Why does God care about Homosexuality?

[Reverend Rick]

Gee. That's a tough one. Could it be because the animal cannot give informed consent?

I can't scratch a women's belly without consent either, but no one has a problem with getting a dogs consent for that.

 

[McBell]

I'm ready to play the Devil's advocate here. Mike, why should bestiality be illegal?

One: because animals cannot enter into a legal contract.
Two: Because an animal cannot give legal consent.

This would also apply to any and every other group that cannot give legal consent and/or enter into a legal contract.

Seems pretty simple to me.

I can't scratch a women's belly without consent either, but no one has a problem with getting a dogs consent for that.

Please see above.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Animals may not be able to give verbal or written consent, but animals can and do communicate what they like and dislike.

You have addressed the legal issues here. Are you saying the letter of the law should be followed each and ever time a person has sex?

 

[Sunstone]

How did this discussion of why God appears to care about homosexuality turn into a discussion of bestiality? Is there some link between homosexuality and bestiality that someone wants to point out to me?

 

[McBell]

Animals may not be able to give verbal or written consent, but animals can and do communicate what they like and dislike.

And what does this have to do with anything?
Nothing.
Being able to express pleasure and/or displeasure is irrelevant.

You have addressed the legal issues here. Are you saying the letter of the law should be followed each and ever time a person has sex?

You mean to say that you think it isn't?

 

[Super Universe]

God is not against homosexuality. If He truly was against it, it wouldn't exist.

Ancient holymen and priests didn't know what caused natural events so they thought God was angry with them. Most of the time the priests did a dance or sacrificed some animals in an effort to appease God. But, when a fireball from heaven (nowdays known as a meteor) happened to hit Soddom the ancient priest there used it against those people he also did not understand.

 

[Reverend Rick]

How did this discussion of why God appears to care about homosexuality turn into a discussion of bestiality? Is there some link between homosexuality and bestiality that someone wants to point out to me?

Mike opened that door with post #34. Remember, I am playing Devil's advocate only to put Mike in a position of passing judgement on beastiality.

I am still awaiting an answer to my question whether a person should be in compliance with the law each and every time they have sex.

 

[Reverend Rick]

The non answer would indicate that I was going to be able to have a valid argument.

 

[MoonWater]

The non answer would indicate that I was going to be able to have a valid argument.

Or indicates that the person simply isn't on the computer right now to reply. But your argument has no place here as it has nothing to do with the OP. An argument can't be valid if it has nothing to do with the debate at hand. If you wish to discuss bestiality then create a new thread.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Or indicates that the person simply isn't on the computer right now to reply. But your argument has no place here as it has nothing to do with the OP. An argument can't be valid if it has nothing to do with the debate at hand. If you wish to discuss bestiality then create a new thread.

Who brought up Beastiality? I only replied to the comment Mike made.

 

[MoonWater]

Who brought up Beastiality? I only replied to the comment Mike made.

Lava originally mentioned it but it would seem as though your the one who actually started the debate. Though I fail to see the connection one could make between homosexuality and bestiality so your "devil's advocate" argument does not follow. What does thinking bestiality should be legal or illegal have to do with homosexuality?

 

[McBell]

I am still awaiting an answer to my question whether a person should be in compliance with the law each and every time they have sex.

You were given an answer.
What, you did not like it?


Are you not proposing that we follow the letter of your God's law?
Fact is that we do follow the letter the law every time we have sex.
Those who do not and are caught are disciplined.
Seems to me that you merely disagree with the letters of the law that are being followed.

The non answer would indicate that I was going to be able to have a valid argument.

If it works out that easy for you, then by all means jump on it and run, Forest run!
Personally, I would rather not take the easy way out.
After all, lack of proof is not proof.
However, in this case, it isn't lack of proof, it is turning a blind eye to what is presented and then claiming victory.

 

[MoonWater]

You were given an answer.
What, you did not like it?


Are you not proposing that we follow the letter of your God's law?
Fact is that we do follow the letter the law every time we have sex.
Those who do not and are caught are disciplined.
Seems to me that you merely disagree with the letters of the law that are being followed.

Exactly, just because we don't conciously go through each law and make sure each one is being followed before we have sex deosn't mean that we aren't following the letter of the law.

 

[Reverend Rick]

What does thinking bestiality should be legal or illegal have to do with homosexuality?

Ask Mike, he brought it up, attempted to debate the issue and left when the questions got too tough for him.

 

[Reverend Rick]

You were given an answer.
What, you did not like it?

Actually, I asked Mike the question. That was the answer I was looking for. If you want to debate this issue any further with me, feel free to start a thread. I will not run away or whine OK?

 

[MoonWater]

Ask Mike, he brought it up, attempted to debate the issue and left when the questions got too tough for him.

Actually lava originally brought it up and mike was meerly responding to lava's comment. You would see the if you bothered to read the other posts in this thread. And don't you think it might be possible that maybe he left because, oh I don't know, he had work, or wanted some breakfast or maybe his computer crashed... to simply assume that he left because the questions were "too tough for him" is quite arrogant.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Arrogant? I have been called worse. The replies were going back and forth at a brisk pace and then stopped. If I had to leave, I might have said something, and I believe Mike would have as well. He was always my favorite Moderator and has always been nice to me.

 

[McBell]

Actually, I asked Mike the question. That was the answer I was looking for. If you want to debate this issue any further with me, feel free to start a thread. I will not run away or whine OK?

Seems to me that there is a forum for one on one debates.
Seems to me that this is not it.

however, to take your position, if the points I brought up are to hard for you....Post #54

 

[Darkness]

what i am saying is this: man and woman are meant for each other. i believe this is a physical fact. they perfectly fit. yes, it might be painful for the first time for a girl because she's probably stressed, she'd be tense cos she is virgin.
to me, physical fact is like a border line. it is a limit.

God! :banghead3
If gays and lesbians do not care if the physiology is the same, why should you?

if you or anyone was born to this world from two men, then i would accept it as my personal idea. but no, each of us has a mother and a father. we came out of two opposite sexes. there is no exception, so i call it normal.

You assume that sexual relationships are about procreation.

gay relationships cause physical damage. body gives reaction to this abnormal act and loses its natural function. doesnot matter male or female, for both having anal sex is abnormal.

This is an argument against anal sex, not homosexuality. So, you must believe that straight married couples having anal sex is immoral. Now, what if a gay couple does not have anal sex. Is that all right with you?

 

[Reverend Rick]

God! :banghead3
If gays and lesbians do not care if the physiology is the same, why should you?



You assume that sexual relationships are about procreation.



This is an argument against anal sex, not homosexuality. So, you must believe that straight married couples having anal sex is immoral. Now, what if a gay couple does not have anal sex. Is that all right with you?

I can't speak for Lava, but you have came to a logical conclusion based on his facts.