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Why does anyone care about watching sports?

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
doppelgänger;2379619 said:
Well, but it does in a way. People transcend the boundaries of their self-identity as they merge into a group. Nationalism for example is a form of mystical experience.
I think we're working with different definitions of "supernatural".
 

doppelganger

Through the Looking Glass
I think we're working with different definitions of "supernatural".
I'm very careful to distinguish between what people experience and how they interpret their experience. "Supernatural" is an interpretation of an experience. When you ask probing questions about what the actual experience was behind these "supernatural" experiences, it's not what you might assume.
 

jmvizanko

Uber Tool
Nope. Emotions aren't stupid or useless or dangerous or even unjustified. What we DO with emotions can be stupid, useless, dangerous or unjustified.

You are honestly telling me that people have no ability to edit what emotions they feel? If I feel jealous or angry over an irrational fear that my spouse is cheating on me, that's not something that has to stick.

But that's sort of beside the point. The real point is that you can't relate to the emotions that other people feel about some spectator sports, and somehow feel an urge to lash out about it.

I don't think I'm lashing out about it. I'm offering my opinion, which on some level I can't really help, and asking a question. This is a debate forum. If you feel like you're being lashed out at, then go to another topic?

it just seems judgmental and small minded to make such sweeping generalizations (such as "People who are into sports are sort of dumb.) just because you can't relate to those reasons and emotions.

Except I'm not making a sweeping generalization. A generalization none the less, but that's because that's what I see.

You wouldn't be one of those people who feel superior when they're putting others down, would you? Hope not.

I generally don't put people down, although I suppose I certainly am here though. And I think that more intelligent would be the word I am going for here, although that obviously equates to superior on some level. And its not just me. Like I said, most of the highly intelligent people I have known are much less interested in sports than the average Joe.
 

jmvizanko

Uber Tool
I don't see the problem, even if someone is identifying with a group rather than focusing on their own individuality.

And once again, I don't see a problem with it either. I just think less intelligent people are more likely to have a higher interest in it.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I generally don't put people down, although I suppose I certainly am here though. And I think that more intelligent would be the word I am going for here, although that obviously equates to superior on some level. And its not just me. Like I said, most of the highly intelligent people I have known are much less interested in sports than the average Joe.
I think most highly intelligent people can appreciate the idea of setting up an environment where the distractions are stripped away and a person is simply confronted with a challenge and asked to meet it.

When it comes right down to it, that's all sports are: an opportunity to experience the feeling of finding your limits and pushing against them... or even exceeding what you thought your limits were. It doesn't really matter that it's done in a somewhat contrived and arbitrary setting, because no "real-world" setting would provide this opportunity in the same way: there's nothing else where both sides are given a truly equal chance (maybe not in terms of skill, but at least in terms of preparation and opportunity) and face each other directly to see who can succeed.

I don't know about you, but I don't come up against my limits very often in my everyday life. There isn't really anything I do where I'm faced with an opponent in a fair fight where we are both focused on succeeding over the other. OTOH, in sports, I have the ability to test myself and see just what I'm capable of. And watching people who devote their lives to sport, we can see what human beings are capable of in general... not so much in terms of how far a person can hit a ball, but in terms of how capable we can be at rising to a challenge.

I think there can be tremendous beauty in sports. Of course, I think there's more beauty in sports that involve cars going really, really fast :D ... but that's just a matter of preference.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
I don't know about you guys but I love watching ball sports (no homo) especially football as.I am.a.cowboy fan and basketball since I am a laker fan. To some, tossing balls back in forth or shooting a basketball in a hoop is boring but to me its much more. I like the team effort. Regardless of race or sexual orientation, you have two teams trying to beat each other. I love the roar of the crowd the excitement of last minute scoring.
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
I don't know about you guys but I love watching ball sports (no homo) especially football as.I am.a.cowboy fan and basketball since I am a laker fan. To some, tossing balls back in forth or shooting a basketball in a hoop is boring but to me its much more. I like the team effort. Regardless of race or sexual orientation, you have two teams trying to beat each other. I love the roar of the crowd the excitement of last minute scoring.
Great thing about being a sports fans is you get to ridicule other fans support of their teams...................The COWBOYS SUCK.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
LOL my husband and I are always having this feud! He's a Cowboys fan and I'm a Saints fan. When those two teams play each other, things get very interesting around our house!
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Great thing about being a sports fans is you get to ridicule other fans support of their teams...................The COWBOYS SUCK.

