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Why Do You Reject Jesus?

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
What is your reason for not accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior? The one who saves us all from eternal death—separation from God—according to the Holy Bible.
Very true but how many Christians do you really think are saved after fragmenting into 45,000 denominations. Instead of putting Christ’s commandment to love one another first they made theological disputes their new God. Where is love? Where is brotherhood? Will the true christianity please stand up.
 

Jimmy

King Phenomenon
Very true but how many Christians do you really think are saved after fragmenting into 45,000 denominations. Instead of putting Christ’s commandment to love one another first they made theological disputes their new God. Where is love? Where is brotherhood? Will the true christianity please stand up.
When “Christ” resurrects 4.36 billion people around 1979. That’s how many.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Who is he speaking to in the Semon on the Mount? Is he speaking in context of the New Covenant or the Mosaic Covenant? Have you fulfilled all of the Sermon on the Mount including “judge not”? Do you have a “mote” while you are trying to pull out specks in other people’s eyes?

Why are you asking me if I have fullfilled all of the Sermon on the Mount - in another desperate deflection from the "Will of the Father" according to Jesus in THIS SERMON .. and then another question showing complete lack of understanding -- and desperation to deflect from what Jesus says is The will of the Father .. in THIS SERMON .

then close with accusing others of having your Mote in their eyes. Jesus is speaking to the lost sheep of Israel .. and/or if you believe that he is the Logos .. he is speaking the word of God for everyone to hear .. which says .. for those with eyes to see and ears to hear .. that the bar is very low .. and so absolutely no need to fullfill all of anything .. for those with eyes to see and ears to hear .. What part of the first line .. Blessed are the Poor in Spirit -- for theirs is the Kingdom of heaven .. did you fail to understand ... in its entirety ? .. Welcome to the club Dort .. cause I did not undertand that one either .. but, at least I made some effort to do so. What effort have you made to understand Line 1 .. the first statement of Jesus .. ZERO .. which is quite something given I mentioned this previously in relation to your "Faith Alone" blasphemy - Heresy - Anti-Christ diatribe .. heck ... sorry .. that one was even to wonky for the Anti-Christ to parrot.

Who is the Chief God over the earth Brother Ken .. and why are you not able to answer this simple question ? .. Do you not believe in the Tester of Souls ? and how did you miss "Severity of Sin" ... clearly stated .. yet you are preaching a different doctrine arn't you misrepresennting "The Word" trying to preach that following the whole law is required for entrance according to Jesus ... that when we stand before Judgement .. this is the scales of Justice used by Jesus. once again putting words in the mouth of our Lord and of our God in the same Breath .. the collective "Our" not including you of course.. as the God of Jesus is not Your God .. and nor are you a follower nor a doer of the Will of Our Father .. who art in Heaven .. Hallowed be thy name .. a name you don't have the faintest idea what it is .. prior to meeting me of course. Now, finally .. you are starting to have some inkling .. Right ! :)
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Why are you asking me if I have fullfilled all of the Sermon on the Mount - in another desperate deflection from the "Will of the Father" according to Jesus in THIS SERMON .. and then another question showing complete lack of understanding -- and desperation to deflect from what Jesus says is The will of the Father .. in THIS SERMON .
Are you saying that the Sermon on the Mount is not the will of the Father? “ For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.” If you haven’t fulfilled it…. what is your solution?
 
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loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
When “Christ” resurrects 4.36 billion people around 1979. That’s how many.
He’s already come and gone and they all missed it because they didn’t watch and pray, so they did not enter the kingdom but those who were awake did enter.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Are you saying that the Sermon on the Mount is not the will of the Father? “ For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken.” If you haven’t fulfilled it…. what is your solution?

No Brother Ken .. once again your brain has managed to reverse reality into a strawman fallacy.

What part of you need not be perfect to get into the pearly gates .. did you misunderstand .. You are told how to behave .. what the father wills .. but if you do not meet perfection does not mean rejection .. Dorp ! Once again we have logical fallacy as the foundation for your belief in reality..

were you going explain who the God of the Earth is at present or at least tell us why you keep avoiding the question .. 5 or 10 times now .. wassup with that thought stopper ? .... and why you want to usurp the word of the logos . with gobledy gook .. blessed are those who are poor in spirit . but not poor in wit .. and full of misdirection .. who is your Father .. .. with all this deceit .. is it the trickster God Loki .. the demiurge from koka woki .. Do you believe in the Tester of Souls Kenny !?
 

loverofhumanity

We are all the leaves of one tree
Premium Member
God and religion to me is all about loving one another, improving our characters and serving humanity. Jesus was all about love one another so if we truly believe in Jesus then why are Christians divided into over 45,000 denominations?
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
No Brother Ken .. once again your brain has managed to reverse reality into a strawman fallacy.

