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Why does God hate Homosexuals and why did he create them?
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When you are 30 or 40 you won't have the energy...
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
Here is the truth:
1 Corinthians 6:9
Don't you know that evil people won't have a share in the blessings of God's kingdom? Don't fool yourselves! No one who is immoral or worships idols or is unfaithful in marriage or is a pervert or behaves like a homosexual
My God does not hate the homosexuals person, but there behavior.
Magic Man
Reaper of Conversation
I know I shouldn't, but...Then, why does your God hate their behavior?
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
you shouldn't what?
It goes against nature...read romans 1:18-35
let me guess, your next question is:
Why did he create them that way then? read 1:18-35, it is more of a result of People's refusal to follow God!
McBell
Admiral Obvious
Nope.
Wrong again.
Homosexuality is observed all throughout nature.
Fact is you do not know know why God declares homosexual acts an abomination because the Bible never reveals the why of it.
So at best, this false information is the construct of man.
you will need to explain how it is that the verses you cite apply to the discussion at hand.
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
the nature of human phisiology will say there are only two sexes. male and female.
studies indicate that homosexuality is a result of a "screw up between" x and y chromosomes.
read it first
McBell
Admiral Obvious
Who has said otherwise?
Not me.
LOL
This just furthers the point that it is natural.
Though I have yet to see a legitimate peer reviewed paper that makes any such claim.
Could you share your source please?
I have read it.
Twice, yet it does not seem to me to support his claims.
perhaps if I knew which version to read it from......
Mike182
Flaming Queer
right, so just as long as gays subject themselves to suppressive moral laws, so long as gays suppress the emotions God gave them, they are ok.
setting such a harsh limit on homosexuality, telling them to suppress their passion and love and lust for other men or women, which is perfectly natural, and then condemning them when they break that limitation is cruel and malicious. if god really "does not hate the homosexual, just their behavior", then God has set them up to fail, making God the biggest (insert expletive) in the universe.
Don't waste time arguing with a bigot, their logic is not driven by reason, but by suspect psychological motivations or complete ignorance, frequently the former in my experience.
Therefore reason will have little effect, may I suggest the application of a firm rubber mallet for the hard of hearing?
Therefore reason will have little effect, may I suggest the application of a firm rubber mallet for the hard of hearing?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Yes, I was referring to this thread.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Really? I'm fascinated. Can you cite these studies please?
Mike182
Flaming Queer
the amusing thing is, if that turns out to be true, it means gays have had no choice in the matter - they can't be blamed for being gay.
Gentoo
The Feisty Penguin
So where do the intersex and androgynous fit in with that model?
Indeed....sexuality and gender are not so simple!
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
This an excerpt from: Can a Homosexual Make it to Heaven? « Eliseo Soriano
There are decent and God-fearing homosexuals. Although, naturally, they have affection for men, but they practice self-control to obey Gods law!
(Titus 2:11-12) For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say No to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live selfcontrolled, upright and godly lives in this present age
Biblical doctrine states that homosexuals can/will make it to heaven, specially you have God's grace.
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
Who has said otherwise?
Not me.
you said homosexuality was natural
LOL
This just furthers the point that it is natural.
Though I have yet to see a legitimate peer reviewed paper that makes any such claim.
Could you share your source please?
screw up is slang for it deviated from normal, or something went wrong. at least thats how i meant it.
I have read it.
Twice, yet it does not seem to me to support his claims.
perhaps if I knew which version to read it from......
It says people lusts brought them to do the un natural...
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uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
Your right, they don't have any choice in the matter and no one should be blamed for being gay.
Mom's Genetics Could Produce Gay Sons | LiveScience
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
McBell
Admiral Obvious
Now you are making no sense.
homosexuals are either male or female.
Except the extremely few hermaphroditic exceptions.
Not sharing the source even after being flat out asked does not help your position any.screw up is slang for it deviated from normal, or something went wrong. at least thats how i meant it.
Yet no where in the Bible does it explain/declare/state that homosexuality is un-natural.
This is nothing more than you forcing your beliefs into the Bible.
uss_bigd
Well-Known Member
see post #65
see the previous post for auto and mike, you can click on it too, don't be shy
I think we were originally talking about the behavior, anyway it goes both way.
Romans 1:26-27
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
what do you have against me?