Here we go I wasn't even going to talk about the san francisco forty whiners but you had to go there...lol
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
Here we go I wasn't even going to talk about the san francisco forty whiners but you had to go there...lol
Least we have an excuse for not winning our division (crappy QB and lousy offense), but the Cowpokes had 3 good RB's, 3 very good WR's, probably the 2nd best TE in the league, and still couldn't muster better than 3rd at 6-10 (which was the same record we had playing in a losing division). Let's see how next year goes!!
 

Bismillah

Submit
The moment one clearly understands the mechanics of any sport and especially so called "ball sports" they will be awed by the sheer talent, dexterity, and magnitude of power. It is fascinating to watch two opposing factions, each at peak physical condition, to battle using various tactics and maneuvers. It is an ingrained sense of competition and rivalry that all of us posses and many of us apply to sports.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Least we have an excuse for not winning our division (crappy QB and lousy offense), but the Cowpokes had 3 good RB's, 3 very good WR's, probably the 2nd best TE in the league, and still couldn't muster better than 3rd at 6-10 (which was the same record we had playing in a losing division). Let's see how next year goes!!

Our quarter backs were hurt both of them! Not to mention our secondary defense is crappy. Wade phillips was doing a lousy job overall with the team why do you think Jason Garrett took over? By the way we still whooped on the miners last season
 

ninerbuff

godless wonder
Our quarter backs were hurt both of them! Not to mention our secondary defense is crappy. Wade phillips was doing a lousy job overall with the team why do you think Jason Garrett took over? By the way we still whooped on the miners last season
Expected. Can't win if your team only scores 15pts. per game and your defense is on the field 70% of the time. But we didn't play each other last season. ;)
I do have hope with Harbaugh as the coach and returning to our roots with the West Coast offense.
 

Vendetta

"Oscar the grouch"
Expected. Can't win if your team only scores 15pts. per game and your defense is on the field 70% of the time. But we didn't play each other last season. ;)
I do have hope with Harbaugh as the coach and returning to our roots with the West Coast offense.

I thought we did....man age is catchin up to me! Well the Cowboy and 49er rivalries is not like used to be....I think it died out when jj stokes rice and lastly steve young, and montana left.....not to mention all the cocaine rape troubles afflicting dallas lol
 
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ninerbuff

godless wonder
I thought we did....man age is catchin up to me! Well the Cowboy and 49er rivalries is not like used to be....I think it died out when jj stokes rice and lastly steve young, and montana left.....not to mention all the cocaine rape troubles afflicting dallas lol
Yeah, it was a rivalry that I liked alot. Especially when members from both teams switched from Cowpokes to 9ers and vice versa (Ken Norton to 9ers and Deion Sanders to Cowpokes).
Though I despise the Cowpokes, I have much respect for Troy Aikman and Emmett Smith.
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Yeah I agree...

Oh non sequitor time Ms kathryn you have a nice looking family btw


Thank you very much! I am very proud of them - even the ones who DON'T like sports!

(How's that for a nice re-route?) :)
 
I enjoy watching football because I find it entertaining. Not all games are obviously enjoyable, but if you look at different aspects within the game such as individual battles then you will find the missing enjoyable components!
When I was fit I enjoyed running marathons, playing football and other sports, on occasion it became an obsession; such as my marathon running/training. My personal relationships suffered!
I cannot participate physically and so derive enjoyment from watching football, rugby and cricket. I don't let the results affect me, which I did when I was in my teens! Its sport, not life and death! Although some people are religious in their support of their teams! I used to be! Even got sent from class on occasion for telling the religious teacher that Bill Shankly was g_d!
Each to their own!!!

Namaste,

Lenny
only drools when he sees good chocolate!
 
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