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Why does God care about Homosexuality?

.lava

Veteran Member
i still think the same. because it is twisted.
women are created to attract men.
why would a man go to another man?
women are certainly more esthetic and more attractive than men.
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
women are created to attract men.

I'm sure it wasn't intentional but this sounds very sexist. Like your saying that women are nothing more than pretty stones to be looked at or something. I'm sure that wasn't your intent but that's just how it sounds at least to me anyway.

women are certainly more esthetic and more attractive than men.

So you would have no problem with lesbian couples?:D
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
Just a thought: for all we know homosexuality could be Gods attempt at population control. Or getting more people to adopt. Seems to me that that's just as likely as him damning them to hell or what not. Well it's possible anyway isn't it?:shrug:
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Just a thought: for all we know homosexuality could be Gods attempt at population control. Or getting more people to adopt. Seems to me that that's just as likely as him damning them to hell or what not. Well it's possible anyway isn't it?:shrug:

Let's suppose a Creator God exists -- or, at the least, existed long enough to create the universe. Assuming that, why would such a god create homosexuals if that god were opposed to homosexuality?
 

.lava

Veteran Member
I'm sure it wasn't intentional but this sounds very sexist. Like your saying that women are nothing more than pretty stones to be looked at or something. I'm sure that wasn't your intent but that's just how it sounds at least to me anyway.
So you would have no problem with lesbian couples?:D

i didnot mean it, sorry. i am not sexist. i tried to say women has attractive bodies naturally. Allah created them more attractive than men. they are kinda more beautiful, aren't they?

i don't have problem with any of them. in Islam homosexual men and women don't have the same respond. civilizations were doomed because men choosed men over women. not the other way around.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
The Greek civilization was one of the lights of the ancient world and yet it condoned homosexuality. The Roman civilization lasted for a 1000 years and yet it condoned homosexuality. The Chinese civilization was another light of the ancient world, and yet it condoned homosexuality.

BTW, I agree with Lava that women are more attractive than men -- but that's only because I, like Lava, am a heterosexual male. A heterosexual female or a homosexual male might have a different opinion.
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
Let's suppose a Creator God exists -- or, at the least, existed long enough to create the universe. Assuming that, why would such a god create homosexuals if that god were opposed to homosexuality?

Well since homosexuality isn't a choice that's something you should be asking yourself not me as I'm not the one who said God is opposed to homosexuality. I never made the claim in my post. My post was simply giving a possible reason for why God created Homosexuality not about why God would be against it. There's no way to know for sure if God is for it, against it, or doesn't care at all about it.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Well since homosexuality isn't a choice that's something you should be asking yourself not me as I'm not the one who said God is opposed to homosexuality. I never made the claim in my post. My post was simply giving a possible reason for why God created Homosexuality not about why God would be against it. There's no way to know for sure if God is for it, against it, or doesn't care at all about it.

I agree with you.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Why does God care if two guys or two girls have sex with each other?

Homosexuality is prohibited in the Bible because the ancient patriarchal/agrarian societies that produced it depended on heterosexual marriage for the integrity of the state (producing warriors) and economy (legitimate children to inherit property).

Now our democratic free-market capitalist society, in a culture that highly prizes individualism, we can pretty much get along fine with any family structure.
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
The Greek civilization was one of the lights of the ancient world and yet it condoned homosexuality. The Roman civilization lasted for a 1000 years and yet it condoned homosexuality. The Chinese civilization was another light of the ancient world, and yet it condoned homosexuality.

Oh yes and there doom MUST have come about because they condoned homosexuality. There couldn't POSSIBLY be any other reason. And the claim that they fell because they were conquered by neighboring civilizations is just absurd. *sarcasm*:D

I'm sure if I took the time to research it I could find plenty of major civilizations that were opposed to homosexuality and still fell. or civilizations that condoned it and are still around today. the idea that allowing men to sleep together would bring down a whole civilization is (in my opinion) a bit absurd. Especially when there are far more likely factors one should take into account like say corruption of government, rebellion, plague, starvation, invasion, the list goes on.
 

Darkness

Psychoanalyst/Marxist
lava said:
i tried to say women has attractive bodies naturally. Allah created them more attractive than men. they are kinda more beautiful, aren't they?

