Well, if He sends them to Heaven because they would have been saved if they grew up (a possibility enunciated by you), I would not know how else to call it: a preemption from exercising their free will.
Well, if we assume that God has a morally sufficient reason for everything that he does, and his taking the life of a young child is within his morally sufficient reason, then the young child has fulfilled the purpose that God wanted him too.
I mean, suppose God used me to bring 2 people from this message board to him...and once that has happened, God calls me home...now if that is the case, who am I to argue with God?
Or better yet, I look at it like this...think about any particular deadly disease, like pancreatic cancer. I think to myself..what if I got diagnosed with PC? I would be terrified!!! But, suppose God revealed to me through divine revelation that he caused me to get pancreatic cancer because it is through this disease that two people will come to him, and they will only come to him if I die of this disease....
I can't speak for anyone else, but to me that would make my ailment all worth the while. The things that we go through now, every event that happens...the question of "why" may not be revealed until years down the line...or better yet..imagine a mother that lost her child for whatever reason...the mother dies, and if she is a believer, God will reveal to her why she lost her child, and not only that, she will be reunited with her child and their tenure together in paradise will exceed any tenure they had together on earth.
Thinking about it. If He already knows how they would exercise their free will (being omniscient) then, by symmetry, He should sent to Hell the ones who wouldn't be saved if they grew up.
What if every single child that dies before the age of accountability would have became a believer?
Cool. Then only future Christians/Saved are aborted or die of cancer or whatever other calamity.
Makes sense
. I think you should seriously consider my symmetric scenario in order to avoid further absurdities.
There is no absurdity in postulating that since God is omnipotent, he can orchestrate a world at which every scenario ultimately happens for the greater good even if finite beings, in our limited understanding, don't have the slightest clue as to how this can be possible.
Please note that I read reminders of my post-mortem doom as a sign that I am winning a debate.
I am just saying; According to the bible, children are saved. Point blank, period. You are asking why and how regarding them, when you need to be worried about your own eternal destination, since theirs is already in the bag.
I am just making your assumption (that all died children would be saved anyway if they grew old) more explicit. The absurdity just follows logically.
Or do you think that there is at least on child who died and wouldn't have become a Christian if she managed to get old enough?
I am just saying that is one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is, as I said before, children that aren't yet capable of distinguishing good acts from bad acts should not receive the same fate as those that CAN.
Well, yeah, I agree with jesus. You must have the mind of a little child in order to be ok with Him. I am not sure how that helps you.
Well if the objective is to have the mind of a little child, then obviously the child is in good standings with Jesus so therefore why are we having this discussion?
I never doubted that. That is why they have an edge, if they die soon enough. No time to sin, become Muslim or atheist, Buddhist, whatever. A free and risk free ticked to an eternity of bliss. Good for them.
God has a reason for everything he allows to happen. If a child dies, then there is a reason why God allowed it to happen. Now yeah, you can look at it as a "free pass" if you like, but if God knows that I will be part of his kingdom if I died as an adult, then it really doesn't matter whether he called me "home" as a child, or as an adult, now would it?
Incidentally, Jesus is supposed to be the only human to have lived a sinless life. Did aborted embryos commit sins? Or are they sinless as well?
You can't be held accountable if you don't know right from wrong, viole.
At the end of the day the motto "you should accept Jesus as your savior and Lord in order to earn the Kingdom" has a lot of exceptions, don't you think so?
The motto is "Jesus died on the cross for our sins, and by accepting him as Lord and Savior you inherit the kingdom of God. Children/aborted babies have yet to sin, but they are still covered by the grace of God.
