why does God exist?

[BucephalusBB]

For everything unexplained in our life, for hope that things an be right.

Purelly hope. So it actually doesn't really matter if he really is there.

 

[Rolling_Stone]

Most people on this thread are talking about a creator god, whereas the vast majority of gods throughout history were not creator gods.

True, but I that's that's because people tend not to differentiate between source and cause.

 

[Random]

True, but I that's that's because people tend not to differentiate between source and cause.

That's intersting. Does a Source of All things not mean being the Cause of All things, in terms of existence/emanation?

 

[Rolling_Stone]

That's intersting. Does a Source of All things not mean being the Cause of All things, in terms of existence/emanation?

I probably phrased that wrong. I should have mentioned the difference between primary and secondary causes and sources.

This is difficult to explain and even more difficult to wrap one’s mind around, but I’ll try to explain.

Infinity implies unity but it does not exclude diversity, even a diversity of multiple absolutes within the Undivided Whole. For example, if God is, is infinite, eternal, and is unchangeable, it follows that at least two internal relationships within the Undivided Whole have always been: unconscious matter-energy and purposive energy or “spirit.” These phases of the One may be construed as Absolute in their own domains but not independent of the totality their coordinate whole. Matter would be the source of human existence and spirit the cause of human existence.
Totality would be manifested in at least three existential and coordinate Absolutes or phases of being:

1. The Unconditioned I AM.
2. Unqualified matter-energy potential— the source of material existence.
3. The self-qualified I AM, I AM divested of static-reactive realities— the cause of forms.

The I AM is indeed the primary cause and source of all things, but human beings emerge from a distinct secondary source (matter) and hopefully integrate elements of a distinct secondary cause (spirit).

I know this may sound confused, but you’ll just have to trust that it’s all very clear in my head. (I’m sure you know what I mean.)

 

[Neo-Logic]

for those who believe God does exist,
Why does God exist?

peace

Guess I'm not invited to this party. :sad4:

 

[spiritually inclined]

Guess I'm not invited to this party.

Me, either. But I like to read the different answers, especially when they are more substantial than "because he does" or "he doesn't"....

James

 

[Rolling_Stone]

Guess I'm not invited to this party. :sad4:

Of course not. This is, after all, a religious forum (or at least advertised as such) notwithstanding that it is dominated by self-professed non-religious people.

 

[BucephalusBB]

Of course not. This is, after all, a religious forum (or at least advertised as such) notwithstanding that it is dominated by self-professed non-religious people.

I don't know, are those dominated self-professed non-religious people talking about religion? in this religious forum?
And is it religious forums or religionsforum?

And ow common, without all those atheists here you would have less fun yourself

 

[Neo-Logic]

Of course not. This is, after all, a religious forum (or at least advertised as such) notwithstanding that it is dominated by self-professed non-religious people.

A forum is a place for open discussion. If what you seek is repeated confirmation to your own unattested logic of the truth, what you want my good sir, is a club. Like the gun club, the sex clubs, the pornography clubs - where everyone get together and agree on agreeing things.

In a forum, people exchange ideas. And often, ideas conflict. If you don't want that, maybe you should try talking to a mirror.

 

[Rolling_Stone]

I don't know, are those dominated self-professed non-religious people talking about religion? in this religious forum?
And is it religious forums or religionsforum?

And ow common, without all those atheists here you would have less fun yourself

True on both counts. Frubals. Inconsistency of thought like below is amusing.

A forum is a place for open discussion. If what you seek is repeated confirmation to your own unattested logic of the truth, what you want my good sir, is a club. Like the gun club, the sex clubs, the pornography clubs - where everyone get together and agree on agreeing things.

In a forum, people exchange ideas. And often, ideas conflict. If you don't want that, maybe you should try talking to a mirror.

 

[Magic Man]

True on both counts. Frubals. Inconsistency of thought like below is amusing.

How is that inconsistent?

 

[Rolling_Stone]

How is that inconsistent?

This is "A" (an open religious forum). If you want "A," go to a forum that's not "A."

That's why BB was right in saying atheists make it fun for me. They are often amusing.

 

[Magic Man]

This is "A" (a religious forum). If you want "A," go to a forum that's not "A."

Or this is "A" (a religious forum for people to discuss all different opinions on all aspects of religion). If you want "B" (everyone supporting and agreeing with your opinion of religion), then go to a forum that's not "A". :yes:

 

[Rolling_Stone]

Or this is "A" (a religious forum for people to discuss all different opinions on all aspects of religion). If you want "B" (everyone supporting and agreeing with your opinion of religion), then go to a forum that's not "A". :yes:

For a religious person, the question isn't whether God exists, but the ultimate nature thereof. And since religion is a private affair, a self-professed non-religious person has nothing to say and no business setting the agenda in a religious forum.

 

[Magic Man]

For a religious person, the question isn't whether God exists, but the ultimate nature thereof. And since religion is a private affair, a self-professed non-religious person has nothing to say and no business setting the agenda in a religious forum.

That's great. At what point did a non-religious person try to set the agenda in a religious forum?

 

[Rolling_Stone]

That's great. At what point did a non-religious person try to set the agenda in a religious forum?

You were right, Bouncing Ball. They do make it fun. I haven't laughed so hard in ages.

 

[Magic Man]

You were right, Bouncing Ball. They do make it fun. I haven't laughed so hard in ages.

All right! There ya go! If you can't respond, just avoid the question! That way you'll never be wrong.

So, I take that as "Well, you're right, but since I can't admit that, I'll just throw out some lame insult that makes no sense, but diverts the attention away from the fact that I'm wrong."

 

[Rolling_Stone]

All right! There ya go! If you can't respond, just avoid the question! That way you'll never be wrong.

So, I take that as "Well, you're right, but since I can't admit that, I'll just throw out some lame insult that makes no sense, but diverts the attention away from the fact that I'm wrong."

Sometimes an answer is redundant.

 

[Magic Man]

Sometimes an answer is redundant.

Still sidestepping, huh? Whatever helps you sleep at night.

 

[Sunstone]

...a self-professed non-religious person has nothing to say and no business setting the agenda in a religious forum.

Just so everyone knows, Rolling Stone is speaking for himself. It is in no way, shape or form the policy here on RF to exclude people from expressing their ideas based on whether they are religious or not. There are group-think forums on the net, but this is not one of them.

Thank you!