I am sure heterosexual girls think men have more attractive bodies.

lava said:
women are created to attract men.
why would a man go to another man?

Homosexual men do not feel attracted to women. So whether or not God created them to be, is irrelevant.

lava said:
women are certainly more esthetic and more attractive than men.

Which is your subjective opinion. The Greeks thought the male body was the epitome of beauty and perfection.
 

MoonWater

Warrior Bard
Premium Member
I agree with Darkness. And You also failed to take into account, lava, that there are those who don't care one wit about looks and don't have their love and/or attraction to another person based on physical appearance. I'm one of those people. Personally I agree with you in thinking that the female form is more asthetically pleasing than the male form. But that does not in any way lessen or interfere with my love and attraction towards my boyfriend. I'll even admit that I've seen men who far cuter, sexier, handsomer, etc. than he is but that has absolutely no impact on how I feel about him. So the idea that men should be with women because women are more attractive(which is debatable) just doesn't follow. It's like saying wood should not be brown because green is a more beautiful color(which is also debatable). It has no bearing on whether or not wood is brown and doesn't change the fact that it is. Besides if you take a look at a slug or a snail or a leech then you'll realize that God(who created those as well right) really doesn't care about appearance.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
The Greek civilization was one of the lights of the ancient world and yet it condoned homosexuality. The Roman civilization lasted for a 1000 years and yet it condoned homosexuality. The Chinese civilization was another light of the ancient world, and yet it condoned homosexuality.

BTW, I agree with Lava that women are more attractive than men -- but that's only because I, like Lava, am a heterosexual male. A heterosexual female or a homosexual male might have a different opinion.

in fact, the darkest civilizations are todays'. there is even child-porn! we arenot doomed for a reason.

here is an example from Qur'an:


(Al-Araf)
[79] So Salih left them, saying: "O my people! I did indeed convey to you the message for which I was sent by my Lord: I gave you good counsel, but ye love not good counsellors!"

[80] We also (sent) Lut: he said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you?

[81] "For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."

[82] And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure!"

so tell me, i mean all

why a man choses a man who acts like woman? i find it silly. if he liked that femenine attitude why not having a real one?

and where is the red line? i mean, what would you call 'twisted'?

men and women physical fit perfect. if one ignores that then he could see anyone or anything he likes as a sexual partner. might be a little boy or an animal. once you cross the line you just go any point you like. if gvernments didnot make any laws about it, i can't imagine how it would be like. so why not follow laws of God?
 

.lava

Veteran Member
I agree with Darkness. And You also failed to take into account, lava, that there are those who don't care one wit about looks and don't have their love and/or attraction to another person based on physical appearance. I'm one of those people. Personally I agree with you in thinking that the female form is more asthetically pleasing than the male form. But that does not in any way lessen or interfere with my love and attraction towards my boyfriend. I'll even admit that I've seen men who far cuter, sexier, handsomer, etc. than he is but that has absolutely no impact on how I feel about him. So the idea that men should be with women because women are more attractive(which is debatable) just doesn't follow. It's like saying wood should not be brown because green is a more beautiful color(which is also debatable). It has no bearing on whether or not wood is brown and doesn't change the fact that it is. Besides if you take a look at a slug or a snail or a leech then you'll realize that God(who created those as well right) really doesn't care about appearance.

that's personal. i speak in general. as you may remember i believe homosexual relationships are against physical forms. i mean, for men specially. that is my point.
of course, physical appeariance isnot that important. i agree with that.
 

.lava

Veteran Member
I am sure heterosexual girls think men have more attractive bodies.

Homosexual men do not feel attracted to women. So whether or not God created them to be, is irrelevant.

Which is your subjective opinion. The Greeks thought the male body was the epitome of beauty and perfection.

it is very normal if a girl attracts a boy and a boy attracts a girl.
if a man was not attract to women, then there is something wrong about him.
Greeks found beauty in power therefor they thought male body was the epitome of perfection. remember muscles of those statues?


ps: just for the record, i never said i am attracted to women. i amnot attracted to anyone. i just think female body is more aesthetic. if i was supposed to draw a picture of a human, i would prefer female body. that's all.
 
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