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Why do you come here? (To atheists)

dallas1125

Covert Operative
HELLO. A believer thinks they are SAVING YOU if they convince you. What are you doing if you convince us? Being right? Way to dream big there killer.
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If an atheist proves they are right, it can change a lot. No more fights over relgious lands, no more stalling of science, no more denying civil rights.
 
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If an atheist proves they are right, it can change a lot. No more fights over relgious lands, no more stalling of science, no more denying civil rights.

Ah, yet another who separates science from God. Did you ever think that maybe science is the "how" and God is the "why"? If there was no right and wrong, you would all be scum to me and I could go live like life's just another copy of Grand Theft Auto and have the time of my life. You don't know the difference in right and wrong though. Go molest a kid real quick and lemme know what happens. Trauma has a severe scientific effect on the brain that can't be explained without concepts like right and wrong. People who commit sick and depraved crimes allow evil to flow into their mind altering their personalities and making them crave even worse things(and more of it too). You just haven't done anything insanely good or insanely bad enough to induce such spiritual phenomenons and their affects on your mind and body. One way to induce this trauma without having to do something terrible or amazing, is DMT. Your moods, your energy, your dreams, and everything you feel... to say they come from you is just stupid. That'd mean that when you're in a bad mood, you're actually not, you're just sitting their torturing yourself making your own life miserable.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Athiests push their beliefs on others because they passionately believe that they are right which is very much the same reason religious people sometimes do.

Ive never understood why athiests come on here though...

because we have a passion for knowledge and we cant stand to see people wallow in there own filth.

we throw them lifelines one after the other and watch most throw it away.

the one that does grab it and get pulled into reality makes it worth while.

not every religious person needs a lifeline. many balance it properly. Most do not. The very second you claim to know science better then a scientist you should throw both hands in the air looking for a lifeline
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Ah, yet another who separates science from God. Did you ever think that maybe science is the "how" and God is the "why"? If there was no right and wrong, you would all be scum to me and I could go live like life's just another copy of Grand Theft Auto and have the time of my life. You don't know the difference in right and wrong though. Go molest a kid real quick and lemme know what happens. Trauma has a severe scientific effect on the brain that can't be explained without concepts like right and wrong. People who commit sick and depraved crimes allow evil to flow into their mind altering their personalities and making them crave even worse things(and more of it too). You just haven't done anything insanely good or insanely bad enough to induce such spiritual phenomenons and their affects on your mind and body. One way to induce this trauma without having to do something terrible or amazing, is DMT. Your moods, your energy, your dreams, and everything you feel... to say they come from you is just stupid. That'd mean that when you're in a bad mood, you're actually not, you're just sitting their torturing yourself making your own life miserable.


you make no sense at all

you do know prison is almost completely full of religious people

right and wrong, moral decisions have nothing to do with a mythical god and what makes you so sure yours is right?
 

McBell

Unbound
Somewhat different though.

Do you wish Jesus was never "invented?"

The better question is: Why would you join a pokemon fan club if you dont care about pokemon?

Because maybe the topic interests you. Maybe you see some type of art underneath the childish exterior.
Maybe because there are those around you who are so into pokemon that they forgo all else and push pokemon into everything, their lives, the law, etc...
 

guilo

Undercover Nudist
Personally I enjoy validating my opinion by testing it against people who oppose it. Sometimes if I'm able to persuade someone to take my opinion on a matter or if I can clarify something for someone, that really pleases me. So I discuss it, because opinions are only of value if they are well informed and what place better than to come to RF and discuss opinions with people of every creed and culture.
 

Autodidact

Intentionally Blank
Personally I enjoy validating my opinion by testing it against people who oppose it. Sometimes if I'm able to persuade someone to take my opinion on a matter or if I can clarify something for someone, that really pleases me. So I discuss it, because opinions are only of value if they are well informed and what place better than to come to RF and discuss opinions with people of every creed and culture.

It's so interesting to find such a like-minded person from across the world! Well met, guilo! This is exactly why I began to participate in these forums--to test my new idea, atheism, by having people on the other side challenge it.

Over the years, when I saw their arguments were either circular, special pleading or contained false statements, it confirmed my suspicions and helped me feel more confident.

But now I just think it's fun.
 

guilo

Undercover Nudist
It's so interesting to find such a like-minded person from across the world! Well met, guilo! This is exactly why I began to participate in these forums--to test my new idea, atheism, by having people on the other side challenge it.

Over the years, when I saw their arguments were either circular, special pleading or contained false statements, it confirmed my suspicions and helped me feel more confident.

But now I just think it's fun.

Well met, Autodidact! Judging by your frubals, you just do it much more often than I do! I tend to get exasperated with people who I feel are inhibiting their frontal lobes to make good reasonable decisions and then I just leave RF for a few months to return later and try again.
 
you make no sense at all

you do know prison is almost completely full of religious people

right and wrong, moral decisions have nothing to do with a mythical god and what makes you so sure yours is right?

Fanatics. Extremists. Those are the Jesusfreaks that make religion so violent and bloody and corruptive. And the morals you speak of wouldn't exist if there wasn't a right way and wrong way. For you to say this life is the whole puzzle rather than just a piece, makes you automatically limit your own understanding of anything that could be bigger or "on a different level" than what you're taught by what you see and are told.
 

Willamena

Just me
Premium Member
This is easily resolvable.

With a yes or no answer, do you believe in the ontological existence of one or more deities?

If yes, you're theist.

If no, you're atheist.

Since this is a true dichotomy, there is no wiggle room for mystispeak.
Existence qualified (as by "ontological") limits the categorization too much to make answering the question meaningful.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Existence qualified (as by "ontological") limits the categorization too much to make answering the question meaningful.
It's meaningful for the purposes of determining whether a person is a theist or an atheist.

'fraid Willamena is correct. There is no objective definition for belief in God.
There doesn't need to be. Theism/atheism is a matter of personal belief... i.e. an individual's subjective definition of God/god/gods, which they either believe in or not.
 
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