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Why does Donald Trump hold such power over the Republican Party?

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
But perhaps not all to the same degree. I have not vetted the link, but there at least appears to be something to it.


That is a ridiculous article with a ridiculous conclusion based on a flawed metric. Just because one side got caught more than the other doesn't tell us which side is more corrupt --- it only tells us which side got punished for their corruption.

Further - it doesn't help us assess which side is more corrupt today - as the degree of corruption changes over time. That all said .. both sides of the fence are mostly corrupt .. so much so that quibbling over the difference is silly - like debating who was more of a dictator ... Stalin Hitler or Mao.

I have what I think is a better measure of corruption than the one put forward .. Some years ago some in congress noticed we were arming, supplying and supporting Al Qaeda. Given the words of Bush "We are going after not only the Terrorists but their Supporters" - made the fact that part of our Gov't was arming and supporting Al Qaeda - and ISIS a problem. Two of the folks that noticed this problem put forward a Bill to Congress -- with the appropriate name "The Stop Arming Terrorist Act"

Now .. one would think that such a bill would get unanimous support .. after all .. who thinks it is a good thing to arm and support enemy #1 - the 911 Terrorists .. Al Qeada ?? This has to be the no brainer of all time for each in congress .. I mean who is going to come back at them later and criticize this person for not arming Al Qaeda .. right !?

Well -- the Bill was introduced to the house with 13 bipartisan co-sponsors -- out of 435. When Rand Paul introduced the Bill into the Senate .. he did so with ZERO (0) co-sponsors .. Zero out of 100 .. wanted to stop arming terrorist group Al Qaeda / ISIS -- well 1 if you include Rand.

Every sitting member in the Senate .. except for 1 = 99 out of 100, are corrupt as can be.



This Bill was introduced into the House with 13 bipartisan cosponsors -- out of 435.
 

Sargonski

Well-Known Member
You fail to understand my view. I don't claim that
it's The Truth. Just a method of steering the ship
of state in the best direction.

The only candidates who can win the US presidency
will be either Democrat or Republican. No 3rd party
candidate has yet had a real chance at winning.
So if you vote 3rd party, you're letting other voters
decide which Dem or Pub will govern us.

I only vote 3rd party when I can't influence which
Dem or Pub wins. But when an election is close,
& one of the Big Two is a greater evil than the other,
I'll vote for the lesser evil. Because that's better than
letting the greater evil win.
Your view is false logic - -- first is the assumption that one is the greater evil than the other ... they are both evil to the same degree when it comes to certain things .. and one is not significantly better than the other in any respect to make voting for the clowns on either side in your best interest overall. Thus -- a vote for Red or Blue is a vote for the Status Quo .. a vote for continued oppression.

"Steering the ship in the best direction" --- if the ship is heading towards a waterfall -- and there are 3 choices -- Go right - Go Left - Go in reverse .. Choosing right or left is not the better direction .. as both will end up over the cliff .. even though you realize that "Go in Reverse" is highly unlikely to get the vote -- it is still the best choice .. the only choice with any hope of survival.

Its like saying "I will vote for Hitler because he is slightly better than Stalin" .. No friend .. they are both really bad . well beyond any good that one is going to do over the other. Further .. just because the 3rd party did not do very well in the past .. does not mean it can not do well in the future.

In general - neither party is better than the other and they only differ on "Hot button Issues" -- on issues relating to your economic subjugation and serfdom Red and Blue are in lock step .. trampling over liberty to increase Gov't power .. in lock step.

Choosing option 3 is better than choosing Goblin 1 or Goblin 2
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The man is clearly Senile, one half of the world pity him the other half see him to be a joke and are laughing at the USA as a result.
What is bizarre is that you would defend his term despite the fact he cannot finish a sentence.
The USA as never been in worse shape and the rest of the world does not listen to Biden.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about, so I'm just wasting my time with you.

