Why does my God allow children to die? Is he evil?

[Triumphant_Loser]

I think you have a very big misconception of the word or the name “Christian”
You think Christians are more on politics than religion. Well, perhaps you should read more about the history of Christianity. True Christians are different from other semi-Christians or semi-hybrid Christians.

No True Scotsman fallacy. All Christians think their particular brand of Christianity is "true" Christianity, or else they wouldn't be practicing it.

 

[CG Didymus]

No True Scotsman fallacy. All Christians think their particular brand of Christianity is "true" Christianity, or else they wouldn't be practicing it.

I wonder what he thinks Christians are? Semi-hybrid Jews that believe totally different than normal Jews?

 

[edwardgledson]

No he is not evil, it is the universal low, every one will die.

 

[JM2C]

Your No True Scotsman is also nothing more than a big steaming pile of self serving crap.

I have to wonder if using a big steaming pile of self serving bull **** as your strawman is the best you got..?

Wow! Man, did I upset you again? I thought I was just answering to your post.

We could debate properly to exchange knowledge without using those words [bull ****], you know, but if we will argue on things we don‘t have any knowledge at all it will just breeds ignorance.

Sounds extremely self serving. Especially given the general anti attitude of Christians whe it comes to euthanasia...

Why is it considered "playing God" to remove someone from life support, but not considered "playing God" when artificially keeping someone alive?

And this was my answer and they are rightly related to your question.

Not really!

What I meant by “As a Christian death is a gift from God.” is the fear of death. Fear is an inhibiting and enslaving thing; and when people are gripped by the ultimate fear--the fear of death--they are in cruel bondage. Christ set us, Christians, free from the fear of death when he defeated satan on the cross.

Heb 2:14 Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood—Jesus also became flesh and blood by being born in human form. For only as a human being could he die, and only by dying could he break the power of the Devil, who had the power of death.
Heb 2:15 Only in this way could he deliver those who have lived all their lives as slaves to the fear of dying.

I think you have a very big misconception of the word or the name “Christian”
You think Christians are more on politics than religion. Well, perhaps you should read more about the history of Christianity. True Christians are different from other semi-Christians or semi-hybrid Christians.

 

[JM2C]

No True Scotsman fallacy. All Christians think their particular brand of Christianity is "true" Christianity, or else they wouldn't be practicing it.

Can you tell the difference between the Evangelical and the Catholics? Both of these are called Christians, but which one is the true one base on the bible?

 

[JM2C]

I wonder what he thinks Christians are? Semi-hybrid Jews that believe totally different than normal Jews?

This is what I was saying, you have to understand the difference. The word or the name “Christian” should not at all be affiliated with any other religion or belief. Christianity are not in any way under Judaism. Christianity and Judaism believe in one God, and that is, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, but they are not under Judaism. Christians do not follow the Law of Moses.

Ac 11:26 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

Let me ask you, who called them Christians in Antioch and why they “were called Christians“?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Can you tell the difference between the Evangelical and the Catholics? Both of these are called Christians, but which one is the true one base on the bible?

I'd consider both of them to be Christians, but Romans 14:1 suggests that the ones quarreling over disputable matters - as you're doing in this thread - may not be doing as well as they could be at being Christian.

 

[JM2C]

I'd consider both of them to be Christians, but Romans 14:1 suggests that the ones quarreling over disputable matters - as you're doing in this thread - may not be doing as well as they could be at being Christian.

I respect your opinion, but you should read more about the difference between the Evangelical and the Catholics.

Romans chapter 14 is about Gentiles or pagans who became Christians and Christian Jews.

There is no mention in Romans of idols or food offered to idols like the one in 1st Corithians.

The weaker brethren at Rome should probably be identified with the Jewish element in the church, those who had avoided certain foods because of the dietary laws of the OT.

The strong eats anything but the weak eats only according to their dietary laws of the O.T..

 

[JM2C]

If there is a Christian God, why did he allow him to slip through the cracks? Why didn't he send one of his people at the right time, at the right place, to show him how much this invisible God loves him? Is he evil and wanted it to happen? For the greater good of course.

God is not evil. Only evil breeds evil.

You should know the difference between the evilness of man and the goodness of God.

Since human enjoy on doing bad, than good, we human cannot face the consequences or the penalties of doing bad and therefore blame God for it instead or use God as the scapegoat for our errors. We can’t see the goodness of God because of our sins. We always blame God for every error we human make instead of the evilness of human itself.

Always looking for someone to blame.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Can you tell the difference between the Evangelical and the Catholics? Both of these are called Christians, but which one is the true one base on the bible?

The Bible can be manipulated (and often is) to fit whatever dogma you choose to believe. Catholics use certain parts of the Bible to justify their beliefs and practices, and Evangelical Protestants use certain parts of the Bible to justify their beliefs and practices. The problem is not "do they base their beliefs on what the Bible says?" Both of them obviously do. It all boils down to "What interpretation of what the Bible says, do they use?"

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

God is not evil. Only evil breeds evil.

The what is the source of evil? If evil only breeds evil, and God is the ultimate source of all things, then that would mean, by your own logic, that God is evil.

You should know the difference between the evilness of man and the goodness of God.

Why is it okay for God to be wrathful, even though wrath considered a "sin?" Why is it okay for God to be jealous and envious, even though those are "sins?" Why is it that God can murder, even though murder is a "sin." Does God not like playing by his own rules? Double standard much?

