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Why do you think it's wrong for someone else to be gay?

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
It's funny how quickly people seem to forget that watching and getting off on porn is strictly an exercise in voyeurism.

It hasn't been around that long either - lotsa problems with it.

Seems to be getting worse and worse too.

Free internet porn + Capitalism = Serious trouble for humanity

It's already starting to take a noticeable toll.
Hardly.

If anything it helps stimulate the economy in a myriad of ways.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I don't see anything wrong with oral or manual sex. Even a Catholic is allowed to do such things (as long as the husband finishes in the vagina to keep it open to life, is what the teaching would be). It's anal sex that's generally not a good idea. I'll admit to involvement in...backdoor...activities in the past (lol), so it's not like I'm judging. I'm being objective.
Doesn't seem too objective to me. Rather a desire to hyper focus on a taboo and say it's bad despite accepted things getting a free pass (like the cowgirl position even though it sends a lot of guys to the emergency room).
More a reason to promote safe sex and how to have than tell people their sex is "obviously" mismatched and not a good idea. Driving over 200 miles per hour generally is extremely unsafe, but with training and safe conditions it becomes a spectator event.
 

flowerpower

Member
You crazy dreamer!
Human trafficking also relates to freedom of travel,
money, sexuality, 4th Amendment rights, & other
things of value. So we can't blame porn for this.
Yes, seriously.

Why? Sex involves anatomy and as we are discussing sex from an anatomical perspective rather than the mental aspects it makes sense to discuss it in such a manner.

Only if you make it and let it be.
Doesn't seem too objective to me. Rather a desire to hyper focus on a taboo and say it's bad despite accepted things getting a free pass (like the cowgirl position even though it sends a lot of guys to the emergency room).
More a reason to promote safe sex and how to have than tell people their sex is "obviously" mismatched and not a good idea. Driving over 200 miles per hour generally is extremely unsafe, but with training and safe conditions it becomes a spectator event.

Um, do we seriously have to have a discussion about what sexual practices are generally considered to be completely unacceptable?

I mean, moral relativism is a cool concept but there are some things that go with sexual conduct that should be self-evidently regarded as wrong.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Um, do we seriously have to have a discussion about what sexual practices are generally considered to be completely unacceptable?

I mean, moral relativism is a cool concept but there are some things that go with sexual conduct that should be self-evidently regarded as wrong.
One person's perversion is another's good clean fun.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
there are some things that go with sexual conduct that should be self-evidently regarded as wrong.
If people are of age and sound mind and it's consensual there is nothing self evident about it being wrong. Just people who want to take it upon themselves to be the moral judge of others.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yuck.

I mean, you're not wrong. But yuck.

Is this where we should put the brakes on?

I don't know this forum well enough to know what's acceptable to discuss.
Just keep it to what you've defined as weird and don't make it explicit. Ya know, mature adults talking about sex as a bodily function?
 

flowerpower

Member
If people are of age and sound mind and it's consensual there is nothing self evident about it being wrong. Just people who want to take it upon themselves to be the moral judge of others.

LOL Paradoxical post.

You literally just became the person you described -

"If people are of age and sound mind and it's consensual..."

That's an exercise in taking it upon yourself to be the moral judge of others.

I agree with you 100% but let's at least try to be philosophically consistent here.

Why not? It's a good discussion to have.

I was referring to clearly establishing what you and I just established.

Some things aren't just "taboo" - they're straight up crimes and so they ought to be.

We need to shut all that down!

I don't know about shutting it down.

Just educating people on the likely consequences of exposing themselves to what they're being exposed to.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Doesn't seem too objective to me. Rather a desire to hyper focus on a taboo and say it's bad despite accepted things getting a free pass (like the cowgirl position even though it sends a lot of guys to the emergency room).
More a reason to promote safe sex and how to have than tell people their sex is "obviously" mismatched and not a good idea. Driving over 200 miles per hour generally is extremely unsafe, but with training and safe conditions it becomes a spectator event.
Yes, I'm sure the cowgirl position is causing as many health problems per capita as anal sex.

Some things are taboo for a reason. We're talking about the place **** comes out of. It's an extremely unhygienic part of the body, whereas (healthy) genitals aren't. The vagina is part of a female's genitals, the butt isn't.

Why are you ignoring the health aspects of this? Putting a condom on it doesn't make anal sex safe because of the risk of injuries. I've been talking about the health aspects of it the whole time, which you want to ignore and instead twist it into some moralistic thing. It's really annoying.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
Yuck.

I mean, you're not wrong. But yuck.

Is this where we should put the brakes on?

I don't know this forum well enough to know what's acceptable to discuss.
We've had feverish debates about all manner of sexual topics, including incest and beastiality, that went on for days on here. You'll find that many of us here don't understand why anyone would think those things are wrong, as long as you can dream up some sort of "consent". There's a cult of consent here. It's apparently a magical thing that makes all things right, including suicide and murder (to some). This place is really disgusting and depraved at times.
 
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