Why does my God allow children to die? Is he evil?

[JM2C]

Actually exactly as I said - the use of gnosis here, is "knowledge" - not "science," - obviously - as they are talking about doctrinal knowledge differences.

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You still don't get it, do you? knowledge-asv, and science-kjv = gnosis in Greek.
Why you persistently arguing about the word "science" when it has the same meaning as "knowledge" or "gnosis"?

I don’t know what to do with you anymore.

Can we debate on something else?

 

[ScuzManiac]

I never got this either.

If someone gets cancer and dies...

God had bigger and better plans for that person.

If someone gets cancer and beats it...

God was looking out for them.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

I never got this either.

If someone gets cancer and dies...

God had bigger and better plans for that person.

If someone gets cancer and beats it...

God was looking out for them.

I've never really understood it either.

If someone recovers from it: "Wow.. praise God for such a quick recovery!"
If they die quickly: "Well... at least they didn't suffer, thank God."
If they die slowly and painfully: *crickets chirping*

 

[JM2C]

I never got this either.

If someone gets cancer and dies...

God had bigger and better plans for that person.

If someone gets cancer and beats it...

God was looking out for them.

Either way God is with that person.
As a Christian death is a gift from God. Meaning no more sufferings, pain and all this junks here on earth. How beautiful is that?

 

[ScuzManiac]

Either way God is with that person.
As a Christian death is a gift from God. Meaning no more sufferings, pain and all this junks here on earth. How beautiful is that?

What kind of gift is it to leave the people that are suffering here then?

 

[idav]

Either way God is with that person.
As a Christian death is a gift from God. Meaning no more sufferings, pain and all this junks here on earth. How beautiful is that?

This almost sounds like an atheist would have more appreciation for life.

 

[JM2C]

What kind of gift is it to leave the people that are suffering here then?

Human are mortal meaning we have to die. A gift from God after death as a Christian is another life with God forever or immortal life. Once you are with God already your concerns here does not matter anymore.

 

[JM2C]

This almost sounds like an atheist would have more appreciation for life.

It’s not that I don’t appreciate life but as the apostle Paul have said in,

2Co 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

 

[ScuzManiac]

Human are mortal meaning we have to die. A gift from God after death as a Christian is another life with God forever or immortal life. Once you are with God already your concerns here does not matter anymore.

This kind of proves what I just said.

If you get cancer and die, God has bigger plans.

If you get cancer and live, God was looking out for you.

If you live, it's a gift from God.

If you die, it's a gift from God.

If you live a life of suffering, God is giving you a test.

If you are born into riches and luxury, God has blessed you.

No offense but to me, it sounds like a lot of "turning the head" and "accepting."

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

This kind of proves what I just said.

If you get cancer and die, God has bigger plans.

If you get cancer and live, God was looking out for you.

If you live, it's a gift from God.

If you die, it's a gift from God.

If you live a life of suffering, God is giving you a test.

If you are born into riches and luxury, God has blessed you.

No offense but to me, it sounds like a lot of "turning the head" and "accepting."

I've always wondered how God can somehow bless people, and yet also give them free will at the same time. For example, If you are "blessed" with wealth, how exactly did God "provide" you with that wealth? Did He control your mind to make you work harder? Did he control your boss' mind to convince him to give you a raise? Or could it actually be nothing more than simple cause and effect?

 

[Koldo]

I never got this either.

If someone gets cancer and dies...

God had bigger and better plans for that person.

If someone gets cancer and beats it...

God was looking out for them.

Oh, please. Don't expose the lack of falsifiability on their beliefs.

 

[CG Didymus]

This kind of proves what I just said.

If you get cancer and die, God has bigger plans.

If you get cancer and live, God was looking out for you.

If you live, it's a gift from God.

If you die, it's a gift from God.

If you live a life of suffering, God is giving you a test.

If you are born into riches and luxury, God has blessed you.

No offense but to me, it sounds like a lot of "turning the head" and "accepting."

Why does God punish and reward atheists and people from other religions? It's almost like it doesn't matter.

 

[ScuzManiac]

Why does God punish and reward atheists and people from other religions? It's almost like it doesn't matter.

That's only because it doesn't.

What happens, happens.

There's no God deciding what is going to happen to who.

If I decide to pull out a pistol and blow my head off and it DOES kill me...

Does that mean that God just had bigger and better plans for me?

Maybe if I survive it means I have a guardian angel.

 

[Josh97]

I've always wondered how God can somehow bless people, and yet also give them free will at the same time. For example, If you are "blessed" with wealth, how exactly did God "provide" you with that wealth? Did He control your mind to make you work harder? Did he control your boss' mind to convince him to give you a raise? Or could it actually be nothing more than simple cause and effect?

Free will is entirely different to blessings. When God endowed free will, he gave us the ability to determine our own lives. This opens the door to many possibilities in the future, whether we can succeed or not. When we worship, when we partake in any form of service or ritual - we solidify the relationship with God. This strength broadens our prospects of wealth; success, and these are dubbed as blessings, because they are amalgamation of both mans initiative and the relationship with God.

 

[ScuzManiac]

Free will is entirely different to blessings. When God endowed free will, he gave us the ability to determine our own lives. This opens the door to many possibilities in the future, whether we can succeed or not. When we worship, when we partake in any form of service or ritual - we solidify the relationship with God. This strength broadens our prospects of wealth; success, and these are dubbed as blessings, because they are amalgamation of both mans initiative and the relationship with God.

I thought wealth was looked down upon in The Bible so how can it be a blessing?

Matthew 6:24
“No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.


Matthew19:24
"And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

 

[McBell]

Either way God is with that person.
As a Christian death is a gift from God. Meaning no more sufferings, pain and all this junks here on earth. How beautiful is that?

Sounds extremely self serving.
Especially given the general anti attitude of Christians whe it comes to euthanasia...

Why is it considered "playing God" to remove someone from life support, but not considered "playing God" when artificially keeping someone alive?

 

[ScuzManiac]

Sounds extremely self serving.
Especially given the general anti attitude of Christians whe it comes to euthanasia...

Why is it considered "playing God" to remove someone from life support, but not considered "playing God" when artificially keeping someone alive?

Very good point.

It's playing God to take lives but not to save them.

It's pretty much the same thing if you ask me.

 

[1robin]

Oh, please. Don't expose the lack of falsifiability on their beliefs.

Falsifiability is not a requirement of any belief system. It is merely a criteria for science. One that science does not obey but does try to hold others worldviews to. The falsifiability of a thing has nothing whatever to do with a things existence. If you want to hold a group accountable to this criteria I would suggest you start with those who imposed it yet do not practice it.

 

[1robin]

Why does God punish and reward atheists and people from other religions? It's almost like it doesn't matter.

How in the world would you know if he had? The bible does not say that God directly helps or punishes atheists. It says it rains on the just and unjust alike and to not be swayed by the success of evil men nor the failure of good men. The bible posits an unjust world, that is exactly what we find. It does not leave us there as atheism would, but promises an ultimate reckoning and justice in the world to come. Your question is not really accurate or the right one to ask.

 

[1robin]

That's only because it doesn't.

What happens, happens.

There's no God deciding what is going to happen to who.

If I decide to pull out a pistol and blow my head off and it DOES kill me...

Does that mean that God just had bigger and better plans for me?

Maybe if I survive it means I have a guardian angel.

It means that God loved us enough to allow us freewill. If you chose evil he will allow your choice to be actualized. Love cannot exist without freewill.