Since human enjoy on doing bad, than good, we human cannot face the consequences or the penalties of doing bad and therefore blame God for it instead or use God as the scapegoat for our errors. We can’t see the goodness of God because of our sins. We always blame God for every error we human make instead of the evilness of human itself.

What about natural disasters? Disease? Illness? These are not caused by human error.

Always looking for someone to blame.

What a heaping plate of delicious irony.

 

[Ingledsva]

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What I meant by “As a Christian death is a gift from God.” is the fear of death. Fear is an inhibiting and enslaving thing; and when people are gripped by the ultimate fear--the fear of death--they are in cruel bondage. Christ set us, Christians, free from the fear of death when he defeated satan on the cross.

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I am not a Christian, and I have no fear of death.


It is silly to fear death; we are all going to die.


Now, how I die, is a totally different matter. LOL! :yes:



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[JM2C]

What about natural disasters?

Have you heard of global warming?

Disease?

AIDS, VD, ???

Illness?

Poor health, High cholesterol, high blood, diabetes, mental illness?

These are not caused by human error.

Really? Think again!

 

[JM2C]

I am not a Christian, and I have no fear of death.


It is silly to fear death; we are all going to die.


Now, how I die, is a totally different matter. LOL! :yes:



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Yeah, sure I believe you. When death is knocking at your door you will understand what is the meaning of what you are saying.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Have you heard of global warming?

Are you implying that natural disasters did not exist before the industrial revolution? Did hurricanes, tornadoes, and earthquakes not exist 2,000 years ago? Try again.

AIDS, VD, ???

I suppose we're just going to ignore the fact that...
cancer= not caused by humans
Down's syndrome= not caused by humans
The Plague= not caused by humans
Smallpox= not caused by humans
Ebola virus= not caused by humans
Lyme Disease= not caused by humans
Malaria= not caused by humans

Try again.

Poor health, High cholesterol, high blood, diabetes, mental illness?

Type 1 Diabetes cannot be prevented.
Down's Syndrome cannot be prevented either

Try again.

Really? Think again!

Perhaps you might want to think again. I'm curious to know how you can apologetically explain how all of these things are our fault somehow. I'm sure you'll manage to find some way to manipulate the truth.

 

[Triumphant_Loser]

Yeah, sure I believe you. When death is knocking at your door you will understand what is the meaning of what you are saying.

All aboard the Christian empty-threat train! whooo-whoooooooo!!!!!

 

[Ingledsva]

am not a Christian, and I have no fear of death.


It is silly to fear death; we are all going to die.


Now, how I die, is a totally different matter. LOL!

Yeah, sure I believe you. When death is knocking at your door you will understand what is the meaning of what you are saying.

This is just BULL!


I have seen the worst of dying and deaths.


Dying children in my study travels.


I took care of my mother while she was in horrible pain, and bled out, over and over, before dying of Cancer.


What leads up to death can be horrific, - but the death is a blessing. An end to pain and suffering.


There is NO reason to fear death.



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[CG Didymus]

The what is the source of evil? If evil only breeds evil, and God is the ultimate source of all things, then that would mean, by your own logic, that God is evil.

No, no, the devil is evil. He is the enemy of God and his people. How can you say God is evil? How was he supposed to know that the devil would rebel? How did God know that by giving people freewill that they'd chose to do evil? That's crazy to think God would know that his creation would turn bad. Look how disappointed he was when he had to blow up Sodom and Gomorrah. And the sadness he must have felt when he had to flood the world to rid the Earth of all those horrible evil people... and animals, and insects, and plants. He had to, because evil does breed evil.

Only righteous Noah and his family, and a few animals, were allowed to live on and repopulate the Earth with good, God-fearing people. I don't know how the plants and insects survived, but they're not really evil... except maybe poison ivy, and maybe mosquitoes, and I guess flesh eating bacteria and things like that. But maybe the devil hid those things and reintroduced them? Yeah, that would explain it.

Hmmm? But people go bad again? Oh, yeah, duh, the mother %^$#ing devil dressed up in his snake outfit must have done it. Huh? I wonder? Instead of drowning all the people, why didn't he just destroy the devil? Is God stupid?

 

[McBell]

Wow! Man, did I upset you again? I thought I was just answering to your post.

We could debate properly to exchange knowledge without using those words [bull ****], you know, but if we will argue on things we don‘t have any knowledge at all it will just breeds ignorance.


And this was my answer and they are rightly related to your question.

Not really!

What I meant by “As a Christian death is a gift from God.” is the fear of death. Fear is an inhibiting and enslaving thing; and when people are gripped by the ultimate fear--the fear of death--they are in cruel bondage. Christ set us, Christians, free from the fear of death when he defeated satan on the cross.

Heb 2:14 Because God’s children are human beings—made of flesh and blood—Jesus also became flesh and blood by being born in human form. For only as a human being could he die, and only by dying could he break the power of the Devil, who had the power of death.
Heb 2:15 Only in this way could he deliver those who have lived all their lives as slaves to the fear of dying.

I think you have a very big misconception of the word or the name “Christian”
You think Christians are more on politics than religion. Well, perhaps you should read more about the history of Christianity. True Christians are different from other semi-Christians or semi-hybrid Christians.

Merely repeating the same self serving nonsense does not help your argument, nor does it clarify anything.

 

[JM2C]

The what is the source of evil? If evil only breeds evil, and God is the ultimate source of all things, then that would mean, by your own logic, that God is evil.

So now you agree that God is the source of all things.

God created the good first before it became evil that breeds nothing but evil.

Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

God was talking about Lucifer or the devil or Satan here.

Jn 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.