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Why Does An Archangel From Heaven Have to Debate For Years They Exist?

Do you think Zanda is an archangel?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 8.8%
  • No

    Votes: 30 88.2%
  • Not sure? Ask...

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Total voters
    34

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
There is a level of wisdom, and acceptance needed to be in the Messianic Age; it isn't optional, the Source chooses.

In my opinion. :innocent:
If things are preordained, then it doesn't matter whether mankind is aware of the truth of Oneness or not. It doesn't matter who has accepted the truth, regardless, they may not be chosen for the Messianic Age.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
So in the unlikely event that none of those things happen... Can I owe you a virtual coke in 20 years?
I'd rather we fix the world's religions, and have a drink knowing we're celebrating the success at knowing mankind will survive.

Pretending facts won't happen is wishful thinking, and can lead us to disappointment.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
I'd rather we fix the world's religions, and have a drink knowing we're celebrating the success at knowing mankind will survive.

Pretending facts won't happen is wishful thinking, and can lead us to disappointment.

In my opinion. :innocent:
20 years... lets meet up here on RF, it would be fun.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Forgive me for not reading the entire thread, but if archangels did indeed exist, I don't think one would spend their time trying to convince those on an internet forum that they were an archangel. I would think they would have more pressing matters to attend to.
If you did read the responses, we'd see why an archangel tests if mankind can be rational first.

The whole world has been led to follow a lie, and if we can't even deal with basics of fulfilment of prophecy, we can't correct their misunderstandings.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
If you did read the responses, we'd see why an archangel tests if mankind can be rational first.

The whole world has been led to follow a lie, and if we can't even deal with basics of fulfilment of prophecy, we can't correct their misunderstandings.

In my opinion. :innocent:

Sounds like archangels need better arguments...or evidence.
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
So... Is that a no?
It isn't something I attach my thought to, as it is only those who God chooses, and 95% have no chance.
If things are preordained, then it doesn't matter whether mankind is aware of the truth of Oneness or not.
The Source spoke to me at 15 when I had compassion wanting to save all the people, and it showed me how...

Yet if people will not listen properly on a religious forum, then how will we appeal to humanity?

If each religious group doesn't actually believe their prophecy, how can we unite people who don't accept it is real?

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Sounds like archangels need better arguments...or evidence.
The evidence is fine, the lack of study by others is the problem...

People are religious bigots by definition of being down here currently; so unless we find people who study all the religions as One, they will miss a large part of the data by their own stubbornness.

If we could get some people on here studying all the religions to see it clearly, we could then create world Peace between us, and it will spread as prophesied or we wait until after the Great Tribulation, to then educate the Enlightened Saints.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

SalixIncendium

अहं ब्रह्मास्मि
Staff member
Premium Member
The evidence is fine, the lack of study by others is the problem...

People are religious bigots by definition of being down here currently; so unless we find people who study all the religions as One, they will miss a large part of the data by their own stubbornness.

If we could get some people on here studying all the religions to see it clearly, we could then create world Peace between us, and it will spread as prophesied or we wait until after the Great Tribulation, to then educate the Enlightened Saints.

In my opinion. :innocent:

World peace? I didn't know convincing RF that you were an archangel would lead to world peace. Well, then...

By all means, carry on.
 
If you did read the responses, we'd see why an archangel tests if mankind can be rational first.
Is people not taking you at your word without evidence not sufficient proof that mankind can be rational?

The whole world has been led to follow a lie, and if we can't even deal with basics of fulfilment of prophecy, we can't correct their misunderstandings.
Let's cut to the chase. What is the lie you claim the entire world has been deceived by, and what is the truth? And why is that truth *the* truth?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
World peace? I didn't know convincing RF that you were an archangel would lead to world peace.
If Christ can be recognized as an avatar, and legitimized on here; then we can fix the Abrahamic divide, and correctly the theological errors globally.

In my opinion.
:innocent:
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
It isn't something I attach my thought to, as it is only those who God chooses, and 95% have no chance.
Letting go of earthly attachments? Impressive.
Have you tried reasoning with God, like Abraham and Moses did?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Is people not taking you at your word without evidence not sufficient proof that mankind can be rational?
Considering posted overwhelming evidence to begin, and you didn't add that into the equation, is exactly like saying people prove they're not rational.
What is the lie you claim the entire world has been deceived by, and what is the truth? And why is that truth *the* truth?
John, Paul, and Simon were made up by the Pharisees to contradict Yeshua in the Synoptic Gospels; the Quran is partially right where they've edited the book, to cover up that the Curse of Moses was placed (Zechariah 11, Deuteronomy 28).

