why does God exist?

[idea]

Big bang or not, nothing existed for me before my mind did. I see no problem with eternal existence either.

existed for me
Yes, we control what exists in our own little world don't we... It would go against our free agency to force the existence of anything upon us. Better to allow us the choice of what to believe in... God gives us the choice to believe in Him or not. (Heisenberg uncertainty principle – observer effect, etc...) Of course, once we have made the choice to believe of our own free will, He does reveal Himself to us - for as long as we don't mind His presence.

Glad you do not have a problem with eternal existence. Do you find you have free will as well? That is a choice too - we can choose to be masters of ourself or not.

PS - I believe in the Abrahamic God of the OT, NT, Pearl of Great Price, Doctrine and Covenants, book of Mormon, etc...

 

[Random]

Why does existence exist?

Why not?

 

[idea]

Why does existence exist?

either there is - always has been, always will be, absolutely nothing... or there is something. 50-50 chance I suppose... look around, there is something. It did not come from anywhere, it just is, always has been, and always will be... changing form a bit - but eternal and unable to blink in and out of existence.

 

[lew0049]

for those who believe God does exist,
Why does God exist?

peace

Why do you exist?

 

[lew0049]

Actually, the latest multiverse theories say that matter and energy have always existed, which means life could have existed or exists in other universes. Of course, the implication here is that no creator god, or any god is needed in an infinite multiverse. Maybe some people WANT one.

And maybe the researchers proposing these hypotheses don't want there to be a creator.

 

[Willamena]

I think its a pertinent question, so I'll keep asking it - that is, until thread starters stop assuming that Abrahamic God = only concept of God and frame their questions to either a particular group or specify generality.

If by "Abrahamic God" you mean the mythic image portrayed in the Bible, I think very few on this thread are making that assumption. If, on the other hand, you mean the God portrayed by Abraham in mythic image, then I agree that that is what we are talking about, that nameless/formless "void" ...and your question becomes impertinent again.

 

[logician]

Depends on how you define God. I do not think God created us, but I think there is a variety of life forms, and see some as being more advanced than others... I think He will form and organize us into something better than we now are if we allow Him to - He will not go against our free agency and turn us into a machine though... To take away our free agency would be to take away our very life. Machines are not alive.

I think life is the ultimate glory of the universe - your work is a dead end project if it is centered on something that does not grow and change... Love, humility, selflessness - allows us to look beyond ourself to see the glory of life. I think that is the goal of God - to teach us the glorious nature of life - a hard thing to do without taking away our free agency.

19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and thieves break through and steal;
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal.
21 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

life is the treasure in heaven...

I don't an external agency to teach me about glorious nature of life - that can be experienced.

 

[Halcyon]

If by "Abrahamic God" you mean the mythic image portrayed in the Bible, I think very few on this thread are making that assumption.

Most people on this thread are talking about a creator god, whereas the vast majority of gods throughout history were not creator gods.

 

[logician]

Most people on this thread are talking about a creator god, whereas the vast majority of gods throughout history were not creator gods.

I thought the Christian god was kind of a "jack of all trades".

 

[Rolling_Stone]

Why not?

My point, exactly. But then, I think you know that.

Big bang or not, nothing existed for me before my mind did. I see no problem with eternal existence either.

Reminds me of something I heard on TV's "Gunsmoke": "The world began when I was born."

either there is - always has been, always will be, absolutely nothing... or there is something. 50-50 chance I suppose... look around, there is something. It did not come from anywhere, it just is, always has been, and always will be... changing form a bit - but eternal and unable to blink in and out of existence.

That fact that something exists makes it self-evident that something exists necessarily; something exists that cannot not exist.

 

[Willamena]

Most people on this thread are talking about a creator god, whereas the vast majority of gods throughout history were not creator gods.

In what sense were they not creator gods? For instance Mars, God of War. What was his role if not as symbolic of our participatory part in war?

 

[Willamena]

I thought the Christian god was kind of a "jack of all trades".

I would say he was jack of a very specific trade... 'me' for the world.

 

[Halcyon]

In what sense were they not creator gods? For instance Mars, God of War. What was his role if not as symbolic of our participatory part in war?

Creator as in creator of everything, which most people automatically associate with "God", but in most mythologies it's a title which very few gods can claim sole dominion over, except YHWH.

I thought the Christian god was kind of a "jack of all trades".

That's what he's become, but if we were to talk about Aphrodite - she didn't create the world, she herself was created, her sphere of influence was love, she didn't concern herself with war, childbirth or death. So, she'd have a completely different reason for existing than Zeus or YHWH or Amaterasu. Which is all I'm trying to get across, the question is so vague that it can apply to any God, therefore it's ultimately meaningless. Specify a God and get an answer to the question you're actually asking.

 

[Fish-Hunter]

for those who believe God does exist,
Why does God exist?

peace

God exist because He is...

Or His answer could be..."I Am".

 

[idea]

I don't an external agency to teach me about glorious nature of life - that can be experienced.

Life is meant to be experienced with Others. If you believe life is glorious, you would be excited to find any and all other Beings.

 

[idea]

My point, exactly. But then, I think you know that.

Reminds me of something I heard on TV's "Gunsmoke": "The world began when I was born."

That fact that something exists makes it self-evident that something exists necessarily; something exists that cannot not exist.

The nature of what exists is perhaps what is under question. I do not think any of us fully realize all that we are surrounded by.

 

[Rolling_Stone]

The nature of what exists is perhaps what is under question. I do not think any of us fully realize all that we are surrounded by.

But of course!

 

[Don Penguinoini]

For what?

For everything unexplained in our life, for hope that things an be right.

 

[Random]

Most people on this thread are talking about a creator god, whereas the vast majority of gods throughout history were not creator gods.

This is an excellent point. :yes:

 

[Willamena]

Which is all I'm trying to get across, the question is so vague that it can apply to any God, therefore it's ultimately meaningless. Specify a God and get an answer to the question you're actually asking.

The only thing I can think to respond to this is is to ask you, what does 'God' mean to you?