why does God exist?

[yirme]

for those who believe God does exist,
Why does God exist?

peace

 

[3.14]

to patch the holes of knowlege we have

 

[MEMNOCK]

for those who believe God does exist,
Why does God exist?

peace

It is a little complicated to explain unless you are familiar with different paths of thought. It exists in this time and place due to its own evolutionary transformation for the microcosm to the macrocosm. Since all living energy is part of God, We are all along for the cosmic ride so to speak.

 

[Willamena]

for those who believe God does exist,
Why does God exist?

peace

Because we do.

 

[science_is_my_god]

Because we do.

So our existence is dependent on a god? It is IMPOSSIBLE to have been brought into this world by other means than a god? Do you have evidence that backs up this statement?

 

[sandandfoam]

So our existence is dependent on a god? It is IMPOSSIBLE to have been brought into this world by other means than a god? Do you have evidence that backs up this statement?

You miss the point I think.

 

[Willamena]

So our existence is dependent on a god?

You asked why God exists, not why we do.

 

[Halcyon]

So our existence is dependent on a god? It is IMPOSSIBLE to have been brought into this world by other means than a god? Do you have evidence that backs up this statement?

Erm, you realise Patty's statement can be read as "God exists because we invented it" as much as it can be read as "God exists, and we are the proof"?

 

[Halcyon]

for those who believe God does exist,
Why does God exist?

peace

Good question. Which God are you talking about exactly, because they all have different reasons for existing?

 

[Willamena]

You miss the point I think.

I think so. Just to clarify (apart from what Halcyon reads it as) God, to us, is our individual ideas about what God is. The ideas about God are effectively what God is to each of us. God, as I believe in it, has a particular image or landscape supplied by my understanding of what God is; and "I" am "made" in similar image. I am a landscape supplied by my understanding of what of "I am."

 

[Halcyon]

I think so. Just to clarify (apart from what Halcyon reads it as) God, to us, is our individual ideas about what God is. The ideas about God are effectively what God is to each of us. God, as I believe in it, has a particular image or landscape supplied by my understanding of what God is; and "I" am "made" in similar image. I am a landscape supplied by my understanding of what of "I am."

So, would you say that God from the individual (and even perhaps the group) perspective, could be classed as an eidolon?

 

[Willamena]

So, would you say that God from the individual (and even perhaps the group) perspective, could be classed as an eidolon?

If I knew what an "eidolon" was, I could say that.

Okay, looked it up. Hard to say if I can agree with it, as I'm not sure I understand it.

It refers to it as "the subtle body used by the spirit to connect with the perceptions created by the brain." It sounds like a literalists' fantasy to me (taking "spirit" literally) (as well as "taking spirit," literally).

 

[Halcyon]

If I knew what an "eidolon" was, I could say that.

Okay, looked it up. Hard to say if I can agree with it, as I'm not sure I understand it.

It refers to it as "the subtle body used by the spirit to connect with the perceptions created by the brain." It sounds like a literalists' fantasy to me (taking "spirit" literally) (as well as "taking spirit," literally).

Ok, well there are several definitions, I was referring to an eidolon as "an image of an ideal" rather than the theosophical version.

 

[doppelganger]

Because there's a thing in the reality one experiences that bears the label "God"?

 

[doppelganger]

When did inanimate matter procure animation (life) Never- therefore- every conscious being was thus created by a conscious being wroughted in excellence of wisom and marvellous grace

That's a strange loop you have there, my friend.

 

[Halcyon]

That's a strange loop you have there, my friend.

Yeah, lol, consciousness begats consciousness. So was there ever a first consciousness, and if there was what begat (begate, begutted) it?

 

[Halcyon]

We exist - what about that which is not correct to exist- or existed- was and is-
that which is not in need of time even eternity or of space or of truth or possibilities which are all product of our human weakness-

What the deuce?

 

[Halcyon]

you see until you circumvent your own scientific mind- the question of "god" will always be a study in futility-

Heh, you should read some of my old posts. I was Gnostic for a long time...

"god" is not science nor is it a matter of Logics- it is TRUE and the Truth
that he exist I cannot say this for to say so would mean something existed before 'him" to say he does not exist i will not argue as that concurrs with the abov e statement
but for those who are wise THE Paradox makes the positive truth- HE EXIST- but it is he quality of this existance that i am unsure of as no human has reall "existed" so

Yeah I get it, God created existence so It Itself cannot exist. Doesnt make God conscious though.

 

[Halcyon]

we being conscious and aware means that consciousness exist- If this consciousness is a God or an expression of him is not for me to say-
What i will say however- is that there is unconscious material in the universe therefore - if this matter is in an evoulutionary stage then we are all undone-
I mean- we are just a moment in Unending Time
But if Time comes to and end
then there is one greater than Time and uncounsciousness- therefore he is Conscious

Do you realise that that is based on several unsubstantiable concepts? And are you happy with that?

 

[logician]

Can anyone show evidence of a greater consciousness, or of any conciousness besides our limited self on earth?