varied and generally mistaken for the experience but thats common outside religion as well so its not a "religious" issue at all. Its a "normal" issue.
My own observations is it has nothing to do with the statements, the statements are just clothing of experiences is all. And yes the clothing is varied and generally mistaken for the experience but thats common outside religion as well so its not a "religious" issue at all. Its a "normal" issue.
I see it like the mindset of a conspiracy theorist: there's a weird kind of comfort that people can get from the idea that, say, God is behind cancer or that there's a massive conspiracy behind the assassination of a president.
In both cases, there's an implicit idea that for bad things to happen, it takes a tremendous, deliberate effort... whether by a god or by some secret cabal. Even if this god or cabal aren't entirely - or even generally - good, the alternative can be frightening to many people.
The idea that a single person or a quirk of coincidence can kill or hurt us can make some people feel very vulnerable and afraid. OTOH, the idea that even a malevolent force is behind everything can give people comfort, since it suggests that they at least won't be subjected to arbitrary misfortune, and also that the intelligence behind everything can potentially be understood (and thereby taken into account) or influenced.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
I would refuse. Life in the grand scope of things in relation to suffering and pain is actually far more terrifying than death.
PureX
Veteran Member
That option has always been available to you, and yet you have not chosen to take it. So I don't really believe you. I think you, as do the overwhelming majority of us, find life to be an amazing experience, in spite of the fact that it includes suffering and death.
Shantanu
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Some fail to fathom that love of God and love from God are human inferences and assumptions that bear no relation to God.
PureX
Veteran Member
... How can you (or anyone) know what bears relation to God, and what doesn't?
shivsomashekhar
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No. Any purpose is imagined/made-up.
Shantanu
Well-Known Member
Because I have attained God-hood through satya-advaita.
Shantanu
Well-Known Member
Yes except that one wishes to attain the status of being God on Earth.
shivsomashekhar
Well-Known Member
(Kind of an after thought follow-up to my thread "Why Is It That Atheists Don't Believe In God?")
In One Word Tell Us Why You Think Theists Believe In God.
After that one word feel free to elaborate.
My one word is "NEED."
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In one word “Fear”.
For reasons of legacy and fear of failure, God becomes an indispensable crutch - one they cannot do without.