I'm still not sure what you're getting at. Pointing it out would help.Any of it.
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Why do you believe the way you do?
- Thread starter Reverend Chris
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Just asked a simple question.
I guess the answer would be "I never made a statement of truth."
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
You lied?
It seems that you are trying to be difficult by not pointing out the flaws in my statement while assuming I was lying.
Oops. Then yes, I do not hold moral beliefs or truths.
YmirGF
Bodhisattva in Recovery
Naw, WIllamena is merely a semantical hairsplitter, imho. It's all good though.
Whoa, I didn't say anything about your moral beliefs. But you do hold truths, even this statement (if it's true).
We all do.
Mmk...
Well, technically semantics has nothing to do with it... but, now, that's semantical.
PureX
Veteran Member
Yes, but one will be a more accurate reflection of actuality (truth) than the other.
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
You're in a strange loop.
Only if truth exists outside of reality. :areyoucra
Smoke
Done here.
That requires the suspension of your critical faculties, though. Why do you, being much more than usually rigorous in your thought, choose to suspend disbelief in this area? Why here and not elsewhere?
PureX
Veteran Member
Reality is truth. Paradigms are only conceptions of reality, they are not reality itself.
PureX
Veteran Member
I just refuse to go to this fantasyland where conceptual paradigms become their own realities. I understand that this is how we experience them, because we are "within" them, but I also understand that they are only reflections of an actual reality that we do not control nor create.doppelgänger;941408 said:
doppelganger
Through the Looking Glass
They are only perceived as reflections of an actual reality. Scientific progress and wisdom occur in the gaps created by embracing uncertainty. When models for reality are no longer recognized as models, God is dead.
PureX
Veteran Member
Some people are aware that their concepts of truth and reality are concepts, and that there is a true reality that exists regardless of our conceptualizations of it, and some people are not.doppelgänger;941466 said:
Scientists tend to understand this discrepancy between what they believe to be real and true, and what actually is real and true. This is why they questions their own assumptions, and do experiments to test them against the evidence of actuality. Yet some of us know that even the scientific method can never truly resolve this discrepancy. The bias is built into the scientist by his limitations of time and space and intellect, etc., and these can never really be eliminated.
Nevertheless, we must hold on to our paradigms, until we find a more reasonable and workable alternative. And so that's what we do.