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
Letting go of earthly attachments?
Partially, I got a new laptop, a new guitar, and would like a chance to write tunes; I'd rather we fix the religions, and I get to keep these toys.
Have you tried reasoning with God, like Abraham and Moses did?
God established the Snare to catch out the fakes, where most have failed at understanding it...

If we could get the world to recognize Jonah as who he says he is, then we might get somewhere, and then we can get them to educate themselves.

Imagine if the Jews accept me as Messiah, allowing us to then get the audience needed to fix the Christian errors in the Bible; justifying that Islam had a point, and that it has now been fixed.

This would fulfil both Islamic, and Judaic prophecy; Christians would need educating for being naive - thus the Lake of Fire would be the Word.

God doesn't need reasoning with, mankind does.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
Partially, I got a new laptop, a new guitar, and would like a chance to write tunes; I'd rather we fix the religions, and I get to keep these toys.
I meant that you've let go of your attachment to your mortal parents.
Imagine if the Jews accept me as Messiah
Hmmm. Trying to picture that. It might work. The Jewish messiah has a list of requirements, though. You willing to fulfill those?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
My earliest memories are of advanced prophecies, and remembering the Divine Council from Heaven; with knowledge that my name (Zanda) is in the world's religious texts.
There are numerous religions around the world waiting for someone to turn up before the End of Time, and yet I'm spending most of my time debating I exist; whilst feeling like killing myself, so I can go home - yet this isn't fair on any of us.
In the past religious ambassadors have often been over looked, with serious consequences, as the prophesied events came to pass, as mankind didn't listen...

Yet now when we have the internet - where we can literally talk on Clouds, with our Words transmitted as Lightening; where it literally could become a Fire online - of people learning advanced spiritual knowledge...

But if on a Religious Forum where we are literally discussing the Divine coming in text globally, that I literally fulfil, and yet none literally take it seriously - what is the point in even literally bothering discussing religion?

No wonder the world is becoming lazy brained, if the scholars of religion, who debate online in the 'Marketplace', can't notice someone prophesied in nearly all the major religions by name. :confused:

Thus can we debate my existence as an Archangel in many of the world's religious texts?

Could we be logical between us? :cool:

Because if we establish case A, we can move on to point B, & C of how to create world Peace between us online. :eartheurafr:

Please for the Love of God, try to not just troll, as the End of Time is Soon - if we do not fix the religious divide between us, and it is only everyone's loss in not understanding the reasons more clearly.

In my opinion. :innocent:

Satire?
 

wizanda

One Accepts All Religious Texts
Premium Member
I meant that you've let go of your attachment to your mortal parents.
My Auntie-Christine owns her own Christian book shop; my life is a lesson in letting go of attachment, humility, and serving the Source.
The Jewish messiah has a list of requirements, though. You willing to fulfill those?
The fulfilments they are expecting, and how they think they get fulfilled is different to what is recorded; thus it is possible to fulfil them in a way where everyone benefits.

In my opinion. :innocent:
 

Harel13

Am Yisrael Chai
Staff member
Premium Member
The fulfilments they are expecting, and how they think they get fulfilled is different to what is recorded; thus it is possible to fulfil them in a way where everyone benefits
In that case, since we are but ill-informed mortals, care to say whether or not the Jewish Oral Torah is true or false?
 

dybmh

ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Imagine if the Jews accept me as Messiah
Here's the thing...

A jewish messiah would never ask a Jew to violate a single one of the commandments. But without knowledge of those commandments, you're not the one I'm looking for to help me become more observant.

It would be the same for Jesus if he were here today. I'm looking for someone whose knowledge of Torah is like Solomon. Just so you know.
 

Eddi

Christianity
Premium Member
I have two questions for you, Wizanda:

1) I'm interested to know, are you claiming to be THE Messiah or A Messiah?

I'm an ex-Messiah claimant, I believed I was the latter (A Messiah) as I have zero Jewish ancestry yet considered myself to be special, a chosen one even, but not the prophesied Jewish Messiah. But I got the two mixed-up, my mind was quite messy back then. But none of that is me anymore, I'm over it, it was a stage...

2) Also, aren't "Messiah" and "Arch Angel" mutually exclusive??? Because Angels are a different species to humans, and the Messiah is a human???
 
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