What part of you need not be perfect to get into the pearly gates .. did you misunderstand .. You are told how to behave .. what the father wills .. but if you do not meet perfection does not mean rejection .. Dorp ! Once again we have logical fallacy as the foundation for your belief in reality..

Just trying to figure you out. You seem to be all over the place in your presentation. Your presentation definitely doesn’t have a lining of love in it.
were you going explain who the God of the Earth is at present or at least tell us why you keep avoiding the question ..

Because, by an large, you are all over the place. I had to erase the rest of your questions and comments because they are all over the place. I prefer to let the Bible answer the questions.

Isaiah 45:5
Verse Concepts
“I am the Lord, and there is no other;
Besides Me there is no God.

Psalm 86:10
For You are great and do wondrous deeds;
You alone are God.

Isaiah 37:20
Now, O Lord our God, deliver us from his hand that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that You alone, Lord, are God.”

Deuteronomy 4:39
Know therefore today, and take it to your heart, that the Lord, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other.


What about other gods that are mentioned in the Bible?

Psalm 40:4 Blessed is the one who trusts in the LORD, who does not look to the proud, to those who turn aside to false gods.

Exodus 23:13 “Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips.

Exodus 20:3 “Never have any other god."
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Just trying to figure you out. You seem to be all over the place in your presentation. Your presentation definitely doesn’t have a lining of love in it.


Because, by an large, you are all over the place. I had to erase the rest of your questions and comments because they are all over the place. I prefer to let the Bible answer the questions.

Isaiah 45:5
Verse Concepts
“I am the Lord, and there is no other;
Besides Me there is no God.

Psalm 86:10
For You are great and do wondrous deeds;
You alone are God.

Isaiah 37:20
Now, O Lord our God, deliver us from his hand that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that You alone, Lord, are God.”

Deuteronomy 4:39
Know therefore today, and take it to your heart, that the Lord, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other.


What about other gods that are mentioned in the Bible?

Psalm 40:4 Blessed is the one who trusts in the LORD, who does not look to the proud, to those who turn aside to false gods.

Exodus 23:13 “Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips.

Exodus 20:3 “Never have any other god."

Projection Brother Ken .. look at your post .. which is all over the map not answering the basic questions asked of you -- can not understand that we are dealing with the Sermon on the Mount.

The Sermon on the mount salvation formulation is based on works .. observance of the will of the Father .. belief that Jesus is the Word of the Father who art in heaven. .. upon which you post a raft of scripture from the Old Testament declaring that God is one. This is loopy doopy lost / deflection/ misdirection/ "thought stopage"

Do you or do you not believe in the Tester of Souls .. Chief God over the earth .. and if you wish to introduce OT scripture you are welcome to reference Job .. as opposed to all the scripture that you posted which was composed/ redacted centuries after the Israelites were destroyed when some people known as post exilic Jews were adopting monotheism . what part of "From the Israelite Perspective" are you haveing so much trouble understanding . ?? Job .. have you never read Job ? in reference to the Tester of Jesus ? Mr. seriously all over the map :)

is the tester of souls in Job not a God ? .. in fact stated as one of a number of Sons of God .. presenting before the Most High .. up in Heaven .. not down on Earth. .. what part of this entity .. be it God as is written in the Text .. or Angel or Spirit or what ever wish to call this entity .. has some serious God like Powers .. did you not understand ? Fine this God is not the Most High God .. who is not YHWH .. but the God of Abraham which is EL according to the overwhelming consensus of modern theological scholarship .

Why do you run and hide at the mention of beloved Ha Satan .. beloved of the Most High ... even if you don't favor her much ... I use Her because we are not given a gender for our beloved tester of Souls .. including the soul of Jesus .. at the behest of God Supreme .
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Projection Brother Ken .. look at your post .. which is all over the map not answering the basic questions asked of you -- can not understand that we are dealing with the Sermon on the Mount.