BTW, I didn't want Biden for 2020, but the other choice was and is far worse. Too bad you can't see that.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Maybe use Google or Wikipedia, and then maybe regularly read and watch the news.
So you aren't even able to name a difference. I guess it makes sense when your sources are the biased news or the joke Wikipedia.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
I was not referring to transparency in terms of finances, I was talking about the cover up of Bidens mental state.
He is totally incapable of doing the job and if it was not kept from people he would not be President.
Now that's a truly odd statement, since the man is quite clearly doing the job each and every day. And I should think you'd understand that the job of POTUS is hugely bigger than almost any other job you can think of. It's 7 days a week, too many hours every day, listening to briefings, reading too many documents, making more decisions in an hour than most of us do in a week. Not bad for a man his age -- and at 75 (and still working) trust me, I mean that.

What are you doing that comes even close to the amount of stress and mental effort Biden undergoes daily??
 

Bthoth

Well-Known Member
No, he's definitely a populist, and a crook.
Trump is perhaps the greatest example of an exceptinalist believing himself to be superior to others.

His whole arrogant disposition is based on believing himself to be better than others.

If he is playing the part of a populist, then it's strictly acting. He could care less about others unless he can take a gain for himself.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
See this is where I differe from the rest of you it seems. I have no desire to support evil of any caliber.
But if, through an action of yours, you can make a lesser evil happen instead of a greater one, then you have -- by inaction -- supported the greater. That is just part of being an actor in an imperfect world.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
But if, through an action of yours, you can make a lesser evil happen instead of a greater one, then you have -- by inaction -- supported the greater. That is just part of being an actor in an imperfect world.
Nope, by not supporting evil I don't support evil, don't listen to the weird "not being evil is evil" propaganda.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Nope, by not supporting evil I don't support evil, don't listen to the weird "not being evil is evil" propaganda.
Then you are not part of the world, of your community. As Eldridge Cleaver said: "There is no more neutrality in the world. You either have to be part of the solution, or you're going to be part of the problem." Or perhaps you'd prefer Jesus, in Mark 9:40 " for whoever is not against us is for us."
 

Maninthemiddle

Active Member
Now that's a truly odd statement, since the man is quite clearly doing the job each and every day. And I should think you'd understand that the job of POTUS is hugely bigger than almost any other job you can think of. It's 7 days a week, too many hours every day, listening to briefings, reading too many documents, making more decisions in an hour than most of us do in a week. Not bad for a man his age -- and at 75 (and still working) trust me, I mean that.

What are you doing that comes even close to the amount of stress and mental effort Biden undergoes daily??
You say he is clearly doing the job, obviously the man can do no wrong in your eyes.
He Is the laughing stock of the world outside of the USA.
 

Maninthemiddle

Active Member
You clearly don't know what you're talking about, so I'm just wasting my time with you.

BTW, I didn't want Biden for 2020, but the other choice was and is far worse. Too bad you can't see that.
The other choice is not just Trump, you say I can't see.
The other choice is a different Democratic leader, one that can walk 50 steps without falling, can finish a sentence, and is not so fond of Children.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Well, I guess I'm messed up as I taught a poli sci course dealing Constitutional law for only 25 years. Bye.
Good lord you taught poli science and your standard of reference was CNN/FOX and Wikipedia? No wonder we are doomed.
 

1137

Here until I storm off again
Premium Member
Then you are not part of the world, of your community. As Eldridge Cleaver said: "There is no more neutrality in the world. You either have to be part of the solution, or you're going to be part of the problem." Or perhaps you'd prefer Jesus, in Mark 9:40 " for whoever is not against us is for us."
Yes common propagandistic dehumanization. It plagues both parties now.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
This is a repetition of the claim not an explanation.
Then I highly recommend paying attention to the world around you.

The republican party has a long history of opposing freedom, rights, and equality for LGBT people. They have a long history of opposing reproductive freedom; not just abortion but contraceptives as well. They've tried to ban books and art performances and exhibits. They oppose cannabis legalization. They constantly try to sidestep the establishment clause of the first amendment by using government funds/land to favor and promote a specific religion and by trying to get compulsory prayer and bible study into schools. They're anti-science and staunchly deny evolution, climate change, vaccinations, spherical earth, etc.
 
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