The Sermon on the mount salvation formulation is based on works .. observance of the will of the Father .. belief that Jesus is the Word of the Father who art in heaven. .. upon which you post a raft of scripture from the Old Testament declaring that God is one. This is loopy doopy lost / deflection/ misdirection/ "thought stopage"

Do you or do you not believe in the Tester of Souls .. Chief God over the earth .. and if you wish to introduce OT scripture you are welcome to reference Job .. as opposed to all the scripture that you posted which was composed/ redacted centuries after the Israelites were destroyed when some people known as post exilic Jews were adopting monotheism . what part of "From the Israelite Perspective" are you haveing so much trouble understanding . ?? Job .. have you never read Job ? in reference to the Tester of Jesus ? Mr. seriously all over the map :)

is the tester of souls in Job not a God ? .. in fact stated as one of a number of Sons of God .. presenting before the Most High .. up in Heaven .. not down on Earth. .. what part of this entity .. be it God as is written in the Text .. or Angel or Spirit or what ever wish to call this entity .. has some serious God like Powers .. did you not understand ? Fine this God is not the Most High God .. who is not YHWH .. but the God of Abraham which is EL according to the overwhelming consensus of modern theological scholarship .

Why do you run and hide at the mention of beloved Ha Satan .. beloved of the Most High ... even if you don't favor her much ... I use Her because we are not given a gender for our beloved tester of Souls .. including the soul of Jesus .. at the behest of God Supreme .
You are too funny. Another gospel.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
Isaiah 45:5
Verse Concepts
“I am the Lord, and there is no other;
Besides Me there is no God.



Exodus 23:13 “Be careful to do everything I have said to you. Do not invoke the names of other gods; do not let them be heard on your lips.

Exodus 20:3 “Never have any other god."

Are you purposely posting what you know to be false nonsense or do you really not understand that no other Gods besides me is a reference to other Gods .. and the passages is You shall have no other gods besides me but the humorous thign about Isaiah 45 is the God being referenced is the God of King Cyrus ..

"Worship no other Gods beside me" as in one of the 10 commands = don't worship any of the other Gods .. and every Israelite to a person at the time the commands were supposed to have been chiseled .. believes in other Gods .. and is most often worshiping those other Gods.

but I have been through this before .. what part of ... from the perspective of the Israelite .. what did they believe .. has yet to penetrate the concrete thought stoppage barrier ? The Israelites .. to a person .. believed in the existence of many Gods .. and not only did they believe in other Gods .. you have yet to find a single instance throughout Israelite History in the Bible when they are not also worshiping these other Gods .. and a number in conjunction with Lord YHWH .. as stated over and over and over and over and over in the Bible .. which over and over did not click in .. or is it that you have never actually read the book .. just googling out of contexts quotes from time to time ..

What did you think the role of the male prostitutes in the temple of YHWH was .. how is this ritual related to mono-theism .. and same for the Female Prostitutes .. and what about all those Asherah Trees .. and the Asherah standing stone next to YHWH's on which a mixture of cannibis oil and frankenscense were burning .. think you need some of that fine erb Brother Ken .. mine opening .. or just something to get it rolling .. get it out of thought stopping gear ..
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
You are too funny. Another gospel.

actually .. just 3 chapters in the gospel of Matt 5-7 .. Sermon on the mount .. where the will of the father is given that works based salvation formulation .. that the majority of Christianity accepts. .. but you only ran from that scripture .. like doing now .. and I had asked about the Tester of Souls .. tester of Jesus .. which is in another part of Matt .. so thought if you can not face the Sermon on the Mount you could handle that ?

Do you not believe that the soul of Jesus was tested by the Tester of Souls Ken .. Chief God over the earth it would seem .. Right ! :)
 

ppp

Well-Known Member
LOL

You will have to argue with what God said with…..

God.. ;)
Demonstrate that there is a god to say iit. And that it it is not just one of many earnest, yet mundane humans, such as your self, making hollow boasts.
 

TLK Valentine

Read the books that others would burn.
LOL

You will have to argue with what God said with…..

God.. ;)

Not a problem.
neversaid.jpg
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Demonstrate that there is a god to say iit. And that it it is not just one of many earnest, yet mundane humans, such as your self, making hollow boasts.
Look at creation… it is enough evidence
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
"Look at creation" is a hollow, vapid boast. It is just something Christians say when they have nothing to contribute, but want to sound smug and self-assured.
So we have two people looking at the same evidence and coming to two different conclusions. I’m fine with that. I suppose you have a great theory of how something was produced out of nothing and created an interdependent ecosystem that has purpose
 

stvdv

Veteran Member
What is your reason for not accepting Jesus Christ as your lord and savior? The one who saves us all from eternal death—separation from God—according to the Holy Bible.
A Jesus claiming "I alone am the only way for all", thereby degrading Dharmic Faiths and it's Truth seekers, is a false blasphemous Prophet

Hence I stay far away from such charlatans
 
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